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Homo versus Muslim in Amsterdam

l | 24.04.2004 13:31


Double standards about killing immigrants.


This afternoon the Netherlands national gay/lesbian organisation COC organised a demonstration at the Homo Monument in Amsterdam to protest against an Islamic call to kill homo's. (Everyone in the Netherlands, from homophobes to homos themselves, uses this word).

The protest was aimed at the Al-Tahweed mosque in Amsterdam, because of a text in a book they sell, urging Muslims to throw homo's off the roof of buldings. In fact the book, Minhaj al Muslim, has been widely available for decades, in several languages. Yesterday, premier Balkenende also condemned it.

Why the book was discovered by the media only yesterday, is a mystery. That happened to be the day the cabinet announced new hard-line immigration policies, and a ban on new Islamic schools.

But in any case there are clear double standards here. Every day Dutch-language forums and weblogs spread racist material, including explicit calls to kill all immigrants, or all members of specific ethnic groups. They are illegal, of course, but no-one is ever prosecuted. The COC has never protested or demonstrated against these, and the premier never condemned them.

So it's very hard to sympathise with people who only protest, when they themselves are targeted - especially when the whole thing smells of spin.


l

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al fatiha

24.04.2004 16:57

Shhh... don't mention religious bigotry... especially if it's *that* kind... it is forbidden to speak of such things...

Seriously, it's about time political activists started treating homophobes of any religion the same way they treat Christian homophobes - what's the matter, still paralysed by the patronising, orientalist that racists/homophobes/thugs/bigots deserve to get away with it if they happen to be Muslim too?

Imagine the fun these folk have:
 http://www.al-fatiha.net/

markthemonkeyboy


exactly

24.04.2004 22:12

People would take the left more seriously if it actually kept some principles and ideals, instead of always making excuses. Things like homophobia, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, etc should always be condemned and attacked regardless of who the perpetrators are.

jk


NO MYSTERY

25.04.2004 10:22


Please put links to your ^story^, or we dont know what you are trying to stir up trouble about!

According to this report, it is not a ^mystery^ how the book came to light now.

^The 'Way of the Muslim', an interpretation of writings by a 14th century Islamic scholar, written in the 1960s and translated into Dutch a year ago, is being sold from the library of the Al-Tahweed mosque. An Amsterdam schoolteacher picked up a copy of the book some weeks ago and consequently alerted some members of the GroenLinks political party to its contents. Members of Parliament for GroenLinks then raised the issue of the book, which encourages female circumcision and the stoning of homosexuals, in the media.
^

 http://www.theamsterdamtimes.nl/

un


Where is the anti-racism?

25.04.2004 13:11


It seems a bit too convenient - the book is discovered, just in time to be in the morning papers on the day the cabinet announces new immigration laws.

But even if there is no spin, the question remains: why is is wrong to incite murder of gays, if incitement to kill immigrants is acceptable? Why were the demonstrators enraged by one thing and not by the other?

l


Christian call to kill gays

25.04.2004 13:29


Quoted in the Dutch media several times, in response to the demonstration, the Book of Leviticus Chapter 20, Verse 13. In English...

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

 http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=LEV+20&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on

So why didn't they demonstrate against the sale of the Bible?

l


no excuse for bigotry

25.04.2004 17:50

'l' - why you're trying to misinform on this issue is a mystery, but can we all accept that 1) the issue of Christian hostility to homosexuality is confronted openly and oftenly (although the conflict remains) whereas Islamic hostility is confronted quietly and very rarely 2) there are no internationally prominent gay Islamic clerics I'm aware of (please correct me if I'm mistaken), whereas there are a small but growing number internationally prominent openly gay Christian clerics.

The point - despite your attempt to muddy the waters - remains this: isn't it a patronising, orientalist view to metaphorically pat someone on the head for bigotry when you would rightly confront someone of a different religion? Stop obfuscating and start addressing the issue - belonging to a particular religion isn't a licence to hate gays. Let's see homophobes and racists confronted irrespective of religion.

markthemonkeyboy