erm, isn't Werkers Power just a marxist electricty company providing cheap energy for the proletariat?

The Sheffield Social Forum will not be sponsored by any government or corporation. It will not be run by any political party, dominated by any ideology, distracted by any compromise with injustice or discrimination. It will not solve your problems for you, take any actions on your behalf or tell you what to think or do.

The Sheffield Social Forum will not be televised.

The Sheffield Social Forum will put you in the driver's seat

Good news but it is rather disappointing to think that your initiative is motivated more because of hostility towards SWP rather than genioune interest to come together in a social forum. Why this obsession with SWP? Are they worse than Labour, Tories or Lib Dems? I would rather see a "We don't an education from Labour or the Tory media" song. A bystander would almost think that everything that is wrong with the society it is because of the SWP and not the capitalist idealogy. You might say " we do not want an ideoloqy" but the capitalist idealogy it is everyone. It is the one we live not only as soon we step out of our homes, it exists even inside our homes, as even our relationships are determined mostly by economic factors.

Andy

social forums are a space. they cannot be owned politically by any one individual, party or group. they are essentially a networking tool. it may be that soon, social forums will start appearing (a co-incidence not unconnected with the esf being largely organised by and in the manner of the swp - and i know there are others involved - but, nevertheless, the organisational structure is largely top down, not bottom up etc. etc). So, an obvious tactic would be the sudden creation of "local" "social forums" which can then be seen as the real thing...

its just a thought., not meaning sheffield social forum at all

i think its brilliant (speaking as myself, not as manc social forum) and good luck with what you're doing.

Yeah, the SWP and others do get a bad rap from non-alligned activists but, more than all this Labour Government/ Tory biased Media being the enemy, what you're saying is it's the state we need to be fighting (the government merely administrates the state on behalf of Murdoch and the rest...)

i've always seen the SWP, like the bnp, as the state in waiting (or at least they'd both love to be in this position)

Militant Hippy remembers: The 1970s, man, and that the best Pink Floyd LP was Animals which reminds me of the flying pig (no, not a police helicopter but an inflatable one) which was used to promote the album. It was anchored to Battersea power station, however, the rope snapped and their was a flying pig over Battersea for two days. Poor thing had to be shot down in the end to which their was great dismay from the band as it ruined their planned acid-trip!

Roger Walters was heard to say: "I've always had problems with pigs - in uniform or in pink".

Militant Hippy has always had a problem with Trotskyists - whether with Ice-Pick in head or selling paper on a saturday!!