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France + Germany to ban headscarves, skullcaps + crosses?

kurious | 11.12.2003 17:26

Forgive report from the BBC, but this is insane! Both in France and Germany, pupils and teachers may be banned from wearing religious symbols in school. What happened to freedom of worship? Have we forgotten the lessons of our own history?

French headscarf ban recommended

Muslim girls in France could be barred from wearing headscarves in schools after an expert commission recommended a ban on "conspicuous" religious signs.

The official commission headed by former minister Bernard Stasi has released its findings on issues relating to religion and the state.

French President Jacques Chirac will announce next week whether he supports the commission's recommendation.

The ban would also include the Jewish skull-cap and large Christian crosses.

Discreet displays
Mr Stasi consulted a wide cross-section of public opinion, including teachers, religious leaders, sociologists and politicians before handing in the report to the president on Thursday.

Although the report was into the wider question of French secularism, debate on the issue has focused on the wearing of Islamic headscarves in schools.

The commission's recommendations would outlaw the Jewish kippa, large Christian crosses and the Islamic headscarf, which would be considered overt religious symbols.

"Discreet" medallions and pendants which merely confirm the person's religious faith would be allowed.

"Muslims must understand that secularism is a chance for Islam," Mr Stasi told a news conference on Thursday.

"Secularism is the separation of church and state, but it is also the respect of differences."

The commission's proposed law was intended so people of all religions could "live together in public places", he said.

Mr Stasi stressed that the commission's work did not target France's Muslim community but was aimed at giving all religions a more equal footing.

Public holidays
The report also recommends that Yom Kippur - the Jewish Day of Atonement - and Muslim Eid al-Kabir festival be celebrated in state schools.

French public life has a strong secular tradition which has existed since the revolution, but the commission has now recommended that the plan be enshrined in law.

Mr Chirac, who is expected to address the nation next week with his own conclusions, has hinted that he could back a formal ban.

Last week he said France felt "in a certain way under attack as result of the display of ostentatious religious signs, which is totally contrary to its secular tradition".

He added: "We cannot accept ostentatious signs of religious proselytism, whatever the religion."

The issue has led to a number of celebrated cases where girls have been suspended or expelled for wearing headscarves to school.

Other schools do not act against pupils who come to class wearing headscarves.

Integration
France has the largest Muslim population in the European Union, with around five million people.

The BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Paris says the Islamic headscarf has become the focal point of an agonised national debate in France.

She said it reflects many of the nation's unspoken fears about its failure to fully integrate its Muslim immigrants or to give them a purely French cultural identity.

France's chief rabbi, Joseph Sitruk, has joined Christian churches in arguing against a ban.

"What an aberration it is to want to muzzle religion in the name of secularism," he said in a newspaper interview.

Some Muslims are also opposed to the wearing of headscarves, while others believe the debate has more to do with French concern over its growing Muslim population.

Two German states have begun moves to ban state teachers wearing headscarves in schools.

This follows a recent federal Constitutional Court ruling that a state could not ban a female Muslim teacher from wearing a headscarf because there was no law against it.

But the court said German states could ban headscarves in schools if they passed new laws.

kurious

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Headline wrong.

11.12.2003 23:03

Your headline is wrong.
Germany will not ban scullcups and crosses.
Maybe - it is discussed or on the way - some parts of Germany will ban headscarves for teachers - not more or less.

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How big is a big cross?

11.12.2003 23:44

Why aren't all crosses going to be banned?
In the interest of fairness they should allow miniature headscarves and skull caps!

oi!


Belief systems

12.12.2003 00:40

There needs to be a new religion for a new age and a new order

I just attended a Christmas performance and my kid's school and the theme was significantly pagan = all the elementals - trees, wind,stars, snow and so on, with a little bit of nativity thrown in at the end - nothing wrong with that- I agree

However we have to consider who's in control and what little they give out to see how the upcoming generation will be controlled

All individual brainwashing religious beliefs have to be supplanted by the Big One eventually


Subject: UN, Lucis Trust and the Bavarian Illuminati NWO


TOP Members

Though I was aware of the true nature of the Theosophical Society and Ascended Masters movement and of the corruption of many world leaders of politics, commerce and industry; I was not aware until now of its presence within the United Nations.

Yet upon inspection I note:

United Nations
=
United is Saton

Suddennly the Grand Deception becomes seen and all players in the theatre of lies disrobed..

The Tora Or Project herewith ceases all association with the United Nations and thereby the Findhorn Foundation and Findhorn Sacred Journeys and advises any who formed an affiliate partnership with Findhorn Sacred Journeys to cancel such forthwith.

The United Nations has proven itself to be a vehicle of collaborated deceit, all feigned humanitarian work and conflict with the US Coalition nothing more than a stage show to endorse public approval to be established as the One World Government of the New World Order.

As is written in Revelation and Ezekial, the White Rider whose name is Faithful and True shall do battle with the Beast and it's Armies (George Bush and the Coalition) and the Kings of the Nations (the United Nations) and by the Power of the Holy Word and the Sharp-Tongued Sword shall conquer them to restore the Kingdom of God on Earth that shall be known as "Yahweh Shammah".

In so saying, I do not refer to a battle of guns, bombs, & missiles.

I refer to a battle waged by the Natural Powers of the Eternal Mother-Father God YHWH (Allah/Taoiwa/Dao/Reiki) and by Sharp Words of Truth to dispel the deceitful lies and hypocrisy.

And in as much the battle is both an internal process of self-redemption and an external process of planetary redemption; for we all have our Cross to carry.

I wish to remind all TOP Members to no longer use the deceptive phrase "Namaste" (literally meaning "to submit oneself" from the Sanskrit roots "nama" and "te" and decrypted to read "Me/We Satan") and to disassociate from any and all New Age modalities connected with the Theosophical Society and Ascended Masters movement of Helena Blavatsky and Alice Bailey (including Shamballah MD, the fraudulently and misconceptually named Melchizedek Method and Azurite Melchizedek Cloister Emerald Order, the Ashtar Command, the Galactic Federation, A Course in Miracles {ACM=VCM=Vau Samekh Mem=666}, Vibrant Celestial Meditation and Vibrant Creative Management {again VCM} by the "World Spiritual Foundation" of Kirpal Singh Jigal among a long list of other deceitful masks of the Bavarian Illuminati and Fallen Hierarchy of Satan Kumara and the Luciferian Rebellion), many of whom have attempted to corrupt the integrity, energy and purpose of Reiki.

Rather than to use that deceptive phrase, please implement the Holy phrase:

Yahweh Shalom Shammah
or
Yahweh Shammah
or
Yahweh Allah Shalom Shammah

... that has the literal meaning of "The Peace of God is There" (i.e. within the being one is greeting, thereby acknowledging the presence of God within).

Peace

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Lucis (Lucifer) Trust, Alice Bailey, World Goodwill and the False Light of the World
Before reading this article in full, I wish to suggest you also read the following:


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After reading the full text of Operation Northwoods located in the National Security Archive of the George Washington University it becomes bleedingly obvious who is directly and deliberately responsible for the 911 WTC Attack and who killed almost 3000 US civilians before proceeding to kill over 7000 civilians in Iraq.

 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430

Especially considering that the Bush Family and Bin Laden Family were, at the time, financial partners in the Carlyle Group, a Venture Capital firm with major assets in oil and weapons production.

Not to mention the fact that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA Operative for over 20 years (even during the CIA Directorship of George Bush Senior) and that Saddam Hussein was brought to power and for over thirty years directed and equipped by the CIA, George Bush Senior and Donald Rumsfeld themself.

George Bush - The Unauthorised Biography

In any war the number of armed fatalities ought be greater than the number of unarmed fatalities, else it is not a war but a cruel, merciless and heartless massacre.

What else would you call distributing outlawed cluster bomb packets disguised as food parcels for children and using depleted uranium enriched heads in bullets and missiles but a cruel, merciless and heartless massacre.

Somewhat like the attributes of Moloch, the Stone Owl Canaanite Deity of Child Sacrifice worshipped by many leading political, commercial, media and industrial professionals during the Cremation of Care Ritual at the annual Bohemian Grove gathering in Sonoma County, California (protected by the National Security Act). [I, Cheri, have a video by Alex Jones where he sneaked into and videotaped this disgusting ritual.]



Yet it is a massacre of over 80% of the world civilian population that is the aim of the New World Order according to the dictate of the infamous Rockefellers. Welcome to the Brave New World, courtesy of the Neo-Nazi Fourth Reich via various manifestations of the Bavarian Illuminati and orchestrated by the sycophants of the Bohemian Grove and Order of Skull and Bones of which GWB2 is a member.


"appears as a Lamb, yet has horns and speaks like a dragon"
Revelation 12

Did I forget to mention that GWB2's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was the leading finacier in partnership with Fritz Thyssen, funding Adolph Hitler and the Nazi War Machine?

President Franklin Roosevelt's Alien Property Custodian, Leo T. Crowley, signed Vesting Order Number 248 seizing the property of Prescott Bush under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

Or that Prescott Bush personally profited $1.5 milliion USD in the 1940s from Auschwitz Slave Labour Camp; money that was subsequently diverted into a trust fund that financed the political careers of George W. Bush I and George W. Bush II?



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Alice Ann Bailey, a leading disciple of the Russian theosophist Madame Helena Blavatsky, formed the Lucifer Trust in 1920. 1922 saw the organization's name changed to Lucis Trust, though the advancement of the Luciferian beliefs remained true. Beliefs that in Blavatsky's words,"oppose the materialism of science and every dogmatic theology, especially the Christian, which the Chiefs of the Society regard as particularly pernicious."

Lucis Trust promulgates the work of an "Ascended Master" who was working 'through' Alice Bailey for some 30 years. The Lucis Trust Publishing Company and their many fronts and organizations worship an "Externalized Hierarchy" of "Ascended Masters," who carry out the work of a Luciferian "master plan" for the establishment of a permanent "Age of Aquarius" ruled by one "Sanat Kumara" (Satan), the "Lord of the World".

This is no ordinary third rate occult organisation. Lucis Trust is a powerful institution that enjoys "Consultative Status" with the United Nations ( = United is Saton), which permits it to have a close working relationship with the U.N., including a seat on the weekly sessions, but most importantly influence with powerful business and national leaders throughout the world.

The Lucis Trust is as much a political organization as an occult religious one. Aggressively promoting a globalist ideology, Lucis Trust founded its World Goodwill, which is closely connected to international elitist circles. Authors and participants in its various conferences read like a Who's Who of globalist insiders. Featured on its website, for example, is the Universal Declaration of Human Responsibilities, put forth in April 1998 as a companion document to the notorious UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights. Signatories to the World Goodwill document: Helmut Schmidt, former Chancellor of West Germany; Malcom Fraser, former Australian Prime Minister; Shimon Perez; Robert McNamara; Paul Volcke; Jimmy Carter and Pierre Trudeau among others.

Lucis Trust is run through an international board of trustees whose membership is said to have included: John D. Rockefeller; Norman Cousins; Robert S. McNamara; Thomas Watson, Jr. (IBM, former U.S. Ambassador to Moscow); Henry Clauson Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, Southern District Scottish Rite and Henry Kissinger. This would then tie Bailey's influential occult organization into the international conspiracy of elitists, including the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderbergs, and the Trilateral Commission.

I've been able to confirm some of these connections through Lucis Trust's involvement in the Windsor International Bank and Trust Company, where on its site, the Windsor Bank plainly states that its "a Member of, Advisor to, Affiliate of, Friend of, Benefactor of, or Contributor to, the following Organizations, to name several:"

International Fund For Development
The Hall Family Foundation
The Rockefeller Foundation
WHO/Habitat For Humanity
The Lucis Trust (NGO); United Nations
National Resources Defense Council
Capital Missions Company
Investors Circle
The Coca-Cola Foundation
Fellowship For International Education
International Monetary Agency
International Center For Educational Advancement
Christian Children's Fund (Worldwide)
BAMPAC (Black America's Political Action)
Fellowship For Reconciliation
National Institute For the Advancement Of Science
International Association For Environmental Cooperation
World Wildlife Federation
Council On Foreign Relations (CFR)
CARICOM
NAFTA
MERCOSOR
Council Of Emerging Nations
Freedom Communications, Inc.
The European Institute (Foreign Affairs Magazine)
United Nations Association of The USA
The NAACP (National Association of Colored People)
The Royal Heritage Charitable Relief Fund




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IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT: After I posted this discovery, the Windsor Bank promptly changed their page and deleted all traces of the connections which I exposed above. As of this writing they no longer have a web presence. I've been able to salvage a copy – thanks to Googles Cache — of the page as it appeared when I wrote this Lucis Trust expose: Here is the original.



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One disturbing aspect is the blatant targeting of children. Lucis Trust directs an activity called Triangles in Education, which is partnered with groups that "make some contribution to the task of laying the foundations for the new education." This, according to Bailey, is part of the overall work of the New Group of World Servers, "a band of obedient workers and servers of the WORD." The word being the teachings of her channeled Master Djwhal Khul, through her voluminous occult works. The word, has also been heeded by the likes of Robert Muller — former assistant Secretary General of the United Nations and winner of the UNESCO Prize for Peace Education in 1989 for his World Core Curriculum. He said, "The underlying philosophy upon which The Robert Muller School is based will be found in the teaching set forth in the books of Alice A. Bailey by the Tibetan teacher, Djwhal Khul."

The Overshadowing
Alice Bailey was born on June 16th, 1880, in the city of Manchester, England. She was raised in an orthodox christian family which she would say later, made her very unhappy and a bad tempered little girl. "Life was not worth living," she said, and the feeling of worthlessness, and a certain amount of curiosity about life and death led her to attempt suicide three times before she was even fifteen.

At the age of fifteen her first mystical encounter occurred while her family had gone to church. While she was in a room reading, a man wearing a turban on his head suddenly entered her room. Startled, and not being able to say a word —an obvious out of place character in 19th century Manchester — this stranger spoke to her: "He told me there was some work that it was planned that I could do in the world but that it would entail changing my desposition considerably; I would have to give up being such an unpleasant little girl and must try to get some measure of self-control. My future usefulness to Him and to the world was dependant on how I handled myself and the changes I could manage to make. He said that if I could achieve real self-control I could then be trusted and that I would travel all over the world and visit many countries, "doing your Master's work all the time" ... He added that He would be in touch with me at intervals of seven years apart."
From The Unfinished Autobiography, by Alice Bailey, 1951, Lucis Trust

This was to be Alice Bailey's first contact with her Master Koot Humi. These contacts with "Secret Chiefs"; "Familiar Spirits"; "Angels"; and "Ascended Masters" is a common theme in the annals of history and has been the origin of many religious, prophetic and occult movements throughout the centuries. Zoroaster, Mohammed, John Dee, Francis Bacon, Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, Joseph Smith, Edgar Cayce and Benjamin Creme immediately come to mind.

In 1917, after the breakup of her first marriage she moved to the United States, where she was introduced to the teachings of Theosophy. It was during this period that she had met, and married, her husband Foster Bailey (33rd degree Scottish Rite Freemason). She turned out to be a good pupil, Bailey soon rose through the ranks and became the editor of the American Theosophists' newspaper.

For the last 125 years, New Age leaders worldwide have followed the false light of Theosophy; they now whisper sweet lies into the itching ears of the powerful — politicians, media moguls, UN officials, foundation grant makers, and Anglican bishops. As the West moves into a post-Christian era, the influence of the New Age movement grows.


A Comprehensive Expose of The New Age Movement, by Penn Lee


The encounter with her fated second "Master" — and soon to be writing partner for an international esoteric movement — occurred in 1919, while having a quiet time on a hill close to her house. She heard a note of music sounding everywhere which was followed by a voice (Djwhal Khul) that asked her if she was willing to write some books. Having refused, saying that she wouldn't engage in any psychic practices, the voice gave her three weeks to reconsider. Alice completely forgot about the subject when the voice made its appearance as scheduled. Agreeing to give it a try for a few weeks the first chapters of Initiation, Human and Solar were written. After about a month, Alice got scared; refusing to do anymore work the Master Djwhal Khul told her to discuss it with her Master Koot Humi. Koot Humi confessed that it was, in fact, him that told DK to contact her and he gave Alice permission to proceed — after giving Mrs. Bailey the proper technique for enhanced telepathic communication.

Between 1919 and 1949 (her death), she produced twenty-four books, including an autobiography, nineteen of these books were supposedly written by her Tibetan Master DK (Djwhal Khul). During the intervening years, Alice Bailey spent most of it working out what she referred to as, "The Plan," the results of which, birthed and influenced many New Age groups: The Church Universal and Triumphant, Benjamin Creme's The Tara Center, the Robert Muller Schools and The Temple of Understanding, to name a few.


The Networks of 'Light'
Lucis Trust
Fifty years at the United Nations plaza. Currently located on Wall Street in New York. Lucis Trust provides worldwide financial support for the Arcane School, World Goodwill, Triangles, Lucis Publishing, Lucis Productions, Lucis Trust Libraries, and the New Group of World Servers. Maintains the UN meditation room.

The Arcane School
Founded in 1923, the school gives correspondence courses in meditation and the occult from its branches in New York, Geneva, London and Buenos Aires.
World Goodwill
Founded in 1932, the organization is recognized by the United Nations today as an NGO. World Goodwill works directly with the "world federalists," and is part of the work to "Externalize the Hierarchy" of "Illumined Minds," which will usher in an "Age of Maitreya." Triangles
Founded in 1937, Triangles is the name of a global network of cells, whose members pray a "Great Invocation," especially on the full moon, when members of Triangle can be influenced by the astrological signs of the Zodiac.

We haven't even scratched the surface yet on the influence of Bailey and her Master's teachings. Let's look at a comparison by two writers who talk about Lucis Trust's World Goodwill, which when compared, illustrate both sides of Lucis' agenda; the manipulation of politics towards a New World Order, and the manipulation through occult means to manifest the "Plan" of the "Hierarchy".

From Dark Majesty, by Texe Marrs, pp. 139-40
The Secret Brotherhood has developed the social and political art of networking to a fine science. World Goodwill, in its newsletter of 1986, No. 2, listed a number of groups that have participated in its World Service Forum. Such groups include those that are connected with World Goodwill's centers in London, New York, and Geneva. The list is absolutely mind-boggling in its scope. In London, groups that have actively participated include the United Nations Association, the Teilhardt Center, the International Broadcasting Trust, the Buddhist Society, the Scientific and Medical Network, St. James' Church (Picadilly), Emerson College , International Health Research Network, Habitat International Council, the Shumacher Society, the New Economics Foundation, World Health Organization, Peace Through Unity, the British Holistic Medical Association, the World Wildlife Fund, and World College.

In New York, World Goodwill gives credit to the following organizations for their involvement in its work: the Earth Society Foundation, Clergy and Laity Concerned, Waldorf Education, UNICEF, Emmaus, Hale House, the United Nations Association, the Peace Corps, the US Mission of the United Nations, the Better World Society (CNN founder Ted Turner's group), the Foundation for Global Broadcasting, Fellowship and Prayer, the Institute for Cultural Affairs, Physicians for Social Responsibility, the Bank for Social Responsibility, Habitat for Humanity, The Christophers, the Institute for Community Economics, Women's World Banking, Tibetan Buddhist Learning Center, Environmental Action Coalition, the Catholic Worker, the Nicholas Roerich Museum, the International Center for Integrated Studies, the Sri Aurobindo Society, and the Mead Institute for Human Development.

In Geneva, Switzerland, we find the following groups to be participants in the programs of World Goodwill: The International Commission of Jurists, Pax Christi International, Transnational Prospectives, Amnesty International, the United Nations University for Peace, and the Bureau for Affairs of Non-Governmental Organizations of the United Nations Organization.

From Target: Faith and Freedom
World Goodwill is a non-governmental organization (NGO) accredited with the United Nations while its parent, Lucis Trust, enjoys the prestigious "consultative status" afforded those non-governmental organizations on the roster of the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC). Increasingly, powerful deep pocket NGO's, which are neither elected nor accountable, are received as the voice of "civil society." Those NGO's, which the United Nations selectively elevates to "consultative status," are called upon by ECOSOC as advisors representative of civil society. Both World Goodwill and Lucis Trust are engaged in Earth Charter advocacy. World Goodwill's spirituality is patently pagan. The following declaration is taken from their promotional material.

"During both the full moon and new moon periods there is a similar emphasis on the work of energy distribution in meditation .... we consciously align with the rythmic pattern of energy flow each month, we become a part of a planetary meditative process carried forward at all levels of consciousness and with great creative potential for anchoring the seeds of the coming the coming civilization and the germ of the new culture."

If World Goodwill so unblushingly advocates neo-pagan meditative practices, its overt promotion of an occult "plan" for the governing of the universe is nothing short of chilling:

"There is an inner government of the planet known under such different names as the spiritual Hierarchy, the society of Illumined Minds, or Christ and his Church, according to various religious traditions. Humanity is never left without spiritual guidance or direction under the Plan... The widespread expectation that we approach the "age of Maitreya," as it is known in the East, when the World Teacher and present head of the spiritual Hierarchy, the Christ, will reappear among humanity [via Project Bluebeam's holographics..cb] to sound the keynote of the new age.... There are millions of mentally alert men and women in all parts of the world who are on rapport with the Plan and work to give it _expression. They are people in whom the consciousness of humanity as one interdependent unit is alive and active... These beliefs give a new dimension to spiritual reality .... They provide opportunity for cooporation with the spiritual evolution of humanity... there is no group so likely to ensure that humanity achieves this most difficult goal as the men and women of goodwill .... requiring only courage... to initiate action to prepare for the New World Order."[this is disgusting!!!!!!!!!..cb]


In considering the above information one can't help but wonder whether these organizations, which are aligned with Lucis Trust, believe in the "Plan", as World Goodwill put it, "to initiate action to prepare for the new world order." I believe that they do, and it is my intention to prove that conviction throughout this site. And specifically, that it is a spiritual plan — a plan that, if giving a thorough evaluation from their own writings, can be seen as nothing less than satan's [Ahriman's...cb]attempt to implement a totalitarian demonic throne upon the earth, and humanity's forced worship through Luciferic Rites. For "when the Great One appears," Master Djwhal Khul said 'through' Alice Bailey, "he will take the Mysteries Religion preserved by Freemasonry and make them public."

Lucis Trust has truly become a powerhouse for the New Age ideal; the transformation of society by, and through, occult initiatory means. The respect that Bailey's teachings receive, and the reverence for her Master, is without equal. She has successfully pulled the wool over the eyes of many concerning the true meaning and source of her teachings. What exactly is the teaching and message delivered by her Master?

Alice Bailey & Master Djwhal Khul
A SATANIC COMMUNION
Preparation too must be given to the developing of higher psychic powers...Hospitals and schools will appear under the direct guidance of the Masters; Teachers... will train the minds of the pupils to be responsive to direct inspiration from above [aka satellites, per Swerdlow...cb].

The Externalization of the Hierarchy p.516

As we have seen in part one, Lucis Trust is, today, intimately connected with Elite Politics through its World Goodwill. We haven't yet, however, examined the occult teachings of Bailey as they were related by her Master Djwhal Khul. Her 24 books, combined with the Beacon magazine, Triangles, and the Arcane School indoctrinate students into what Bailey describes as the "Ageless Wisdom" teachings. The Arcane School, founded in 1922, boasted 20,000 graduates by 1954. This occult university is more active than ever and continues to be the main training ground for New Age disciples.

The bulk of these occult teachings, in Bailey's books, are from her channeled Tibetan master Djwhal Khul (DK); the "Plan" according to the Hierarchy of Ascended Masters. Through a series of group-initiations and group-meditative techniques the Hierarchy directs the "New Group of World Servers" to implement a "New World Religion" of which humanity as a whole can aid the "will of the planetary logos". "Emphasis should be laid on the evolution of humanity," so says Master DK through Bailey, "with particular attention to its goal, perfection." [whose idea of perfection, pray tell...cb] (The Externalization of the Hierarchy p. 515) The objective is "the helping of the Great Ones and the rendering to Them of that intelligent assistance which will make Their plans for humanity materialize." (ibid. 516)

One way to "materialize" the Hierarchy's plan for humanity is through Lucis Trust's Triangle networks. Their goal is the practice of occult meditation, "the science of energy flow and energy relationships." Lucis Trust states that "occult meditation is a means of consciously and purposefully directing energy from a recognized source to the creation of some specific effect." International participants "sit quietly for a few minutes and link mentally with other members of their triangle, or triangles. They invoke the energies of light and goodwill, visualizing these energies as circulating through the three focal points of each triangle and pouring through the networks of triangles surrounding the planet. At the same time they repeat the Great Invocation."

Her 30 year telepathic connection to Master DK was what some would un-hesitantly call demonic possession. Her husband Foster Bailey said, "During the long course of the work the minds of the Tibetan and A.A.B [Alice Ann Bailey] became so closely attuned that they were in effect — so far as much of the production of the teaching was concerned — a joint single projecting mechanism." (The introduction to Cosmic Fire) The technique is called in the occult the "overshadowing" — a euphemism for demonic possession, or as Bailey liked to call it "the science of impression". Moreover, the Hierarchy has "overshadowed" many in the intervening years up to the close of the century — the growing modern practice of channeling and psychic astral projection bears out this prediction of a half century ago:

These methods of overshadowing will largely be the ones used by the Great Lord and his Masters at the end of the century, and for this reason They are sending into incarnation, in every country, disciples who have the opportunity offered them to respond to the need of training men and women to recognise the higher psychism, and the true inspiration and mediumship, and to do this scientifically. In fifty years time, the need for true psychics and conscious mediums (such as H.P.B., for instance [Helena Petrova Blavatsky]) will be very great if the Masters' plans are to be carried through to fruition, and the movement must be set on foot in preparation for the coming of Him for Whom all nations wait. [not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!...cb]

A Treaty on Cosmic Fire, pp. 757-758

Ten Seed Groups
In The Externalization of the Hierarchy, Master DK informed Bailey of the Hierarchy's plan for "The Ten Seed-Groups" (p.90). These seed-groups were to infiltrate all sectors of society, and be "esoterically anchored" with "new approaches to divinity." I have no doubt that today's New Age Movement is the result of the Hierarchy's "scattering of the seed", as Bailey put it, and that today's, arguably, open pagan society can largely be traced to this occult "plan". The Ten Seed Groups were "embryonic, like germinating seed". Through their occult practices these ten groups would work directly "under inspiration from the Hierarchy via the focused minds of the group." From Alice Bailey's Discipleship in the New Age - Volume I, p. 35-40, The Ten Seed-Groups are as follows:

1) Telepathic Communicators
Summary of Work

Telepathic communication from soul to soul through: from mind to mind through integration; between humanity and Hierarchy (inner government of the planet) through Science of impression.

2) Trained Observers
Summary of Work

Dissipation of world glamour, illusion and maya through illumination.

3) Magnetic Healers
Summary of Work

Through "magnetic living". Through laws of life — laws of health and right human relationships. Through continuity of consciousness.

4) Educators in the New Age
Summary of Work

Education through inflow of the light of knowledge into "instinctual man". — Through inflow of the light of the wisdom into "intelligent man". Through applied knowledge, expressed wisdom and occult understanding in "spiritual man".

5) Political Organizers
Summary of Work

International understanding through communication of the divine (political) Will into races and nations, **linking the department of the Manu (the Ruler of the human race) with men.**

6) Workers in the Field of Religion
Summary of Work

Through transcendental mysticism. Through transcendental occultism. Through transcendental religion.

7) Scientific Servers
Summary of Work

Through development of new hypotheses to substantiate the next step forward. Through sensitive reaction to spiritual energies and forces. Through release of energy to relate spirit and matter and precipitate the divine Plan.

8) Psychologists
Summary of Work

Through relationship of the human kingdom to the sub-human and the super-human kingdom. Through a study of the divine Plan for the five kingdoms of nature.

9) Financiers and Economists
Summary of Work

Through a study of the nature of prana or etheric energy. — Through study of deflection of this form of concretized energy into constructive channels and "ways of light". — Through study of the law of supply and demand.

10) Creative Workers
Summary of Work

Through linking life and form. Through philosophical relationship of synthesis and the Plan.


Truly an occult conspiracy of the highest kind, and worrisome at the very least for anyone — both Christian and non-believers alike. When you factor in what I've shown in part one — Lucis Trust's influence over international elite politics — it's downright chilling! The most revealing part of the seed-groups is the fact that the political organizers link "the department of the Manu (the Ruler of the human race) with men". The Bible already tells us that "the ruler of the human race" is Satan (John 12:31 & 14:30; Ephesians 6:12; Luke 4:6-7; 2 Cor. 4), then it follows that "the department of Manu" must be but another name for the deceiver. This is indeed the case. In Frontier Science/Social Change, Paul Von Ward relates, "Hermetic Principles...comprise part of a body of knowledge allegedly given to humans by an advanced being more than 5,000 years ago. He has been known by various names, including Thoth or Seth in Egypt, Manu in India, Hermes in Greece, and Lucifer or Satan in the Judeo-Christian tradition."

Idolatrous Incantation
Invocation — a formula for conjuring.
Mantra — a mystical formulation of invocation or incantation. ( Webster's Collegiate Dictionary )
Click photo for a larger view

Oct. 1982. Full page advertisement in Reader's Digest.



As mentioned before, the Great Invocation is sounded while the Triangle networks of "light workers" meditate to cause the "energy flow" of the Fallen Hierarchy to enter and influence humanity. The present version, given in 1945 and shown above, was the third installment of a series of Invocations given to Bailey by Djwhal Khul.

According to Lucis Trust, "The Great Invocation if given widespread distribution, can be to THE NEW WORLD RELIGION what the Lord's prayer has been to Christianity." The wording was intentional, so that Christians would not become suspicious. In Discipleship in the New Age, p.157 we find, "I [Djwhal Khul] have so worded and rendered the Invocation [so] that the Christian world, through its churches, may not find it impossible to use." This represents a calculated deception on DK's part. On pgs. 150 and 156, we learn: "It can be so presented to the masses everywhere, the general public, will be prompted to take it up and will use it widely... The meaning of this Invocation has been expressed in terms which are understandable, in a measure, to the average person because of its familiar wording, based on many Scriptural terms. But the true inner implications and significances are... not superficially apparent... They mean one thing to the ordinary man...; they mean another thing to the man upon the Probationary Path...; these words mean still another thing to the disciple...; to initiates and to the senior Members of the Fallen Hierarchy, they convey a still higher and more inclusive significance."

Another common phrase promoted by the Theosophical Society to be used as a salutation is "Namaste". They claim that it means "The Light in me greets the Light in you", however in fact it is formed from the Sanskrit roots "Nama" and "Te" meaning "to submit oneself" (i.e. to offer subservience). According to the Temurraic principles of Kabbalistic decryption; permutation and rotation of the letters proves it to equate as "Me/We Satan".

That is indeed the case, and the actual words used are giving a totally opposite meaning when examined under the light of Biblical Scripture, and compared point for point with Bailey's writings (she often quotes scripture — the interpretations of which are given by her channeled Master). See Ph.D Robert A Herrmann's web page A Modern Manifestation of Absolute Evil for his paper called A Scientific Analysis of the Writings of Alice A. Bailey and their Applications for a treatment in DK's (Bailey's) deception. For instance:

Light = Luciferian Enlightenment
God = Satan
stream forth = overshadow
love = various forms of Scripturally defined evil or, generally, hatred.
Christ = Antichrist
little wills of men = the claimed unintelligent, weak and inferior desires of individuals; especially those that follow conservative Judeo-Christian doctrine.
purpose = to prepare for the appearance of the Antichrist
Masters = demons or demon controlled individuals.
race of men = "humanity" as ruled by Lucifer
plan = complete domination in preparation for and after the appearance of the Antichrist.
seal the door where evil dwells = violent, if necessary, eradication of those that follow Judaism, conservative Christianity, some liberal Christianity, and other similar orthodox religions. [note: this is so because of the "separativeness" of these religious views. Djwhal Khul calls this evil, and that it must be eradicated for the Hierarchy's plans of the New Age-New World Religion to proceed. In multiple passages DK identifies the Jews and Christians as the spirit of separativeness, i.e., John 14:6, and Exodus 20:3]
power = often hideous and actual destructive forces.
The Great Invocation has now been translated into 50 languages and is the mantra of the New Age. It has even received the attention of world dignitaries at the UN where it has been sounded at many official conferences and during the opening ceremonies in 1992 at the UN's Earth Summit in Rio. During a talk given by Ida Urso at a Lucis Trust Arcane School conference in 1995, the connections between the UN and the Great Invocation were explained: "It is no coincidence that we are celebrating both the 50th anniversary of the Great Invocation and the United Nations. Both in different ways are pivotal to the Plan... let us together complete the triangle of light... let us contemplate that world body--'the hope of humanity'--which was conceived just 50 years ago under the impulse of the three spiritual Festivals (falling on March 28th, April 27th and May 26th)... It was on April 25, 1945 two days previous to the full moon of Taurus and the Festival of Wesak [note: the best time to recite the Great Invocation, according to Lucis Trust, as the energies of the Hierarchy are in alignment with the Earth] that delegates from 50 nations, met in San Francisco for a conference known officially as the United Nations Conference on International Organization... On this period the Tibetan Master tells us: 'Not for nothing is this conference being held during the five days of the Wesak Full Moon. It will be a time of supreme difficulty, in which the Forces of Light will face... the forces of selfishness and separativeness.'" It seems the dreaded UN was a spiritual undertaking in alignment with the luciferic light. This adds weight to researchers like Reverend Wayne C. Sedlak and his position paper called The United Nations: A Most Sophisticated Coven.

Whenever the Invocation is recited, according to Lucis Trust's booklet on the subject, that individual "allies himself with the spiritual Hierarchy," whether he knows it or not. And in Discipleship, Bailey writes, "it embodies the divine intent and summarizes the conclusions of the thinking of the planetary Logos."



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Luciferic Initiation

Some background is necessary on Chakras (word meaning "spinning wheel" or "vortex" and the Kundalini (the Serpent's Sting), in order to proceed further with this expose.

In Hindu occult practice (the main root of the New Age Movement) there are 7 major centers for kundalini energy. By occult methods using meditation, drugs, visualization, yoga and whatever means necessary, initiates seek to awaken the sleeping fiery serpent (kundalini) for a "higher" state of consciousness.

This kundalini energy is visualized as an entwined serpent which rises from the base of the spine to "enlighten" and eventually dissolve the ego — to become a god incarnate, thereby preventing further incarnation on the physical plane. The New Age disciples believe in reincarnation and are taught by the demonic Hierarchy that this is the only way to stop the endless cycle of Karma — to evolve into Gods...(i.e. Gen. 3:5).

That is the goal and the techniques vary, but as one "ascends" through the 7 progressive chakras, each is an initiation unto a higher consciousness, until finally when you reach the point of union with "Sanat Kumara", "Shiva", "Vishnu", "Lord of the World" or what they most blasphemously call the "Christ Consciousness". [Note from me: In www.themarsrecords.com, Stephanie Relfe says that They created the Christ Consciousness and the Akashic Records and that we should disconnect from them - this is confirmation of that theory!...cb]

Satan's deception is that through each successive chakra, the occult initiate actually does perceive a shift in consciousness, which to him, it seems, is a progressive shift. The occultist now feels his contact and psychic telepathy with the Fallen Hierarchy getting stronger. As he continues, the initiate invariably reaches a point of no return. There is no turning back and all those doubts he failed to heed — being the "right" path or not — are finally revealed to him...it's too late. They're his! This is called the Luciferic Initiation. [What does Swerdlow say about kundalini activation??? Seems like he said you have to be really advanced to be able to handle it, but I don't recall him saying that it was a negative thing... not sure...anybody remember? I'm not online at the moment... that stupid worm keeps bumping me off...cb]


Texe Marrs put it best when he wrote, "These feelings, voiced by so many who have received a Luciferic Initiation, are significant. They point to two inescapable facts: (1) The initiate recognizes that he is coming into close contact with dark, evil forces, and a spirit of fear engulfs him; and (2) after the initiation, his mind is patently altered. This is what New Agers call the Kundalini or Skaktipat experience, technically termed a Paradigm (World-view) Shift." (Mystery Mark of the New Age, p.39)

In the Judaic Mysticism of Kaballah (Ka Ba Allah), two paths of spiritual power are described; the Lightning Path and the Serpent Path.

Both activate the chakras; yet differ in origin and fruition.

The Lightning Path is that of alternating L-Field Energy Shifts (Jacob's Ladder) descending from the Abba Nartoomid (Father of Limitless Light - the Eternal Mother-Father God YHWH).

The Serpent Path is that of perpetual internal twisting through myriad corridors of limitation and unending karma. It is associated with the deceptive path of Lucifer and Satan.

Bailey's Planetary Logos

For the Greeks the Logos was the divine pattern found in humans. The plural of logic. The Hebrews had a similar view, which they called Dabar. Dabar was also a representation of a divine pattern, and they thought that it could only be found in certain things. An example would be Moses receiving the Word(Logos) from God through the Ten Commandments. It was known as the means through which man can receive the wisdom of God. The Apostle John was aware of this concept, and he used it to appeal to both the Greeks and the Hebrews of his time. "In the beginning was the Word (Logos), and the Word (Logos) was with God...and the Word (Logos) was made flesh, and dwelt among us." (John 1: 1,14) It was a particularly forceful way of teaching the Divinity of Jesus as the Logos. Consequently, this plural aspect in the Logos was to be a defining factor for the Church's teaching of the Trinity.

Jesus has always been the Logos. So when Bailey's teacher and mentor, H.P. Blavatsky, wrote, "...actually the "Serpent" was the "Lord God" himself, who, as the Ophis, the Logos, or the bearer-of divine creative wisdom, taught mankind to become creators in their turn...[1]", Christians must have been horrified. Bailey's own "Planetary Logos" carries on in the Luciferic tradition...she didn't call her organization Lucifer Trust for nothing!

SHAMBALLA
The Holy City Will or Power
Purpose, Plan
Life Aspect Ruler: Sanat Kumara,
The Lord of
the World, The Ancient
of Days,
Melchizedek Planetary Head
Center, Spiritual Pineal Gland
THE HIERARCHY
The New Jerusalem Love-Wisdom Consciousness Group Unity Ruler: The Christ, The World Savior Planetary Heart Center
HUMANITY
The City, Standing Foursquare Active Intelligence Self-Consciousness Creativity Ruler: Lucifer, Son of the Morning, The Prodigal Son Planetary Throat Center


And so it is, Alice Bailey's "trinity". Notice that Lucifer is the Ruler of Humanity. He's also identified with something called the "planetary throat center." This is a clue that she is talking about chakras. Lucifer, or rather, luciferic energy is released when the 5th chakra (throat) is awakened. Notice how Sanat (Satan) Kumara is also identified with the "spiritual pineal gland" and "planetary head center", this would correspond to 7th chakra — chakras are also called "energy centers", so Bailey's "Planetary Centers" fits within the chakra teaching, and Bailey calls her Logos "Logoic kundalini."

In part one I displayed the Lucis Trust logo. The New Age Symbol invented by Foster Bailey has a plethora of symbolic imagery. The symbol, according to Lucis Trust, is "set in a limitless field of blue, which signifies the sphere of life _expression of our solar logos...superimposed upon the triangle of new age forces is the five pointed star of [Anti]Christ.

In Initiation, Human and Solar, Bailey mentions the five-pointed star as the final two initiations and "it descends upon him, merges in him, and he is seen at its center." The five pointed star "blazes forth" and "he enters within the flame." A perfect description of the Luciferic Initiation if there ever was one! This, she says, "puts a man in touch with the center in the Body of the Planetary Logos."

For further information please go to:

 http://www.redmoonrising.com/maitreya.htm

 http://www.econcrisis.homestead.com/LucisTrustAndTheNWO.html



dh


The African experience

12.12.2003 01:16

 http://forums.cloud-busters.com/Orgone Experiences/9484/
Dr. B and I already wrote about the experience with Kizira at Budhagali
Falls but I've visited K three other times and learned a few things, both
by observation and from his instruction. I want to show you just how
universal human faith and spiritual guidance are and to share a glimpse of
a bit of Uganda's spiritual tradition.

I first met Kizira when I was still at home in the USA. I clearly sensed
his presence while I was working in my garage one day in October, a few
weeks before I came to Africa. Dr. Batiibwe had told me by email that
Kizira was in the process of checking me out. His own initial contact with
Kizira came right after Carol and I had suggested that he look for a
reputable traditional healer in order to expand his own resources as a
medical doctor who applies alternative healing methods. Dr. B had long
been interested in alternative medicine and had adopted many of these
modes, including electromedicine, colloidal silver, nutrition, herbs and
ozone therapy, in his capacity as chief physician at Kiboga District
Hospital.

His initial meeting with Kizira last July came through a personal
introduction by a patient of his in a distant village who had cancer and
had been to see the healer. Sadly, that woman died not long afterward
because her husband forbade her to get the treatment she needed.

Kizira gave me a bottle of his herbal cancer cure, by the way, which I'm
going to pass along to William von Peters, the cloudbuster network's very
reputable naturopathic physician and homeopath, for his consideration when
I get back. One of the things I hope to see developing from my visit here
is a close collaboration between my Ugandan healer friends and von Peters.

After several visits with K, Dr. B became better acquainted with his own
spirituality/sensitivity and also was able to witness Kizira's skill and
range of knowledge in the use of healing herbs and foods, which he uses as
an adjunct to his ability to heal with prayer and touch.

Many doctors here talk about working alongside traditional healers, but
Batiibwe was never satisfied with just talking, which is probably why we've
come to be such good friends in a short time.

During his 44 years, Kizira had attended a Muslim primary school, been a
fishmonger, a guerrilla fighter (under the command of now-President
Musaveni) and a furniture maker but in 1995 he began his present career
after asking God, in desperation, to indicate the path to his own destiny.
The next morning he woke to find a small, intricate diagram on his forearm,
in a pattern suggestive, to me, of a Chinese calligram or crop circle. The
marking was very light compared to his surrounding, pigmented skin.

A series of visions followed and, perhaps not wishing to be considered
insane by his neighbors, he moved to Kenya to begin practicing his new
healing art. His mother was a traditional healer, so he was no stranger to
herbal and psycho/spiritual practices but she disowned him after he
rejected her traditional reliance on local deities in favour of a reliance
on one Creator. The first thing he tells visitors is to stop praying to
anyone but the Creator of the Universe, as reliance on anyone else
guarantees a diminished return for one's efforts.

Things didn't feel right for him in Kenya, though, and he recognized this
as a sign that he needed to take a more difficult path, so he returned to
Uganda, where he was guided to buy his present plantation, about 12 km from
Kiboga near the highway to Kampala, After he moved there, he had series of
visions that confirmed his decision.

During these waking visions, the surroundings disappeared and he got clear
instructions about how he was to conduct his affairs.

After healing a few locals, rumors began to spread about him, most of which
were unfriendly, and at one point someone from the government approached
him with an offer to pay him for his psychic abilities on their behalf,
which he apparently declined.

As you probably know, at least from my accounts of my work with similar psychics/healers in the US, the spiritual struggles of gifted people areessentially no different from yours and mine and they're perhaps even more tightly bound by Universal Law since they work closer to it while they'rein the supernormal state, so reward and retribution, which are the universal means of assisting spiritual growth, are a little more immediatefor them..Kizira is wise enough (unlike me) to realize that it was only a matter oftime before his genuine love for people would dispel these rumors andthat's mostly come to pass by now, though some gov't people seem to feel alittle suspicious, still, which is to be expected, I suppose. Fortunately for Kizira, the gov't here isn't much aligned with the Illuminati and,while their intelligence-gathering ability is quite impressive, the intentof their policing isn't the complete eradication of personal freedom, as itmostly is in America and some other formerly-free countries, sad to say.Georg and I met Kizira on an overnight trip to Kiboga during our first weekin Uganda. Dr. Batiibwe went with us to make the introductions and told usthat before he (Dr. B) knew that George would also be coming to Uganda,Kizira had seen us both arriving in a vision, referring to Georg, then, asa younger, taller man, which he is.Dr. B was a little trepidatious about the meeting, as Kizira had never had a pleasant experience with a mzungu before. That apprehension was quickly dispelled after the introductions, though, and K was his usual,gregarious, confident and outrageous self in no time.After sampling some of his herbal concoctions (nothing he makes is harmful)and a fine dinner of fresh beans and sweet potatoes, two of Kizira's youngsons began playing drums, his wives and other children arranged themselvesin a chorus and Kizira led some songs which he'd received in visions. After the proper atmosphere had been established, he went in turn from Georg, myself, Drs. K and B and Dr. B's father (a retired national gov't official), who was visiting Kiboga, and held our hands, then our foreheads and told us a bit about our destinies. It's probably not appropriate forme to mention anyone else's message, but he told me that I need to work onusing the power of my utterance to defeat my enemies, which are quitenumerous in America and desparately want to kill me these days. It's beenquite a vacation here for me, I must say, and all those Illumiatidungbeetles and their murderous Homeland Security Abomination flunkies seemfar away right now. I think I needed a little break from those jerks.While Kizira's in his psychic mode, his hand trembles. This now alsohappens to Dr. B when the process is happening. K always praises theCreator and asks for his help before attempting any psychic efforts, whichI think is awfully nice.After our Budhagali trip, he explained some of the energy dynamics thatwere involved there. According to his reckoning, there were extraordinary,individual humans in ancient times who came to be identified, after a period of integration in the next world following their physical deaths,with certain power spots and people came to call these places by thedeceased, extraordinary individuals' names and propitiated their memories according to the exemplary lives that they had led, so in places likeBudhagali Falls where the 'guardian spirit' was a benevolent individual,rituals were performed which honoured that aspect. In places where thenamesake's lifework was essentially evil, evil acts were performed to perpetuate their living example.The reason we performed the ritual on the island in the Nile by the fallsis that in recent years, the site had been subverted by murderous voodoopractitioners, in conjunction with government/corporate plans to build a hydroelectric plant a little further downstream. Apparently, the bad guysknew that they needed to banish Budhagali from the falls before they could gather the power to submerge the falls with the new dam. It remains to beseen whether they'll now be able to construct the dam, of couse. If more electricity is needed, there are surely other sites along the Nile that can be as easily dammed if the gov't rather insists on not using existing freeenergy tech and the further downstream one goes, the fewer people will bedisplaced by a project like that.By the way, several 'developing world' governments, including Costa Rica,have made tentative plans to establish free energy technology but I thinkeveryone's just waiting for the first one to demonstrate that his/her nation won't get peremptorily nuked by the City of London's legbreaker, theUS, for having the courage to put this already-developed technology towork on a national scale. Of course when that happens, the trolls inLondon won't have a leg to stand on any more, so to speak, since all oftheir hegemony is now based on already-obsolete petroleum. I personally hope that this pioneer tech will emerge in Uganda. I notice that the CIAand MI6, the only terrorist organizations on the planet, don't have much ofa stranglehold on this gov't as they still do in Costa Rica and also in the rest of Africa. To say that African culture is characterized by any specific practice or belief system is misleading. As a reputable anthropologist once pointedout, this continent is a veritable cornucopia that can be used to prove ordisprove anything at all based on the practices of a given culture orsubgroup and calling it 'African.' Hence the plethora of anthropologists who visit here to substantiate their own particular personal dogma and philosophy. To illustrate his point, the author had visited two African cultures, whichI believe are in Uganda, to document two societal extremes and take thewind out of the sails of the small army of fake-science western antrhopologists. The folks in one culture are intensely impoverished, selfish and abusive and the author noted seeing a blind man, who hadsnatched a piece of rotting meat from a carcass that some jackals were dining on, being then overwhelmed by people who fought each other for theputrid scrap, leaving the poor guy in a bruised heap. He gave another example of a nearby culture in which everyone seems to share responsibilityfor the community's overall material and emotional wellbeing and where everyone was happy to look after the needs of children, no matter which family they belonged to. I think most African cultures fall somewhere in between those extremes.



dh


Bum link

12.12.2003 01:33

dh


Re; Belief systems

14.12.2003 19:16

Fascinating ! How does the Byzantine movement fit into all this ?

interested


super smashing great

15.12.2003 13:30

So that's the response to the worst piece of state-backed religious intolerance western Europe has seen since the Second World War.. pendantic nit-picking, conspiracy theories, and someone saying religion is shit. Hey, I should have known! ;-)

Actually confirms my decision to give up on the increasingly eccentric, sectarian and troll-ridden newswire and just read the main features. Bye y'all! Have fun!


kurious


CORRECTIONS

29.09.2004 23:14

WHY IS THERE A SEEMINGLY INSATISABLE APPETITE FOR PEOPLE SHOUTING COMMENTS TO DECRY SUCH
NOBLE INSTITUTIONS/ENTITIES WITH DEVIL LIKE CHARACHTERISTICS. FOR EG. IN ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS THE "SANUT KUMARA" WAS MADE OUT AS "SATAN KUMARA". DOES THIS PERSON EVEN UNDERSTAND THE SANUTS' PURPOSE OR BEING?, OR IS IT JUST THAT THE WORD "SANUT" HAS A RESEMBLANCE IN SPEECH TO SATAN? I AM ALSO SICK OF PEOPLE REFERING TO "THE LUCIS TRUST" AS "LUCIFER TRUST". WHY? BECAUSE THEY CLAIM IT AS THE "ORIGINAL" NAME? PROVE IT!?
I THINK SUCH PEOPLE ARE SHORT SIGHTED, CLOSED OF MIND AND HAVE THEMSELVES GOT DEEP ISSUES WITH DISCRIMINATION. (Where would anyone be if we all Demonised what we didn't understand?) OPEN YOURSELF TO LEARNING THE TRUTH OF SUCH THINGS BEFORE MAKING JUDGEMENT - AFTER ALL IS NOT ALL MISCONCEPTION A GLOBAL CONCERN LEADING TO EXTREME DISCRIMINATION? THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!

ANDREW DAWSON