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nick watson | 28.09.2003 19:07

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Yes America is a rogue state isn't it?

29.09.2003 11:46

Yes America is a rogue state isn't it. Because America is a democray, because America respects human rights, because America is at the forefront of the fight against international terrorism, because America has a free press, free trade unions and treats all its citizens equally regardless of race clour or creed, because America stands for freedom, liberty, peace and justice. Wake up fools!

Rockwell


No.

29.09.2003 12:09

America is not a democracy. If it was, Al Gore would currently be president, since he got more votes than George W Bush.

America does not respect human rights. It is currently interning a number of people in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba in conditions which are entirely inconsistent with international standards for the treatment of detainees, denying them both the rights of criminal suspects AND the rights of prisoners of war.

America has also supported, and continues to support, numerous tyrannical regimes around the world in which torture, "disappearance", extrajudicial execution and other violations of human rights are widespread.

Z


Yes it is a democracy and yes it does support freedom!

29.09.2003 12:21

America most definitly is a democracy and all your alegations are inacurate. It is a democracy because the president is accountable to Congress and members of Congress are accountable to the people.

It has not directly ever supported tyrannical regimes. America was forced during the cold war to make decisions about which countries it made alliances with because of hostility to America from Russia and its allies. Hence it moderate support to anti-Soviet governments who could help it in a mutal defence programme against Soviet aggression. Hence its closing ranks with Cuba because of Cuba's links with the Soviets and Soviet intellegence. Hence alliance with South Vietnam and South Korea to prevent Soviet expansion and global domination.

America never supported Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden. Osama bin Laden built up Al Qaeda with his vast wealth he inherited from his families construction business. Help and support from the USA was negligable and was only in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

Saddam Hussein came to power by his own efforts.

Rockwell


Rockwell never presents facts

29.09.2003 13:05

He just makes unfounded assertions! Frequently with unnecessary exclamation marks! Like an arsehole!

Rockwell has never realised that just 'cos someone says something doesn't necessarily make it true.

If America told him to jump off a cliff he probably would.

Twat.

Pravda


afghan extremists

29.09.2003 15:29

Rockwell the american strategic guys have admitted that they gave the aid to islamic fundamentalists 6 months BEFORE the soviet invasion. 500million to begin with-hardly negligble. They did more than that also, they got their allies to fund it, and they recruited and trained islamic extremists. And since when have cia-sponsored death squads protected human rights? And billions of dollars and arms to repress the population to numerous dictatorships is not moderate support.

afdaf


Nice picture.

29.09.2003 15:55

"Yes America is a rogue state isn't it." That's true, well spotted.

"Because America is a democray" Ah, so that's why GWB is president, because more people voted for him than the other guy.....

"because America respects human rights" I'm sure Amnesty International would agree whole-heartedly with you there.

"because America is at the forefront of the fight against international terrorism" Because America's selfish foregin policy put it the forefront of terrorism targets.

"because America has a free press" Free to print only what they're allowed to print. Or are you suggesting that each American city has several newspapers, each likely to print opinions from different sides of the fence...?

"and treats all its citizens equally regardless of race clour or creed" erm...surely there can't be a single person on the planet who actually believes that! Obviously there wasn't a single legitimate black voter who had their vote taken away from them in case they voted for Gore.

"because America stands for freedom, liberty, peace and justice" Ah, those good old 'inalienable rights'. Hmmm...how can they be inalienable if they can be taken away? I'm not sure anybody on death row feels particularly pleased at their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I guess all that flag saluting brainwashing really DOES work!

Afinkawan
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So Rockwell

30.09.2003 16:22

"treats all its citizens equally regardless of race clour or creed"

Is that the BNP's position now, as you seem to enjoy being a proud member of a neo-nazi party I wouldnt share that with your Kamerads.

Sonic


up yours, rocky

30.09.2003 20:01

Rockwell, you pathetic idiot...

have you lived under a stone all your days?

the list of ruthless tyrants supported by the US is endless. without even racking one's brain, some major names pop up, such as Doc Duvalier (Haiti), Christiani (El Salvador), Shah of Iran, Ferdinand Marcos (Phillipines), Augusto Pinochet (Chile), Fulgencio Batista (Cuba), Hissein Habre (Chad), Idi Amin (Uganda), Ngo Dign Diem (Vietnam), Sese Seko Mobutu (Zaire), Manuel Noriega (Panama) Pol Pot (Cambodia), Somoza (Nicaragua), Suharto (Indonesia), Zia Ul-Haq (Pakistan), not to mention Saddam Hessein.

but the list is a hell of a lot longer than that, and the ruthlessness with which each of these fiends oppressed their own peoples, while the US looked the other way and pulled the strings of "geopolitik" is horrific.

stuffed shirt worms like you, rockwell, had better get this straight: the time for creation and knocking down of tyrannical fascists as a sort of "game" is OVER!!!

The people of this planet have collectively had enough of this crap!!!

If you are clinging to the coat-tails of cut-throat fascists don't expect us to pity you when the tide turns...

barkley
- Homepage: http://www.rrojasdatabank.org/dictatrs.htm


Rockwell

28.01.2007 11:22

That was some truly stupid shit you wrote.

DJEB