oh come off it football??? some anarchist u are football is just a ruling class thing to get people away from the real things/issues distract and rule is their motto anyone who is into football aint an anarchist and i know the 'its a real working class sport' excuse.......... well its to keep the underclasses down fighting amonst themselves while those bastards (multnationals and their govt lackys) do what they want like pissing on the planet and the people surly you can come up with better ways of amusing yourself than playing the games the capitalists pass down to you just think abut it playing football while those fuckers laugh at you or are you really a far right infiltrator trying to waste peoples time (maybe thats too harsh but those fucks aint stupid i wish they were) in my humble opinion the only good footballer is a dead one same as the nf/bnp but arnt they the same thing footballers and far right? (A)
maybe i was a little harsh but you did bite didnt you
:Try finding out about it before treating us to one of your neanderthal prolier-than-thou rants. well i looked at the site and its got some japanese comercial cartoon thats very anarchic its got the line Are you an anarchist or interested in anarchist/anti-authoritarian politics and love the game of soccer? but the way u get interested in soccer is following the big games isnt it and being brainwashed by big buisness to support a major league player who's tickets' cost could feed a family for a couple a days
anyway thats getting away from my point about football i actually dont mind when men and women play in parks (mostly its ignorant foul mouthed men) and have fun and there is no competition mostly competition promotes agro and ill feeling and if no one keeps scores and people change sides all the time then it is really an anarchistic game but you dont get that much of that kind of football around and unfortunatly i dont think that website promotes that kind of play but i may be wrong (do women play in that league?) thats my answer to your little comment PS you should contol your temper a little (A) and by the way
:If you're so Workerist, why aren't you a pure Marxist?
i didnt use the word worker as i live in uk and some of the most fascist scum call themselves working class and alot of 'workers' read the likes of the sun which as we all know is a really left paper really the definitations of working class should be changed when people here (in indy etc)refer to working class they mean people who give a shit or are in the lowest income brackets but in england most so called working class earn a fuck of alot and hate refugees and are racist homophobic bigots. how many copies of the sun and the mirror and the mail are read each day in work? (refugees and black market workers are the real working class in the uk)
Where's the Uk equivalent of this? Or am i missing something?
Regarding the role of sports in the working classes etc. football came from the underclass of this island community, it gets used as a manipulator now but the heritage is ours. If you don't think it serves any organising purposes you should really read about the stadiums in the old days of the oppresive communist regimes were the only places of safety were the football crowds. The only dissent possible at times was the booing of the KGB teams who would use the name 'dynamo'. In africa political ideas have long been discussed at the footbal match. Again, safety in numbers.
I suggest you read 'football against the enemy' by simon kuper to discover what football supporters are like worldwide and how football is used by the working classes and how it has allowed certain communities strength in numbers, as well as the obvious joys of watching the talents of gifted players.
It's no wonder we are such a pissy little movement when we come across like party poopers and self-righteous weirdos.
Well glory be. Are any of you aware of that concept of self awareness? You might end up chuckling to yourselves, or like me, roll around on the floor crying with laughter if you re-read your self-righteous little words. FOOTBALL IS FUN. It was not invented by Bill Gates so that you would all go and buy MS OFFICE after you'd been to White Hart Lane for the derby. And an unrelated point(?) the loathing and contempt i pick up from most of you, directed at the bobbies is sod all when you witness hundreds, sometimes thousands of overweight 'working class men/mechanics' fighting them, for no other reason then they've been knocked out of the autoglass windshield north area quarter final. Someone who likes football. (The ruling elite of autoglass have insurance rights on my windscreen.)
We're talking about "anarchist football" here, not your perception of football in its commercial form, which is obviously problematic in many respects. The sport of football itself is not inherently problematic.
It is sad that you can't even bother to read the website to see what actual anarchists are doing before spouting off some bitter, ignorant remarks.
Check the About page on the Anarchist Football Network website:
"Anarchist Football Network is an online resource for anarchist soccer/football related activities happening around the world. It depends on active participation from its users to be a useful, ongoing resource.
Anarchist football probably developed out of many anarchists' love of the simplicity of football and their frustrations with the increasingly corporatized and hyper-competitive world of mainstream football. It is an alternative being enjoyed all over the world and a great example that you can still enjoy sports without having to be a capitalist/consumer.
Anarchist football usually takes the form of open, informal pickup games amongst like-minded people and encourage participation from everyone regardless of gender or skill level/experience. Sometimes, people may decide to form teams or leagues and even play in tournaments. No matter what form anarchist football takes, it is never about being too serious or competitive. It is more of a social gathering and a way to get exercise as well as building group skills by working as a team."
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football???
29.10.2003 16:58
oh come off it football???
some anarchist u are
football is just a ruling class thing to get people away from the real things/issues
distract and rule is their motto
anyone who is into football aint an anarchist
and i know the 'its a real working class sport' excuse.......... well its to keep the underclasses down fighting amonst themselves while those bastards (multnationals and their govt lackys) do what they want like pissing on the planet and the people
surly you can come up with better ways of amusing yourself than playing the games the capitalists pass down to you
just think abut it playing football while those fuckers laugh at you
or are you really a far right infiltrator trying to waste peoples time (maybe thats too harsh but those fucks aint stupid i wish they were)
in my humble opinion the only good footballer is a dead one same as the nf/bnp but arnt they the same thing footballers and far right?
(A)
real anarcho
Real anarcho my arse!
29.10.2003 17:27
Shit, but you are. Anarchist football has BUGGER ALL to do with "soccer" as you know it, being completely differently organised.
Try finding out about it before treating us to one of your neanderthal prolier-than-thou rants.
Oh - and by the way, before I died I was a Russian aristocrat. So was Michael Bakunin and Proudhon was a petty-bourgeois businessman.
If you're so Workerist, why aren't you a pure Marxist?
Kropotkin's Ghost
mmmm
29.10.2003 20:11
:Try finding out about it before treating us to one of your neanderthal prolier-than-thou rants.
well i looked at the site and its got some japanese comercial cartoon thats very anarchic
its got the line
Are you an anarchist or interested in anarchist/anti-authoritarian politics and love the game of soccer?
but the way u get interested in soccer is following the big games isnt it and being brainwashed by big buisness to support a major league player who's tickets' cost could feed a family for a couple a days
anyway thats getting away from my point about football
i actually dont mind when men and women play in parks (mostly its ignorant foul mouthed men) and have fun and there is no competition mostly competition promotes agro and ill feeling and if no one keeps scores and people change sides all the time then it is really an anarchistic game
but you dont get that much of that kind of football around
and unfortunatly i dont think that website promotes that kind of play
but i may be wrong (do women play in that league?)
thats my answer to your little comment
PS you should contol your temper a little
(A)
and by the way
:If you're so Workerist, why aren't you a pure Marxist?
i didnt use the word worker as i live in uk and some of the most fascist scum call themselves working class and alot of 'workers' read the likes of the sun which as we all know is a really left paper
really the definitations of working class should be changed when people here (in indy etc)refer to working class they mean people who give a shit or are in the lowest income brackets but in england most so called working class earn a fuck of alot and hate refugees and are racist homophobic bigots. how many copies of the sun and the mirror and the mail are read each day in work?
(refugees and black market workers are the real working class in the uk)
not so real at all
How to Win Friends and Influence People
30.10.2003 13:30
No wonder anarchism is so popular and widely supported!
;-)
It's Football, not 'Soccer'
30.10.2003 14:02
Regarding the role of sports in the working classes etc. football came from the underclass of this island community, it gets used as a manipulator now but the heritage is ours. If you don't think it serves any organising purposes you should really read about the stadiums in the old days of the oppresive communist regimes were the only places of safety were the football crowds. The only dissent possible at times was the booing of the KGB teams who would use the name 'dynamo'. In africa political ideas have long been discussed at the footbal match. Again, safety in numbers.
I suggest you read 'football against the enemy' by simon kuper to discover what football supporters are like worldwide and how football is used by the working classes and how it has allowed certain communities strength in numbers, as well as the obvious joys of watching the talents of gifted players.
It's no wonder we are such a pissy little movement when we come across like party poopers and self-righteous weirdos.
solidarity
Gozer
e-mail: sharkgun@hotmail.com
hmmm
30.10.2003 17:35
FOOTBALL IS FUN. It was not invented by Bill Gates so that you would all go and buy MS OFFICE after you'd been to White Hart Lane for the derby. And an unrelated point(?) the loathing and contempt i pick up from most of you, directed at the bobbies is sod all when you witness hundreds, sometimes thousands of overweight 'working class men/mechanics' fighting them, for no other reason then they've been knocked out of the autoglass windshield north area quarter final.
Someone who likes football.
(The ruling elite of autoglass have insurance rights on my windscreen.)
rapattaque
e-mail: rapattaque@hotmail.com
hhmm
01.11.2003 13:15
So anyone who likes footie is an idiot and all white working class people are overpaid stupid racists?
in my humble opinion it should read
anyone who likes footie is probably a racist and all white working class people who read the Sun are stupid (why else would they read the Sun)
or somthing like that why else dont you get many black and asian at footie games
blah
Football is not an inherently corporate or racist sport.
04.11.2003 20:53
It is sad that you can't even bother to read the website to see what actual anarchists are doing before spouting off some bitter, ignorant remarks.
Check the About page on the Anarchist Football Network website:
"Anarchist Football Network is an online resource for anarchist soccer/football related activities happening around the world. It depends on active participation from its users to be a useful, ongoing resource.
Anarchist football probably developed out of many anarchists' love of the simplicity of football and their frustrations with the increasingly corporatized and hyper-competitive world of mainstream football. It is an alternative being enjoyed all over the world and a great example that you can still enjoy sports without having to be a capitalist/consumer.
Anarchist football usually takes the form of open, informal pickup games amongst like-minded people and encourage participation from everyone regardless of gender or skill level/experience. Sometimes, people may decide to form teams or leagues and even play in tournaments. No matter what form anarchist football takes, it is never about being too serious or competitive. It is more of a social gathering and a way to get exercise as well as building group skills by working as a team."
Footy Mad