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Iraqi weapons of mass destruction found!

Rockwell | 06.10.2003 09:46 | London

David Kay UN weapons inspector says his Iraq Survey Group has uncovered evidence of banned activities which the United Nations and pre-war intelligence had not known about, including 24 clandestine laboratories and four missile programmes.

These findings would have been headline news before the war, he said. He also insisted his report last week to US Congress was interim. "I know we're going to find remarkable things about Iraq's weapons programmes," he said. Mr Kay said his team is still searching through weapon sites thought to have more than 600,000 tons of weaponry in them. In addition a small vial of botulinum toxin has been found. A similar suspect vial of anthrax is being searched for aswell.



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Botulinum B

06.10.2003 10:09

Only blood and oil!

 http://iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=21801〈=en

(Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary in March 2003) "we know that this man [Saddam Hussein] has got ... chemical weapons, biological weapons, viruses, bacilli and ... 10,000 litres of anthrax"

ram


Er, BOtulinium TOXin

06.10.2003 10:17

"a small vial of botulinum toxin"

er, that'd be 'Botox' then. You know the poison women everywhere have all been queuing up to have injected into their foreheads since facelifts went out of fashion.


"it is also looking for a similar vial of anthrax"

Obviously the anthrax used in the US attacks is not an illegal WMD, since the investigation promptly ended when it was discovered to be from a US biowarfare lab. naughty naughty

cosmetic of mass destruction


Not all botulinum toxins are the same

06.10.2003 14:42

Botox is not necessarily the same type of botulinum toxin found in Iraq.

Mind you, Botulism is a fantastically hard thing to turn into a WMD. One vial wouldn't really be enough. You might be able to kill a few people with it but, for instance, you wouldn't have any luck introducing it to the water system as it is easily neutralised in water. Aum Shrinyiko tried to use it on the Japanese underground system with not hugely impressive results (certainly not results that could be classed as mass destruction).

Botulism is a food poisoning so it would be very easy to manufacture 1 vial of it, that doesn't make it weapons grade. There's a few hundred people a year who get botulism in the US from food poisoning. It has a 2% death rate. A lot less scary than, say, a cruise missile.

I find it amusing that there is no longer a defining split between conventional and non-conventional weapons but now between conventional weapons (i.e. anything the US fires at others) and WMD (anything the enemy has that the US wants a monopoly on).

Because a weapon is chemical or biological in nature does not make it a WMD unless it will actually kill loads of people indiscriminately. Daisy Cutters are WMDs if there's enough people standing nearby when they explode.

It's obvious that the US weapons inspectors are clutching at straws and it's probably only a matter of time before they send the LAPD over there to look for the WMDs, what with their long standing experience of planting evidence and lying about it in court...

Afinkawan
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Give it up Rockwell

06.10.2003 15:47



A cartoon in the Torygraph(!) sums it up.

Six months searching and all we have is a tin of tuna well past its sell by date.


Saddam was 95% disarmed by 1998 (IAEA/UNSCOM). all we're finding is the remains of the
5%. and even that's dubious. The Botu Phile could be for other uses.

Meanwhile, what of that other regional holder of WMD's. Bio/Chem/Nuclear: ISRAEL.
When do we disarm them? How about Pakistan & India after that and the rest-ending up
with the biggest holder of all, the good 'ol USA.

GreenLantern


Can you read Wockwell?

06.10.2003 17:33

"David Kay UN weapons inspector says his Iraq Survey Group has uncovered evidence of banned activities...."

You find me a country on this planet that Messrs Kay et al could visit and not find evidence of banned activities. You could make a start at Porton Down.

Now get back to your room you naughty boy.

Rockies Mum


Iraq was in breach of the 1991 Gulf War cease fire terms!

06.10.2003 18:17

Iraq was in breach of the 1991 Gulf War ceasefire terms which were ratified by the UN. These terms ordered Iraq to destroy all chemical, biological and long range missles within two months and not to attempt to produce any more! Therefore even if Iraq had only experimented in trying to produce any of these weapons it was in breach of the conditions and liable to invasion to disarm it!

Rockwell


Try and ignore the pratt!

06.10.2003 18:27

I know Rockwell infuriates people when he spouts their crap on here, but try to ignore the idiots posts, only responding makes him worse, he's obviously deranged or worse still works for the government.

Remember this, the more he posts his fantasies, the more of an arsehole he makes of himself.

Just concentrate on Bush's visit and now were gonna fuck it!

Stuey
mail e-mail: stuey@surfanytime.co.uk