Along with Chris Eubank - too incredible for words - I would also like to question the 'support' of New Labour whore, Ken Livingstone, who apart from slithering back into bed with the Big Liar himself has done much to scupper the efforts of the anti-war, anti-globalisation, anti-racist campaigners to offer an alternative to the newly defined right/right/shite political spectrum.

Also, what's with David Shayler? Can't help thinking that somebody who still spouts the 'official' line on the Lockerbie bombing and the assassination of W.P.C. Yvonne Fletcher, i.e. that Libya was responsible, despite the fact that ALL evidence against Libya in both cases has been discredited. I find the sight of anti-war campaigners queuing to give him their contact details quite disturbing.

I appreciate that a greater appeal is neccessary in order to further the causes of peace and justice but are we so desperate that we must enlist the services of D-list celebrities who crave public attention and exhibit dubious opinions (Tony Blair is one of the greatest politicians in the world but...)? And a possible Trojan horse.

Who should be 'our spokesman'. The SWP executive who jump on every protest bandwaggon to push their ridculous authoritarian bullshit?! Should you decide? who do you think you are? I thought the SPECTACLE was trite and and self deceiving. Very depressing.

Frivilous Marxian Industry Consumerism. - hours of megaphone t-shirt selling does not stop wars / occupations the excesses of corporate capitalism. Marxist State capitalism and its executive excesses and corporate capitalism draw the same types of power hungry, greedy egotists - Politicians, academic bullshitters, businesspeople and self serving celebrities and people who should really get out more ( or actually research what the fuck they are talking about ).

Who needs a ( usually self-appointed middle class )Spokesman. What ‘movement’?Who nees a stage except for professional overpaid self promoters inc celebrities and politicians. Who needs to spend all this money to protest? Only a hierarchy with another agenda. We all know those murdering arseholes Leon Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin etc. Why carry on denying their power hungry totalitarian methods and practices like the extreme right wing historial revisionists.It really is pathetic.
Organising a walk from A to B does not take that much ie to walk from a to b liasing with the agents of the state who protect the warmongerer,s the arms trade and the oil trade, the supermarkets and fast food industry. Monney's changing hands. Politcos chase power.Get real.

The STWC own Trafalgar Square do they/ How IMPORTANT they must be! How effective. Getting the cops for unlicenced stalls. Fuck off you SWP facists.
Social change is not through your BRAND of predigested protest.
I'm sure Lindsey German and the USUAL SUSPECTS need big stages and big PAs. Just like Eubank.
Destroying Shell, BP, Haliburton etc and executing their executives would be far more effective.

Tell you what - while we're forming part of a worldwide movement against war and imperialism, you lot can all sit at home masturbating about the day you "execute" oil executives.

I don't have much time for SWP, Eubank or Ken Livingstone, but if anyone wants to speak out against the war they can, without having oto clear it with deluded holier-than-thou purists like your useless selves.

Fight War!
Fight Sectarianism!

In Chris Eubank's defence, whatever his views on other issues, he is one of the few celebrities who turned up on February 15 who has stuck with the movement. Turning up on the big demonstrations when being anti-war was fashionable is certainly self-promotion but to carry on demonstrating now is quite principled. I doubt whether someone like Kylie Minogue who showed her face on Feb 15 is still going on demo's!

Chris Eubank has also taken part in direct action against the occupation of Iraq. You may remember a few months ago when he was arrested after he tried to blockade downing street with his truck in a one man protest against what he rightly saw as the criminal occupation of Iraq - few other celebrities have stuck their neck out.

Chris Eubank is like many people who were not left wing who opposed the war but have been radicalised (to varying extents) by the war.

Rather than only letting people with established leftwing credential speak we should be encouraging new people who come into the movement.

I agree with Roundglasses. If people (including celebrities) are against war then that should be encouraged. I can see if people are against McDonalds then they might be against their any involvement with the anti-war protests by anyone helping to promote them, although it's not an issue I feel too strongly about at the moment. I would have preferred Chris Eubank not to be supporting Blair however. Maybe a better approach would be to say that he should continue to be against the war, but to stop supporting Blair and explain why. I don't know if there is any way to contact him.

The comment someone else made about executing oil executives was just stupid. That wouldn't be a peaceful & non-violent course of action and obviously wouldn't help the credibility of the anti-war movement.

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Hey, sTOP THE wANC, calm down tiger! As your post directly follows mine and your venom seems to be travelling in my direction, I think it would be a fair inference that you think I am an SWP supporter if not member. Well, let's get this straight, I have absolutely no time for the SWP. I have seen too many SWP hijacks/sabotages to give them any credence. Furthermore, I think that they have a disturbing Jehovah's Witness effect when it comes to political enlightenment. I don't exist on the left-light spectrum. Politicking between left and right is a means by which the real powerbrokers maintain sovereignty over us all.

Incidentally, former ANL frontman Peter Hain says that, 'Democracy needs strong political parties'. Certainly, if you want to end up where we are now with a virtual US system of 'democracy' with two indistinguishable parties who share the same sponsors and provide board members for the same companies. Who verbally cat-fight each other whilst privately share a laugh and a drink. Whilst their supporters are whipped up in a frenzy. Democracy? It's a joke. Democracy US style is the biggest joke of all. And they have their armed forces killing and risking their own lives to export this corruption. For in the wake of occupation and 'democracy' will come American values.

Is it just a coincidence that Bush's so called 'axis of evil' are the only states which do not currently have an 'account' at the World Bank?

To the point that the named individuals presence was questionable. It is simply a matter of hypocrisy. It is more that a slight inconsistency that Chris Eubank is in the pay of McDonalds and it isn't a slight coincidence that McDonalds are symptomatic of globalisation, itself a key motive for war.

Ken Livigstone has proved himself to be a man of straw. His readmission to the Labour Party was a simple move to regain Labour power in London. His willingness to rejoin the murderous regime in Westminster is a clear indication of his blind ambition. His legal move to trademark the name 'Respect' to prevent the anti-war movement (sorry if your dictionary has had that page torn out in a rage, sTOP THE wANC) from rallying behind it just shows how committed he really is.

Let's not hear any 'we've rid the world of a brutal dictator' crap. Saddam Hussein was a CIA asset - end of story. The US and UK armed both Iran and Iraq during their bloodbath of a war - where are the morals here? The UK sold the gas that killed the Kurds in Halabja. There were weapons of mass destruction pouring out of this country faster than they could be produced. Somebody made them, somebody packed them, somebody drove them. Somebody made a lot of money. People who tried to blow the whistle ended up dead.

The world is corrupt, people suffer and die so that you and I can have cheap consumer goods, the Special Branch infiltrate anything that might be effective, governments (or those who control them) are quite willing to sacrifice their own people (in whatever way!) to further their own agenda. Propaganda masquerades as news. Entertainment is a substitute for living and nobody outside these four walls gives a shit so long as they get their 30 minutes on the sunbed. But don't give me any bollocks about freedom and democracy!

Ritchie, could I have Eubank's full statement please, and the source from which you quoted him?

Obviously you weren't at the demonstration (why not?!!).
I was there, I can't remember the exact words of Chris Eubank, but he something to the effect that he thought Tony Blair was one of the greatest politicians of the world but disagreed with him on the issue of the war. I don't think Chris Eubank should be criticised too much - any celebrity is taking a risk by making such comments. It might be better to persuade them to criticise more often than to do something that is likely to put them off criticising in future. If you want to criticise someone then it should be either TONY B-L-I-E-D and all the MP's that voted in favour of the immoral W-A-R or George W B-U-S-T-E-D.
As to Ken 'Livid-stoned', I joined in with the applause for all the other speakers. When it came for someone on stage to read out the statement from Ken (obviously too busy to attend!) I didn't join in. He is obviously happy to be a 'whore' for Neo Labor, otherwise why would he rejoin with them?