ESF demo in Paris
j-walker | 15.11.2003 23:47 | European Social Forum | Globalisation | Social Struggles
Pictures from today's european social forum march which attracted anywhere between 100-200 00 people depending on who you believe.
There were the usual walking corpses of the old left such at socialist worker and even the french socialist party (formerly in goverment and having imposed a stack of neo-liberal reforms). They need the around 20-30 heavies to guard their section of the march, perhaps in fear of attacks from other sections unhappy at their presence. They obviously know many people think they are not welcome, not so unfortunatly for some sections of the ESF organising committee. In anycase there was more radicality on the streets than you might expect and a fun and lively time was had by many, especially a bloc of aroun 4-500 marching around a massive and very impressive samba band,
j-walker
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I wish I could have been there - thanks for these images!
16.11.2003 10:25
From what I've read, the European Social Forum was an impressive gathering of activists with all sorts of different ideas, but with a common aim - to build a better world. Another world is truly possible if we all work together with mutual respect.
I would have loved to have been there myself - but hopefully we in Britain will all get a chance to participate in the European Social Forum when it comes here next year.
One thing though that seems to be out of character with the images you posted up - why the point scoring against the Socialist Workers Party? Your comments seem to cheapen the inclusive message that the images you posted convey. I know SWP members and they are knowledgeable and full of ideas. The SWP party members I know played a big part in organising people to get to those massive anti-war demonstrations earlier this year. Let's not alienate other activists with sour point-scoring.
Sally Ombottu
point scoring
16.11.2003 12:33
I don't doubt that many swp members to do some good work. my problem is that their ideas and the way they interact with others alienate other activists. This constant broken record speeches but much worse the limits of their ideology. That's why i made the reference to walking corpses, becuase their ideas haven't changed since 1950 and this was most completly demonstrated at the debate between negri and callinicos where callinicos had to revert to making things up by saying things like "negri thinks the working day has decreased" which he never said, he said it has extended.
The swp are running a franchise and can't admit their product is out of date cause it means their whole organisation is based on old ideas that are only partially relevent today.
Hope that is a bit more articulate.
J-walker
a quote
16.11.2003 12:57
-Raoul Vaneigem, The Revolution Of Everyday Life.
human
Unity
16.11.2003 19:16
Annie McCall
E pluribus unum
16.11.2003 21:02
I think criticism is never wrong, but name-calling is. I can get mad at the remarks of people from the Internationale Socialisten (as they're called in the Netherlands) about music in demonstrations, but that doesn't mean they're bad... I mean there are some anarchists which to me seem to have lost the revolution on the way, and just like to amuse themselves, but that's cool with me, and I think also amusing yourself is an important part of resistance, if done properly.
I would prefer it if the term "corpse" is not used in reference to a "comrade", for they may be slow-witted, but they are stupid nor evil and thus are not zombies or vampires, although maybe a bit like vampires LOL
Renke
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