No ANL against BNP / Le Pen ?
tony | 28.04.2004 07:54
The anti Nazi League can been contacted by a number of people asking why we didn't organise a large protest against the Le Pen visit.
The ANL received information that the BNP were hoping for a large scale demonstration against the Le Pen visit to enable them to play the card of Democracy Under Threat. The ANL therefore decided to avoid all confrontation with the visit and encouraged others to stay away, this policy was proven to be right when known BNP members were seen among the protesters.
The BNP has shifted its tactics is recent years as could be seen by the adoption of suits, nice smiles etc. There is concern that protesters are being manipulated by the Nazis
The ANL received information that the BNP were hoping for a large scale demonstration against the Le Pen visit to enable them to play the card of Democracy Under Threat. The ANL therefore decided to avoid all confrontation with the visit and encouraged others to stay away, this policy was proven to be right when known BNP members were seen among the protesters.
The BNP has shifted its tactics is recent years as could be seen by the adoption of suits, nice smiles etc. There is concern that protesters are being manipulated by the Nazis
tony
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you're talking out of your arse pal
28.04.2004 09:25
Coverage of the protests has been excellent, they've encouraged anti-fascists and made Le Pen look bad in France. The BNP are furious. (Hence your posting perhaps?)
Unite Against Fascism:
http://www.uaf.org.uk
awake
No, that's not right
28.04.2004 16:42
Our knowledge of the BNP is probably much better than yours and we have excellent sources of information that the BNP were delighted with the coverage they got. There were those who are ANL members who, against the central commitees advice, attended the demo and is was one of them who saw known BNP members in the "protest" contingent.
The old confrontation tactics must be re-visited to fight the Nazis, the BNP includes clever, well connected people with media influence. They are seeking mainstream acceptance and in areas are achieving it.
Shouting and throwing rotton fruit is not the way to influence public opinion. Turning up in suits and ties with a smart, articulate spokesperson is !
tony
I disagree
28.04.2004 20:14
As I said, the media were inevitably going to cover the Le Pen visit. The protesters LITERALLY followed the press there, rather than the other way round. However instead of a largely passive media merely conveying the BNP 'message' through press conference soundbites, which is what may have happened, coverage was dedicated almost exclusively to the protests. We re-wrote the story.
I'd be interested in seeing what other people think on this matter (rational debate please, don't just dismiss anyone who disagrees as secretly being BNP)
A
Tonys intentions...
28.04.2004 20:29
The question is, what are 'tony's' motives?
A genuine desire to promote some kind of new anti-fascist strategy?
The rantings of a lone, disorentated nutter?
Some sort of fiendishly clever neo-nazi propaganda and misinformation plot?
Duh, I'm too much of a brain dead lefty to figure this one out.
Bazza
Bazza is right, 'tony' is disinfo and nothing to do with ANL
29.04.2004 10:33
The anti-Le Pen protests were a triumph. Unite Against Fascism think so, the Anti Nazi League think so, and as Bazza says the BNP are gutted we turned the story on them.
Anti Nazi League:
http://www.anl.org.uk
Unite Against Fascism:
http://www.uaf.org.uk
awake
Who are you ?
29.04.2004 14:45
tonyB@anl.org.uk for confirmation
The League has been concerned for some time about people speaking in its name this seems to be yet another instance.
tony
In addition
29.04.2004 15:02
I'd like to see some evidence if you claim the BNP are delighted with the way it went, and if it's just based on tip-offs then who's to say YOU aren't being manipulated
A
ANL/Le Pen
29.04.2004 16:57
For the record, ANL activists working within the Unite Against Fascism coalition played a big part in mobilising over 1,000 in Brum and 300 at 2 days' notice in Manchester. Oh, and I can't remember anyone referring to us as 'The League'!
Lee, Anti Nazi League
e-mail: anl@anl.org.uk
Homepage: http://ww.anl.org.uk
That explains it
29.04.2004 18:44
tony
e-mail: tonyB@anl.org.uk