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Demonstration Grows

Andrew Alexander | 04.12.2003 22:43 | Anti-racism | London

Demonstration of Marks and Spencer grows after call for support. Zionist counter-demo dishes out more threats and sick propaganda.

Report of Marks and Spencer Picket (04/12/03)


First of all I’d just like to say a big thanks to everyone who heeded last week’s call for support and came along to the picket. Compared to the previous week it was a real success and numbers were high, (at least far higher than the Zionist thugs) into the 40’s and easily over 50 different people throughout the 2 hours. There were quite a few old faces and new faces too.

The pickets have been going every week for the last three years as a focus for continuing Palestinian solidarity work here in Israel. Marks and Sparks has been chosen as the target because they are Britain’s biggest commercial sponsor of Israel and because their Board of Directors have public stated that it is one of the companies main aims to support and aid the economic development of the country.

Recently an alliance of right wing Zionists called Betar-Tagar and British fascists have organised a counter-demonstration to force disorder giving the police an excuse to close the demonstrations down under the Public Order Act. The pickets have been well organised and disciplined though and they have not succeeded in their task, they have only succeeded in making them bigger.

It was good to see quite a few people from ISM were down today and saw a lot of the propaganda, especially concerning lies about the ISM. Earlier in the day there were rumours that Betar members were distributing literature on Oxford St with Tom Hurndall on. It gave the impression that they were raising money for Tom because the family had a cheque from Israel to cover the cost of flying Tom back (the cheque bounced). Money raised by Betar goes straight to the IDF.

The pickets of course continue next week. Please come along, it is vital we maintain pressure against M&S and Israel. Especially now with all the people on the street at Christmas time. Let them know what is really happening this time of year in Bethlehem. Victory to the Intifada!

Next picket: Brixton M&S, 12 till 2pm, Saturday 6th December.
Oxford St M&S, 6 till 8pm, Thursday 11th December.
Meeting on Ethnic Cleansing in Palestine, 7pm, Room S75, St Clements Building, London School of Economics, Wednesday 10th December.

Andrew Alexander
- e-mail: victoryintifada@hotmail.com

Comments

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RCG

04.12.2003 23:37

RCG are a tiny Trot splinter group, who latch onto pickets like this to recruit new members.

They support the Castro regime in Cuba, on the grounds that it must be real socialism if the US is against it.

There are many ways to fight the zionists' crimes in Palestine. But don't bother turning up to one of these RCG/FRFI pickets unless you feel like getting recruited by yet another tiny, powerless Trot faction, banging the drum for dicators in the name of freedom.

dave


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04.12.2003 23:54

God knows why this reactionary leftist shit is allowed on IMC.

Get it off.

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Glad I went

05.12.2003 10:12

Glad I went.

Report @  http://www.rafahkid.net/2003_11_30_archive.html#107061805778830115 and hopefully somewhere on here as well.

Mark @ ISM London
- Homepage: http://www.rafahkid.net


trot rubbish

05.12.2003 10:56

they've also been spreading lies, desperately trying to get more people to their picket, by claiming that the BNP and british fascists have been picketing them along with Zionists!

Cos fascists love the Jews don't they!

alexa


The left are being misled by arab anti-semites

05.12.2003 11:29

The left are being misled by arab anti-semites. Those that demonstrate against Israel do not know the facts about the situation in the Middle East! Israel has had to defend itself against numerous attacks from both Palestinian terrorists and it arab neighbours who have attempted to destroy it. Israel does not persecute arabs or Palestinians! Israel only puts in place security measures inorder to defend itself. These security measures are not ment to be a form of persecution as arabs wrongly claim. Within Israel both Jews and arabs are equal citizens and have equal rights. 17 per cent of Israels popuation is made up of arabs and other ethnic minorities compared to only 7 per cent of the UK and 12 per cent of North America.

In the year 2000 Israel made the most generous offer ever to the Palestinians to give them a state of their own. This offer included the dismantling of 100 settlements in the occuppied terrortries, the return of Palestinian refugees to the occuppied terrortries. Yet this generous offer was flatly rejected by Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian Authority.

speaker of the truth


Confused "anti-leftist" alert!

05.12.2003 11:43

Why would someone who uses phrases like "leftist shite" also use a critical term like "reactionary"?

No contradiction there [HEAVY IRONY].

Might have escaped your notice, ".", but IMC is pretty much a "leftist" site.

Honestly. You people.

Duh


because

05.12.2003 11:54

they're not the SWP so they're allowed!

;-)


Oh Little Town of Bethlehem

05.12.2003 12:18

Ignore the astoundingly narrow-minded sectarian comments of the last two flamebaiters and TURN UP to Marks and Spencers picket in the run up to Christmas.

Christmas time is critically important to trading companies like M&S--it is the time when they make a lot of sales. It is obvious that this is the time to turn up the heat on them and try to make them lose money. And it is also a time when many people are thinking about places like Bethlehem because of the Christmas connection. It is a time to remind them of the crimes the Zionists are committing in Bethlehem and other Palestinian towns.

Who cares whether the RCG is there or not? Contrary to popular mythology, they don't have horns. At least they are DOING something to turn the heat up on the Zionists. Most Indymedia readers are capable of participating in pickets and other actions with all sorts of political organisations and campaigning groups. I am sure that they are also quite capable of listening to what they have to say and making their own minds up about them. They don't need advice from armchair wiseacres and know alls.

The logic of the above comments is actually to never attend any activity since some disagreeable organisation or other might possibly turn up. The RCG were on the 2 million demo against the war last Spring. Perhaps the above two commentators would have advised against attending that event too?

Chris


WHAT?

05.12.2003 12:36

after reading the article again i see no mention of RCG/FRFI so wtf are you on about
hey at least these people are doing somthing positive unlike you 2 armchair critics
and i suspect your Daily mail readers tryin to put people off
who gives a fuck who calls the demo/boycott/march anyway ? u fuckwits










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Israel is not a racist state!

05.12.2003 13:32

Israel is not a racist state. 17 per cent of Israeli citizens are arabs or members of other ethnic minorities. In the occuppied terrortries Israel has not deliberatly persecuted Palestinians, it has only taken security measures. These security measures are neccessary in Israels' fight against Palestinian terrorism. If the Palestinian terrorists laid down their arms and instead held negotiations with the Israeli government then a lasting solution would be found.

unbiased


O Little Town of Bethlehem...

06.12.2003 00:43

Ignore the astoundingly narrow-minded sectarian comments of the last two flamebaiters and TURN UP to Marks and Spencers picket in the run up to Christmas.

Christmas time is critically important to trading companies like M&S--it is the time when they make a lot of sales that get them through the rest of the year. It is obvious that this is the time to turn up the heat on them and try to make them lose money. And it is also a time when many people are thinking about places like "the holy land" because of the Christmas connection. It is a time to remind them of the crimes that the Zionists are committing in the region today.

Who cares whether the RCG is there or not? Contrary to popular mythology, they don't have horns. At least they are doing something to expose the Zionists. And the Zionists are responding in kind it would seem. Most Indymedia readers are capable of participating in pickets and other actions with all sorts of political organisations and campaigning groups. I am sure that they are also quite capable of listening to what they have to say and making their own minds up about them. They don't need advice from armchair know it alls.

The logic of the above comments is actually to never attend any activity since some disagreeable organisation or other might possibly turn up. The RCG were on the 2 million demo against the war last Spring. Perhaps the above two commentators would have advised against attending that event too?

Gayle


RCG

06.12.2003 12:55

Yes, it's the RCG's front group, FRFI. Here's a sample of some of their previous posts, found via Google:
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/09/277320.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/09/277084.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/279974.html

Chris, or Gayle as she also apparently likes to be called, here accuses her critics of being "sectarian" because they don't like her sect. Well I'm not in any bloody sect, and I'm still a critic of the RCG.

Why? Because they pretend to be "socialists", but strongly support the Stalinist regime of Castro in Cuba. Here's another one of their front groups in the US, RATB:
 http://www.ratb.org.uk/index.html
RATB hustle for student fodder via a boycott-Bacardi campaign in universities, while FRFI gets them in by pro-Palestine pickets.

Back before the RCP/RCG split, they supported the old Soviet regime, the former Ceausescu regime in Romania, and Pol Pot in Cambodia. They called the Velvet Revolution in Prague "a defeat for socialism".

I agree that Fascist thugs like Betar certainly need to be opposed:
 http://site.yahoo.net/jewishsport/betar.html

...but so do all supporters of dictators, like RCG / FRFI. Your enemy's enemy is not always your friend.

dave


Word of explanation

06.12.2003 14:21

When I posted first comment above entitled "Oh Little Town of Bethlehem" yesterday, it did not appear on this page for over 10 hours. I assume that there was some kind of technical foul-up with the site. By the time it did appear, other comments had appeared before mine that were not on the page at the time I wrote the comment.

In my comment, I criticised the "last two comments". I want to make it clear that I was referring to the first two comments on this page and not the comments that later appeared immediately before mine in the 10 hours it took for my comment to appear.

I also posted my comment a second time because, after 10 hours, I assumed that my first attempt to post it had failed.

Finally, I always use changing pseudonyms/pen-names for posts on this site--and I suggest that others do the same. You never know who is watching with a semi-fascist like Blunkett as Home Secretary, do you?

Chris, Gayle, any other pseudonym you like


deary me

06.12.2003 20:48

what's this, a 'speaker of the truth' speaking of arab anti-semites!!! hello? arabs are semites. change your name. fuckwit.

frill


hmm interesting

16.01.2004 14:26

i have been to see this counter-demos outside marks and sparks. didn't meet any bnp members or indeed and fascists. are you sure you're not telling porkies?

the public


Misleading sectarian

28.03.2004 23:33

It should be noted that as well as taking a reactionary position, Dave is somewhat misleading, whether deliberately or through ignorance is difficult to say. It is interesting that the only consistent practical event in support of the Intifada draws so much hatred, not only from Zionists but also people calling themselves anarchists. Even worse, it is not as though these people seem to do anything else but moan. They could even turn up at the picket and promote their own position on Palestine without any interference, but they chose not to. Forget Israeli assassinations and crimes, the RCG may hand them a leaflet or try and sell them a paper, horror of horrors! Anyone serious or confident of their politics would not be frightened of being on an event with people of a different position.

A few facts:

1) The Revolutionary Communist Group organised the picket together with others, and never hid or was ashamed of the fact.

2) The RCG is not Trotskyist

3) The RCG never supported the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia, but rather supported the Vietnamese government that overthrew the genocidal Pol Pot regime and exposed the links of British and US imperialism to the Pol Pot clique.

4) The Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP) split from the RCG before the latter started supporting the USSR. The RCP did not survive.

5) Any Trot worth his/her salt OPPOSES Cuba and OPPOSED the USSR as 'Stalinist'

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