Israel's victory was retaining its moderation in midst of war
Haaretz | 10.07.2003 07:09
No, we did not win the war of terror that the Palestinians declared against us. They did not surrender and we are not celebrating our victory over them. On the contrary - the fears of a renewed outbreak of terrorism are as great as the chances of ending the conflict are small. But there is a partial respite, and Israel has always known how to get stronger during respites.
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Israel's victory was retaining its moderation in midst of war
By Amnon Rubinstein
No, we did not win the war of terror that the Palestinians declared against us. They did not surrender and we are not celebrating our victory over them. On the contrary - the fears of a renewed outbreak of terrorism are as great as the chances of ending the conflict are small. But there is a partial respite, and Israel has always known how to get stronger during respites.
No, we did not win. But Yasser Arafat lost. Before he launched the war, he was a recognized international leader. Today, he is leading the opposition to the agreements that he signed. Granted, he is worshiped on the Palestinian street, but the Arab world is full of dictators who impoverished their people.
No, we did not win, but Arafat failed in his double plan: to break our spirit so that he could impose a South Lebanon-style withdrawal on us, and to bring about the internationalization of the conflict and the dispatch of foreign troops to our borders.
Arafat received no help in his war from the Arab states. Jordan and Egypt recalled their ambassadors from Israel, but did not bother to come to his assistance. Israel's status was damaged in European public opinion, but the European Union did not propose sending troops here. In the United States, Arafat is irrelevant, and Russia is not helping him either.
No, we did not win, but Israeli society - to the surprise of many - proved wondrously resilient. Israel's achievement in this war is unique. In a situation of indiscriminate terror against civilians and intolerably difficult military service in the territories, the state allowed its citizens to leave the country. Even veteran democracies have forbidden their citizens to leave their borders during war or to take their currency out of the state. In Israel, both civilians and reservists can escape from the danger for the price of a plane ticket. Yet despite this, people did not flee the country and call-ups of the reserves were not impaired. No other state has ever experienced this phenomenon: hell at home and the door wide open, but nobody uses it.
Israeli society passed another test, no less important. Despite the terrorism, despite the help that a few Israeli Arabs gave the terrorists, despite the venomous provocations of Arab Knesset members, no ethnic riots erupted here, as they did in Northern Ireland and the former Yugoslavia. Nor did shocking acts occur like those in France - where, although there were no terror acts, Arab passersby were murdered a few years ago and their bodies were either thrown into the Seine or thrown from trains. Granted, there was also a grave incident here, in which police killed Israeli Arabs during the October 2000 riots, but this was different in essence from ethnic riots, and an inquiry commission was set up to investigate it.
Moreover, although violence and terror usually lead to a right-wing radicalization, in Israel the opposite took place. In Belgium, Austria, France and Holland, right-wing parties became stronger because of their objection to Muslim immigrants, although these states did not suffer from terrorism. In Israel, however, in the midst of acts of murder and anti-Semitic Arab incitement, the Herut Party of Michael Kleiner and Baruch Marzel did not manage to cross the low electoral threshold of 1.5 percent, while the National Union-Yisrael Beiteinu Party, which expected a big success, lost a seat. The public voted en masse for the Likud, but only after the prime minister announced his support for "painful concessions" and the establishment of a Palestinian state. The Likud adjusted itself to a public opinion that had become more moderate.
In what democratic state could such a process take place during war? This is why one could say that in the deepest sense of the word, Israel did win - because during three years of ongoing nightmare, it demonstrated both resilience and political moderation.
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Last update - 05:05 10/07/2003
Israel's victory was retaining its moderation in midst of war
By Amnon Rubinstein
No, we did not win the war of terror that the Palestinians declared against us. They did not surrender and we are not celebrating our victory over them. On the contrary - the fears of a renewed outbreak of terrorism are as great as the chances of ending the conflict are small. But there is a partial respite, and Israel has always known how to get stronger during respites.
No, we did not win. But Yasser Arafat lost. Before he launched the war, he was a recognized international leader. Today, he is leading the opposition to the agreements that he signed. Granted, he is worshiped on the Palestinian street, but the Arab world is full of dictators who impoverished their people.
No, we did not win, but Arafat failed in his double plan: to break our spirit so that he could impose a South Lebanon-style withdrawal on us, and to bring about the internationalization of the conflict and the dispatch of foreign troops to our borders.
Arafat received no help in his war from the Arab states. Jordan and Egypt recalled their ambassadors from Israel, but did not bother to come to his assistance. Israel's status was damaged in European public opinion, but the European Union did not propose sending troops here. In the United States, Arafat is irrelevant, and Russia is not helping him either.
No, we did not win, but Israeli society - to the surprise of many - proved wondrously resilient. Israel's achievement in this war is unique. In a situation of indiscriminate terror against civilians and intolerably difficult military service in the territories, the state allowed its citizens to leave the country. Even veteran democracies have forbidden their citizens to leave their borders during war or to take their currency out of the state. In Israel, both civilians and reservists can escape from the danger for the price of a plane ticket. Yet despite this, people did not flee the country and call-ups of the reserves were not impaired. No other state has ever experienced this phenomenon: hell at home and the door wide open, but nobody uses it.
Israeli society passed another test, no less important. Despite the terrorism, despite the help that a few Israeli Arabs gave the terrorists, despite the venomous provocations of Arab Knesset members, no ethnic riots erupted here, as they did in Northern Ireland and the former Yugoslavia. Nor did shocking acts occur like those in France - where, although there were no terror acts, Arab passersby were murdered a few years ago and their bodies were either thrown into the Seine or thrown from trains. Granted, there was also a grave incident here, in which police killed Israeli Arabs during the October 2000 riots, but this was different in essence from ethnic riots, and an inquiry commission was set up to investigate it.
Moreover, although violence and terror usually lead to a right-wing radicalization, in Israel the opposite took place. In Belgium, Austria, France and Holland, right-wing parties became stronger because of their objection to Muslim immigrants, although these states did not suffer from terrorism. In Israel, however, in the midst of acts of murder and anti-Semitic Arab incitement, the Herut Party of Michael Kleiner and Baruch Marzel did not manage to cross the low electoral threshold of 1.5 percent, while the National Union-Yisrael Beiteinu Party, which expected a big success, lost a seat. The public voted en masse for the Likud, but only after the prime minister announced his support for "painful concessions" and the establishment of a Palestinian state. The Likud adjusted itself to a public opinion that had become more moderate.
In what democratic state could such a process take place during war? This is why one could say that in the deepest sense of the word, Israel did win - because during three years of ongoing nightmare, it demonstrated both resilience and political moderation.
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Israel deliberately used civilian casualties.........
10.07.2003 08:59
Barak was explicit about this:
"(Barak) said that were there not 140 Palestinian Casualties at this point, but rather 400 or 1000, this....... would dmage Israel a great deal" Jerusalem Post 30/10/00 (Reinhart)
Instead there was apolicy of deliberately inflicting serious injuries:
"On October 11,2000, El Mizan Hospital in Hebron reported treating 11 palestinians for eye injuries, including 3 children. El Nasir Opththalmic Hospital in Gaza has treated 16 people for eye injuries, including 9 children. 9 of them lost one of their eyes."
Law report - October 19, 2000.
"From September 29 to October 25, 2000 Jerusalem's St. John Eye Hospital treated 50 patients for eye Injuries"
Law report - November 2, 2000.
The point of posting up mainstream zionist propaganda was what exactly?
freethepeeps
isreali propaganda
10.07.2003 10:32
'no ethnic riots erupted here, Nor did shocking acts occur like those in France - where, although there were no terror acts, Arab passersby were murdered a few years ago'
except for the Jewish settlers who make a policy of terrorising the nearby villages to 'show them who's boss' shooting up houses and passers by, abducting and beating up kids, while the IDF looks on.
'Moreover, although violence and terror usually lead to a right-wing radicalization, in Israel the opposite took place'
err, if sharon's not right wing then i dunno who is. u've got politicians calling palestinians 'two-legged beasts' who need to be 'driven into the sea' so isreal can be 'purified'
this is typical bollox about isreal's 'purity of arms' a concept they've invented to make their brutal occupation and repression of Palestinians more acceptable. Unfortunately most of the truth about what goes on in the occupied territories never gets reported.
hk