Gandhi with his spinning wheel and rampant lust for frugal living
Was a hit with the Hindu's
Yet he was shot Dead in the house on the hill in Pune ,maharstra state India,whilst in a british run prison......
Pune was the home of the British "Raj" in other words the pilferers perverts and thieves who under the guise of "Humanitarian aims" systematically plundered India of much of it's mineral wealth,namely the "Kohinoor Diamond" which the English Reptile Queen's sadistic family of child rapists and murderers stole from The Tenth Sikh Guru ,Guru Gobind Singh....Who said "When all other methods fail and there is no alternative,then use your sword bring closure the issue"......
So instead of whingeing like a black ex-slavery victim,who has no guts to stand up to a deeply cowardly Opposition,take a firm stance use your brain to get rid of this threat in your community........It makes me sick because balcks are always griping about "Police Harassment" but they fail to understand that hidden orders from the backsliding freemasons
are the actual cause of this.........I am not saying for you to be violent......But check out www.davidicke.com and check out what really goes on in "british society"......
You need to stop thinking like Black Ex-Slavery victims,because your collective victim mentality is attracting or create this "police harassment".....
You believe deep down that you are the victim in the white ex-slave masters world,so the more you beleive in this victim role then the more strentgh you give to the "master"....
If you had the total guts and total honesty to face your own warped perception of the world and how this mass negative balck community thought manifests itself as ultra negative reality.....You will need to change your own misguided negative world view and low opinion of yourself....and remember you cannot change the outer world by whingeing ,protesting etc .....The only way you can change the outer world that you are complaining about is to change your fucked up inner world which is manifesting in this negative reality.....
I am also genetically "black" but I tell you that no police officer would ever dare harass me or "raid" my local community centre,because I feel 200% ultra postive about myself inside and secondly I do not hang on to any extremely negative and harmful thought forms that "the police are out to get me because I'm black".......
You fail to see that your thoughts create your immediate reality.....
And when you change your inner reality thoughts your outer world and circumstances prevailing as such shift....
And black people and others around the world have fell into the illuminati mind control game of fulfilling variously similair roles of victim,hate crime victim,protestor....
learn how to fight,and the first step to adequate self defence is taking control of your mind and your cunningly implanted belief systems....which you think are "you" BUT "they" deliberately implanted......And then you're forced into the stereotypical angry black ex-slavery victim,so you smoke loads of pot and also crack to anaesthetise your imagined past life trauma or pain ,and lo and behold the police are on your doorstep.....
Remember that it takes two to tango....
And until we are prepared to accept take total responsability for the kind of life negative belief systems that we cling to,then how can we change???

I think that this is a typical abuse of power by Merseyside Police and the notorious OSG -Operational Support Group(Formally the OSD - Operational Support Division). Merseyside Police should remember what spaked the Toxteth Riots back in 1981, aggressive policing coupled with growing unemployment, now the same tactics are being applied and the summer looks like a hot one!

Doug

What a pile of hippy crap that mr bollock is talking. What it didn't really happen - over a thousand black people have not really died in police cusody over the last 30 years? ( probably more) if they would have thought differenetly the day they got picked up, then the racist, bigoted cops would never have picked on them. It takes two to tango ( woooo what an orginal thought). I think we have to respond in a way that best suits us, and not respond how they want us to. But really.

Has Racism Improved within the Police Service .

There are various conflicting political mythologies about policing which have bedevilled debate . The ‘law and order myth’ suggests an image of the police being an effective element for the fighting of crime and of preventing crime. It also stresses that police power is the panacea for the enforcement of law.This is all well and good, however , policing is much more than this. It is the empowerment of a group within society that allows for them to commit acts which one could argue gives them absolute power to corrupt, if through that particular culture they abuse a system that places them above the law. The police service do not form part of the economics of any society, they do not manufacture or construct, they merely , control. The role of the police is simply controlling through fear. I say fear, as too many within society actually do fear the knock on the door from the police, they do fear the presence of the police in their homes and yes , they do fear that they will be arrested for committing or attempting to commit a crime. Strong words I hear you say, well not really, the evidence is clear and extremely valid, and as part of my research into policing the future revealed it is totally breathtaking. Volunteers from all 43 forces within England and Wales took part in the paper and I asked them to be totally honest and answer as they wanted too , not , as they had been told too. I did not inform them that I was once a serving member of the police service as I thought this may result in some answers being cynical. If we look at the arresting and detaining of a member of the public, it is necessary to address and observe all of the actions which brought about the commissioning of the arrest, this information is vital, Here is usually were conflicting evidence is first seen from all sides. It becomes imperative to gather evidence that will prove either guilt or innocence. Some reading this will immediately pick-up on the fact I mentioned guilt before innocence in my aforementioned statement, well, that was intentional. It is a myth to believe that one is presumed innocent until otherwise proven. The police are not in the slightest interested if you did or did not commit the alleged criminal act they have arrested you for, that is not their remit. They merely seek to control crime by effective figure management. If they stop and search one hundred people they will find some items upon a person that would justify the initial illegal action, and it would be fair to say that, until Macpherson, the police were literally creating crime through illegality, and getting away with it due to the inefficient and sometimes inept legal representation the alleged offender had received at the police station. Due to cop culture which legitimises actions the police use to abuse the system of judicial process, they are able to create the illusion of guilt to the crown prosecution service whom are supposed to be an independent body of qualified persons who assess the legality of a charge. The police admission that the black community was being discriminated against by officers who saw them as easy pickings, was the perfect opportunity for the CPS to come clean and state they too had failed the black community, but the crown prosecution service failed to even make a comment on the cases that prior to Macpherson had been judged and tried. In doing so they lost in my opinion complete credibility, because if cases had been tried and indeed persons had been convicted then the conviction was unsafe due to, in many cases the initial illegal act committed by the illegal stop and search. This would place the CPS in jeopardy of collapse due to the permitting of criminal activity by police officers throughout all 43 forces .To date they still have not made any suggestion that some people within our community had been and still are being convicted on grounds of illegality by arresting officers. The Crown Prosecution Service are not the independent body the public believe. They are a body of perons who read files the police construct in order to hold that person to account. By the very nature of control the police can and do recommend the action they would like to see when committing these files for perusal. The issue of independence is only really aired when a case collapses as with the trial of Paul Burrell and subsequently another royal butler. However this has been an issue within criminal justice for many years. All too often the CPS perpetuate criminality within the police service by failure to read files in the initial process of disclosure. Many cases are fundamentally flawed and should not be tried , yet, due to lack of government funding the CPS is constantly stretching itself and is in real danger of imploding with its burgeoning caseload. Some may argue that , the burgeoning caseload is due to the oppressive nature of policing in the 21st century, and to some degree this is correct, but others will argue that ,the burgeoning caseload is simply due to ineptness on the side of the CPS which , cannot seem to separate itself from the police service and its corrupt and cop culture habits. Lets be honest old habits are hard to kick and whilst we continue to allow police officers to commit acts of illegality in order to establish someone’s guilt then miscarriages of justice will happen.

Many police officers do not see themselves as racist, which is in complete contrast to the voices of senior officers. Evidence is clear , some officers are indeed racist just as they are mysogenic and bigoted, after all they are drawn from the very society they are policing, what is not clear though is how deep rooted the issues of racism affects the ability to police, and why are the police service still not listening to the ethnic communities they have discriminated against for so long. I came into contact with one officer from Merseyside Police whose ‘off the record’ comments astounded me. His displays of extreme right wing rhetoric was appalling and would indeed affect his ability to police the ethnic communities within which he would come into contact with. “I wont salute a nigger” was one such phrase I overheard. His colleagues laughed as some commented “I’d fucking resign first” Incidentally he was promoted to sergeant shortly afterwards and is currently serving at a Wirral Station. I discovered that many police officers still held such views and believed that the Black community were responsible for an increase in street robberies and drug dealing. I also came into contact with an officer from the Metropolitan Police force whose job is to travel the country promoting racial diversity within the service, yet he fully admitted to”hate Jews since he was a child” and have a pathological hatred of “Pig eating Christians”. He saw Asians as “Fucking corrupt”.... what was more surprising is in fact he is not white , he is the son of Afghanistan refugees who came to Britain , They have since returned to Pakistan and have not spoken to him because he “married a Christian woman” of whom he says he “cannot stand the fucking site of”...With such levels of hatred within the service still apparent it is hardly surprising that many communities have not seen any improvement in attitudes from police officers, and this can only have a detrimental effect upon society and cohesion between the police and its public.Unfortunately the CPS perpetuate this mistrust as they cannot seem to accept that they need to be seen as acting totally and absolutely independently of a Police service that is currently failing all communities greatly.

Karen Clark Stapleton

The importance of police behaviour when making arrests, does poor attitude cause crime?

Much evidence exists were the character of the person the police arrest is laid bare, however not much evidence exists or indeed empirical research exist that examine the role the officer played when making the arrest and indeed whether his attitude was the explosive factor during this interaction with the public. In fact we are going to examine the decision to make arrest and why the need for this is paramount in order to prevent a division from police and its public which in UK may have already commenced.
Many of the research studies which have examined police decisions to arrest suspected offenders have tended to concentrate on detailed analyses of the characteristics of the persons arrested compared with those whom no formal action is taken by the police, and on the personal interaction which surrounds the arrest decision, alternatively other studies have focussed on the organisational and occupational pressures upon the police to exercise their arrest discretion according to certain expectations, however we are aiming to re-address that imbalance and clarify how police behaviour is leading to arrests which will undoubtedly cause a division between the police and its public.
Skolnick (1966) found that during his research that the highest proportion of respondents(39%) gave ‘disrespectful behaviour’ as the reason for force being thought to be necessary in the arrest situation, directed particularly against the ‘ wise-guy’ who thinks he knows more than the officer, who talks back or insults the policeman. This is an important factor when considering rising crime figures because we must examine whether crime is actually rising or is it merely the police have lost their way and feel impotent, therefore they are making arrests which in reality should not be occuring. An argument relative to this would validate the claim that police are creating crime .Many arrests occur in the heat of a situation in which tempers are flared and as police officers are drawn from the society they police they are as susceptible to this as any other member of society, however this creates an imbalance set firmly against the citizen. The police officers flared temper will not result in his or her arrest , the citizen wont have any redress , this is simply injust. Controlling any situation is paramount to settle and prevent any further possibility of a disturbance. In order to maintain control the role of the police is constantly being assessed and any imbalances found are counteracted, well thats what we would all like to believe . Assuming that police control and authority have been established in a particular situation , to what extent is there a secondary handling problem of what to do next? This is were many arrests occur, all seems quiet, but a simple misjudged statement made by the officer directed wrongly or thoughtlessly towards the suspected offender then interpreted incorrectly will undoubtedly lead to an arrest. The arrest is usually for Breach of the Peace or assaulting a constable in the exectution of his duty. No officer has been touched in reality but that is not important at this stage, what is more important is that the officer has gained respect (if even in his eyes only) and he has gained control. His power has been firmly established, and when he gets back to his colleagues he is once again a man amongst men. Unfortunately this will have a lasting effect upon community relations and how the public see the role of policing within its community. To maintain excellent community relations the police need to be constantly aware of the attitudes they are expressing whilst in contact with the public. if they are constantly abusing this and arresting merely because the officer was unable to be dominant then respect will not be given freely and in fact the police will have to work to earn the same.

The importance of police behaviour when making arrests, does poor attitude cause crime and is there a necessity for mandatory drug testing of all police officers?

Much evidence exists were the character of the person the police arrest is laid bare, however not much evidence exists or indeed empirical research exist that examine the role the officer played when making the arrest and indeed whether his attitude was the explosive factor during this interaction with the public. In fact we are going to examine the decision to make arrest and why the need for this is paramount in order to prevent a division from police and its public which in UK may have already commenced.
Many of the research studies which have examined police decisions to arrest suspected offenders have tended to concentrate on detailed analyses of the characteristics of the persons arrested compared with those whom no formal action is taken by the police, and on the personal interaction which surrounds the arrest decision, alternatively other studies have focused on the organisational and occupational pressures upon the police to exercise their arrest discretion according to certain expectations, however we are aiming to re-address that imbalance and clarify how police behaviour is leading to arrests which will undoubtedly cause a division between the police and its public.

Skolnick (1966) found that during his research that the highest proportion of respondents(39%) gave ‘disrespectful behaviour’ as the reason for force being thought to be necessary in the arrest situation, directed particularly against the ‘ wise-guy’ who thinks he knows more than the officer, who talks back or insults the policeman. This is an important factor when considering rising crime figures because we must examine whether crime is actually rising or is it merely the police have lost their way and feel impotent, and are making arrests which in reality should not be occurring. An argument relative to this would validate the claim that the police are creating crime. Many arrests occur in the heat of a situation in which tempers are flared and as police officers are drawn from within the society they police they are as susceptible to this as any other member of society, however this creates an imbalance set firmly against the citizen. The police officers flared temper will not result in his or her arrest , the citizen wont have any redress, this is simply injust. Controlling any situation is paramount to settle and prevent any further possibility of a disturbance. In order to maintain control the role of the police is constantly being assessed and any imbalances or ambiguities found are counteracted, well thats what we would all like to believe, but in reality that is not the case. Assuming that police control and authority has been established in a particular situation , to what extent is there a secondary handling problem of what to do next?,as this is were many arrests occur, all seems quiet, but a simple misjudged statement made by the officer directed wrongly or thoughtlessly towards the suspected offender then a response that may be interpreted incorrectly will undoubtedly lead to an arrest. The arrest is usually for Breach of the Peace or assaulting a constable in the execution of his duty. No officer has been touched in reality but that is not important at this stage, what is more important is that the officer has gained respect (if even in his or her eyes only) and has gained control, or have they? Although power and control has been firmly re-established at this point is it maintainable and to what extent will his or her actions have both within the community with the officer and the future actions he or she will face, after all they too state clearly they are very much affected by stress. But in reality this type of stress is easily preventable and avoidable, as generally it has been solely the actions and in most cases the reactions which may result in the illegality of the actual arrest procedures that resulted in this situation, thus for many months the officer will suffer levels of stress related to the affects of his or her wrongful decision, and so easily avoidable. Quite often here I cannot help to remind myself of a certain phrase which struck a chord whilst investigating and researching policing and that was a simple line which appeared in the film Forest Gump, this related to many incidents I have witnessed and been told about during this research “Stupid is as stupid does” how very poignant ! To maintain excellent community relations the police need to be constantly aware of the attitudes they are expressing whilst in contact with the public. if they are repeatedly abusing this and arresting merely because the officer was unable to be dominant then respect will not be given freely and in fact the police will have to work to earn the same. If we compare the Guard outside Buckingham Palace who at times has to endure ridicule, berating and even common assaults then if he or she manages to restrain themselves why is it the police have a real difficulty in doing so. After observing many officers from both within the service and as a member of the public I noticed that many are reactive not proactive, they feel that we should respect the officer at all times even if the actions and attitudes being displayed are quite frankly intolerable.Once again it comes down to ‘cop-culture’ which eats away at the very heart of policing. The patrol officer who attends incidents in the community tends to perform a quasi-judicial role not unlike the magistrate, he makes a judgment without the necessary qualification to do so , his use of discretion is in many cases quite wrong, quite the same is the custody sergeant whose primary job is to assess whether a charge is acceptable similar to that of the examining magistrate as seen on the continent. It is fair to say that the police cannot enforce all the laws all of the time, but they can enforce the laws on an even keel. It is not good enough to say “I didn’t like the offender treating me like that” that is not justification for an arrest and will have little impact on crime, but it will ensure that an arrest is effected and that it will result in a clear up of that offence and thus the figures in the books balance, hardly prevention of crime more like creating crime in order to maintain a good set of books. Unfortunately most forces operate in this way.

If we move on to a point which will address whether it has become necessary to randomly test all police officers for the use of drugs whilst on duty then community policing becomes a relevant start point. Evidence suggests that 25% of the population have or are taking some form of drug , we are not going to distinguish between classes as this in reality merely blurs a situation that allows for excuses. Police officers as we have previously mentioned are drawn from the society within which they police, they are as susceptible as each of us to perform within the boundaries of the community, and therefore they will use drugs , tobacco , alcohol and sex at the same rates as any member of society. Here is were the need for distinction must occur. A police officer whilst on duty not a member of the public per se, he or she is allowed in law to rise above the simplistics of society and that is a necessity in order to maintain control and order. However, as technology improves and more legislation is passed that do not allow for the public to drive vehicles whilst being under the influence of drugs and facing a road side drugs test at the whim of a police constable in uniform, then the issue of mandatory drug testing of police officers become paramount. The prison service test offenders and also prison officers with what is termed a barringer drug test machine and urinary sampling, it uses the same technology as the roadside machines currently being tested . This machine does pick up on all forms of drug via a simple swab of the palm, but it is flawed in its usage, it also registers contamination from other sources such as bank notes , glasses in bars the list is endless. I have seen grandmothers in there nineties testing positive for cocaine and opium , they have been refused a visit with their relative in prison due to this contaminant found on the hand and on clothing they are wearing. With this occurring then it is an area of great concern. Police Officers use drugs this is a fact, to what extent nobody can be certain as they are not and have no mandate to test officers. The legality of roadside tests raises concern when it is clear that some form of cross contamination will occur. The Bank of England state that 20% of all bank notes currently in circulation are contaminated with some form of narcotic. When Police Officers search alleged offenders at the roadside they in general do not use gloves, they are merely trying to ascertain whether a weapon can be found so “rub-down”if that officer has used drugs and the effects are being secreted through sweat then cross contamination will occur. The simple fact of undressing will then contaminate the hands of the alleged offender. A vicious circle for many within the criminal justice system. Considering this it will become a matter of logistics as too how many criminals will be produced merely by inadequate police procedures . Once again we can see that the police will be creating crime not detecting it or clearing it up!, and to rid itself of the headaches of legal action all they need to do is test police officers using independent bodies. Otherwise it may lead to corruption by officers whose habits would undoubtedly result in a dismissal from a very well paid job. For any Chief Constable to state his or her officers do not use drugs would simply be a lie and so would it not be a positive recommendation for the Home Office to regulate poor procedure by having mandatory drug testing of all police officers. The police are not above the law , they are part of it the sooner they realise this, the reality of malpractice , corruption, ill discipline. poor leadership can be addressed. It goes without saying that the Police Federation and ACPO will be totally against this , what they need to consider is this scenario....
A police officer is called to a house , a noise can be heard. The officer hears a male shouting, and a female screaming “Hes got a gun”. The officer had taken a line of cocaine prior to coming on duty, just to get him or her through that dreaded night shift. He is armed with CS gas and a truncheon, his adrenaline is rushing, he cannot hear the TV on, the female shouts “OH NO”. The male says “Die Fucker Die” The officer rushes inside the house , he draws his CS gas and his truncheon, he bludgeons the male, the woman screams at him “What are you doing get off him” The officers is in total panic he attacks the female shouting “Get Down you stupid bitch” . Realistically the couple were watching a film, they had had a glass of beer, the film was rather good, but due to the influence of a drug the officer misinterpreted the situation. Unfortunately the male has a thin skull and is dead. The woman , his wife is pregnant with five other children.Imagine the scenario with a fast resonse police car ! Wouldn’t you rather see the mandatory testing of all police officers ?

Many police officers currently take some form of drug, these range from anabolic steroids used in gyms to cocaine to ‘poppers’ to cannabis. They do it during their days off, they do it whilst at the bars in police stations they do it just like everyone else, realistically though they are less likely to be charged with possession merely due to ‘cop -culture’ and this is wrong. Effective policing must start with effective management of a police service, this will involve some harsh reality that the police are not above the law and must learn to live with it , both in application and adherence. I look forward to the mandatory testing of all officers on a regular basis . Respect demands respect but this requires humility, something the service is devoid of .

As such I do not recognise the massively fear induced thought form known as "the law"
I joke and take the piss alot in my hippy wafflings,but to my knowledge love is where it's at,and if we love ourselves then we stop allowing ourselves to be mind programmed and routinely bowing down to non-existent power structures like the police,it really is about embracing love totally,and if that means beating up Police Officers on drugs in self defence then that is perfectly acceptable.....We must be careful to avoid calling ourselves Hippys and remember that bullys will always cower and back down if you give them a good beating,so why are you Blacks so scared of Police because I am balck and also with you in uour pain but I'm not against beating the crap out of a bullying cop,that is my right as a free citizen in love of this world....I have had to defend myself once or twice against wankers on power trips on drugs and in uniforms and I promise you that a REALLY GOOD BEATING is honestly all it takes to get rid of any bully ...it is that simple..so can;t you balcks stop whingeing and get on with the necessary but no you're too scared aren't you ???but take it from me a REALLY GOOD BEATING is all it takes to get rid of bully if all else fails...try it and see...I can't see what it is you're all so afraid of just get together and take control of your lives instead of handing over your power to others who couldn't give a toss about you.....
You see i have never been afraid of police and have always resorted to violence if they get out of hand,that is what we all must do instead of whingeing and instead of going through the obviously Racist Bigoted British "Justice" system........
I am not saying to go out there and pick fights with police officers here,but look standard human pshycology dictates that if you stand up to a bully they will back down....
So stop being afraid and gather your resources,aren't you just a little bit fed up of this pale culture playing headgames with you.....
If the British Justice system is clearly flawed with bigots and why don't you just be a little courageous and fight...
that is what I meant with the little anecdote of Gandhi and his Spinning Wheel....
That he preached non-violent protest his whole life,but in the end it was the British Govt who shot him........
Now I'm not saying that we should start walking barefeet and singing hare krishna etc but look if you are already aware that this British justice syatem and it's police force is inherently racist and full of durgged out bullies and lunatics/pedophiles etc then why in life and liberties name will you not see that arguing for fair treatment from this self same corrupt system is absolutely and utterly pointless....
So go ahead and allow them to create a global prison for us all if you want .....or stop whingeing and be serious about creating cinstructive ways to remove this threat that you have....
I am not against non-violent protest ...but if all else fails and the fascist drugged up bully boys are still beating you up,falsely charging you and killing your family members then what will you consider actually doing instead of begging for help and charity from diehard bigots and fascists.....
If you are happy going through the fascist CPS then good luck with banging your head against a brick wall...but remember when Micahel calvert the then head of the CPS admitted that the CPS is "instituionally racist"
now if that isn't a pointer for you I don't know what is

if anyone seriously believes bollock chops then i feel sorry for you.
we all know that the police force throughout the united kingdom is a racist and downright
impossible institution to beat. if any of you think that by a return to a violent past of riots and anarchy is the way forward then you are seriously mistaken.
just think if we go down that road, as we stand in front of a highly charged drugged up bastien of the law in his full riot gear fully equipped with the best equipment while you stand there with a brick in your hand do you really think bollock chops will pop up in front of you to spread a little of his hippy love and solve the problem? i don't think you would see his arse for dust do you? the way forward is to put political pressure on those with the power to reform and educate those in possession of the power of the law.

The police have attacked the black community before: In terms of dealing with this, the only way was that they defend themselves (in 1981 as in the 30's or 1775 for all u. care 'Bollox), It was a police riot, and next time it happens they'll get their ases kicked same like last time (and the time before). Whether we see Paul's or Bollox's "ass for dust" or not (prefarably not)!

If you want to "Educate" Blunkett/police -like' by showing them they're wrong....
well you can 'try' -but I'dd suggest you go to the beach instead.
-All Power To The Peaple!-

And Bollox_ -get lost you whining f***ing panzer of a lizzard.

as someone once said; the only defence against tyranny is a well-armed population.

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just think if we go down that road, as we stand in front of a highly charged drugged up bastien of the law in his full riot gear fully equipped with the best equipment while you stand there with a brick in your hand do you really think bollock chops will pop up in front of you to spread a little of his hippy love and solve the problem? i don't think you would see his arse for dust do you?
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I am very sorry to hear about the Caribbean Community Centre raid, it is a disgrace. Is it any wonder people here have disdain and hatred for the police.

be on your toes and know your rights, we have been stopped a few times and told we were being searched under Section 63 i think it was, anyway i later found out that Section(63?) hadnt been invoked and the police had lied to us. know your rights and use them.

these police scum need to have thier asses kicked once in awhile to understand the problems faced by us walking the street mindinding our own bussiness when blam theres 4 or 5 of the steriod charged lunitics wanting to have a pop at you
look at the numbers of people in toxteth to the number of police
you know what i mean if we have to im sure we would fight all the way
the police are in the minority here not us

I think that this is a great way to inform people on the happenings in the community. But before you reveal your findings for such important issues, Please proof read. There are so many typographical errors it makes it harder for the reader to follow and your point gets lost.

This is typical of the Merseyside police. I was racially abused by the police. I was persecuted. I have a police complaint but it truly doesn't seem like anyone is interested in the truth. The constable violated data protection and not only disclosed confidential information but lied to my university. And as a result, the university acted strongly against me. The repercussion are still being felt. Justice is not available for everyone in England!

o my god i cannot belive you people, i am soon going to join merseyside police as a special constible and i cannot belive what i am reading hear. you want to no what my opinion is you lot are as bad as racist police officers. you sit behind your computer and type all this rubbish about all of merseyside police being racist and drug addicts, im going to be a cop soon and im not racist at all and i would not want to know anyone who is. i would never ever even think about abusing my powers as a police officer or take drugs. yes i am the first to admit the history of the police and race issues is not very good at all but times are changing and u lot dont seem to be noticing that. there is always going to be an element of racism were ever you go and cops that will abuse ther power but this is becoming very rare now. you sit there and moan about the police doing this an that always putting it down to the fact that there racist or buleys when it could never ever be the fact that there just doing there job and u dont like it. or you have actualy bin in the rong and you dont want to admit it. all this crap about they sealed off around toxteth just for no reason, no it had nothing to do that toxteth is one of the major drug crime areas on merseyside dus it now. you also say you would fight police officers and beat them up, in my opinion this makes you exactly the same kind of scum that racist police officers are. so what your just goin to go round beating up cops when they havnt done anything to you. hat if it was me patroling on foot and i stop you for a perfectly legitimate reason i am not racisist or abusing my power, are you going to beat me up then, what about al the young officers coming in who havnt done anything who jus want to help make a diffrence are you going to beat them up to. i am not saying that yopu havnt had bad experiances with the police but what i am saying is that the idea to hate the hole force is just stupid, the fact is the job is hard enough alredy without bieng labeled an automatic racist and bully for nothing. i would like to see many of you try and do the job an then you will see it from a totaly diffrent perspective, so insted of moaning or threatening to assult police officers do sumthing good about it, help the police stamp out racism get involved with your community work. i would also like to note that these are my perssonnal views i do not speak on behaif of the force in any way.

Well, well, well. Once again the Southend of Liverpool is up in arms regarding 'some police activity'. Like yoiu are able to look after yourselves inthat part of our fair city!

I know that there has been a great deal of bad publicity surrounding the OSD but come on, they are the ONLY effective police department in Merseyside. Ask Hogan-Howe.

whilst i was in mersybank bail hostel on arrival i was told by some of the lads and also the staff about the osd and how they were bad bastards they are as to how fitting u up with tag bags or screwdriver I had come from west yorkshire where the police were a bit hea8y handed but all i come across seemed more or less straight so when I heard these tales of the osd to b just myth that is till it happened to me and a lad from mersybank as we walked down the dock rd i have never seen such a blatent abuse of power needless to say we both ended up in the back of the van where as i had no convictions for theft it was my mate who took the screwy or we both b nicked for attempt burg i was in shock he was charged with going equipped I was not charged with anything but held till he'd given a statement of which they dictated he said they also told him to give his fathers address rather than merseybank so he'd get bail once he'd signed his statement he was told this was for the things he'd not bn nicked for . i swear on my sons life this is exactly what happened .

The original poster is DAN , I merely have replied to his rant !