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Durex Study shows condoms INCREASE aids.

Paul King | 07.06.2003 11:30

A study by Durex has shon that condoms actually INCREASE aids. Is safe sex natural sex after all?

If AIDS is sexually transmitted how can one explain these figures: -

AIDS CASES IN 2001

 http://www.avert.org/eurosum.htm

France 1528

Holland (legal prostitution) 45

Sweden (legal prostitution/very sexually liberated) 42

Denmark (as above) 74

These current statistics hardly suggest a link between AIDS and sexual activity.

....so does that mean that people in France are less likely to use condoms than in Holland, Denmark and Sweden?

Actually the EXACT REVERSE IS TRUE.

Durex study: -

[url] http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/10198/96961[/url]

"The number 2 country in the Durex survey (amount of sexual activity) is the Netherlands, where people say they have sex 158 times a year, followed by Denmark at 152. The average among all the countries is 139, with the USA falling just short at 138.

While people are still underprotecting themselves from sexually transmitted infections (STIs) and unwanted pregnancies, according to the Durex Global Sex Survey, the French are the least likely to have had unprotected sex. Just 22 percent said they have not used protection, compared to 61 percent in Sweden who did not take precautions."

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France had over 1528 AIDS cases in 2001 ( http://www.avert.org/eurosum.htm) compared to 42 in Sweden BUT uses condoms almost 300% more than people in Sweden.

Confused? The lower the condom usage the lower the AIDS. Not exactly what you have been taught?





HERE ARE THE ORIGINAL FIGURES ADJUSTED FOR THE POPULATION'S OF THE RESPECTIVE COUNTRIES INVOLVED.

AIDS CASES (RATE PER THOUSAND POPULATION).

Sweden .047
Denmark .139
Holland .028
France .268

CONDOM USE (as percentage of population)
FRANCE 78%
DENMARK 39% (EXACTLY HALF OF FRANCE)

and yet the rate of French AIDS cases is 1.93 (nearly twice as high*) compared to Denmark. In other words half the condom use creates twice the AIDS (cases not death) rate.


When you adjust for the higher number of sex acts per year in Denmark (152 v. 143) shown in the Durex study (compared to France) the figure shows that DOUBLE THE CONDOM USAGE RESULTS IN (OVER) DOUBLE THE AIDS CASES. This is fairly consistent in ALL European countries and so cannot be dismissed as a anomaly.


Clearly it seems that 'Safe Sex' is natural sex after all.

Paul King
- Homepage: http://www.virusmyth.com

Comments

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Errr No actually

07.06.2003 11:56

either you are correct or sweden has a greter number of people who practice responsible sex with responsible people,,

having looked at your site i recommend you join the rest of your white supremacist, gun nut, anti abortionist, jesus was a white texan buddies and hold up in some survivalist utopia somewhere

If this sounds harsh then i should point out that people like this should be kept out of any society that values human rights.

Yes i will die for your right to say anything (decarte) but not if you preach intolerance and violence.

no wondar you got kicked off your own planet and exiled to our backward little rock

gfgs


Don't claim shit based off of one report!

07.06.2003 12:05

This must be a very belated April Fools gag.

This is a highly dangerous statement to be making. Furthermore, why would a condom manufacturer undermine it's own business by producing a report devaluing the importance of their product? I would love to believe this article just as much as I'd like to believe the tooth fairy or the Easter bunny exists. It's nice to tell people what they want to hear if it's factually based - but not if it could fuck up people's lives.

If your statement is true, find a consenting HIV positive person and test it out for yourself. Come back to us when you've got the results.

Jasper


A thought

07.06.2003 12:13

Seeing the site, makes me suspissious that it's creators are cleaverly marking this idea to our sort of 'audience,' targeting their message though anti-corportate ideals. As if to say, hey, I'm not crazy, I'm one of you guys. I'd not be supprised if the the creators of the site meant it as a Trojan Horse, to kill off voices of dissent.

Ben


what utter bullshit

07.06.2003 12:54

I have heard nuns in Africa claim that condoms are deliberately manufactured with holes, or that AIDS is an American bio-weapon to kill Africans (neatly missing the point that that's what the multi-national drug companies are doing).

This kind of invented bullshit is extremely dangerous. Free speech is one thing, but if you're spreading lies that will directly endanger people's lives then that's really sick and depraved.

Legal prostitution doesn't mean more 'risky' sex at all. The less underground prostitution is, the easier it is to educate and protect prositutes, I would have thought that was obvious.

You could equally say that the higher level of AIDS cases in France (assuming you haven't invented the figure) is because of the higher level of immigration in France. That wouldn't be true either.

aidsbaby


Population Control.

07.06.2003 14:55

The myth that AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease is another tactic to stop people doing what comes naturally, pro-create. We must stop these non-whites reproducing! Not enough GM food to go round.

Shaggy


Reactionary rubbish...

07.06.2003 19:52

I haven't seen so much reactionary, religious, anti-scientific rubbish in my life. Everyone knows that AIDs is transmitted through bodily fluids––so regardless of what research commissioned by Durex "reveals", the fact is that safe-sex reduces the risk of the transmission of AIDs. That the Catholic, anti-immigrant France of Chirac and popular-frontist betrayal, with it's Vigipirate anti-Muslim racism has more AIDs cases than countries such as Holland with legalised prostitution and more widely available contraception makes far more sense than the opposite. (That's not to say that Holland isn't a capitalist state which is racist.)That Durex, a capitalist corporation producing contraceptives, might release research suggesting that it's products do not do what is scientifically proven to reduce the risk of AIDs transmission is indicative of the reactionary plague of decaying imperialism that stalks humanity today.

Antid Oto


Great article/figures

08.06.2003 06:07


"The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, released the report compiled by the panel of 28 experts, who analyzed about 138 published studies on the use of condoms during penile-vaginal intercourse.

"There was a lack of evidence to help us make a definitive conclusion about the effectiveness of condoms," said panel member Dr. Timothy Schacker, an infectious disease expert at the University of Minnesota"

Aletta


NO LINK BETWEEN SAFE SEX AND AIDS

08.06.2003 06:09



Is There Evidence AIDS is Sexually Transmitted?

According to Dr. David Rasnick, the facts don't support the hypothesis. Check out his letter from the British Medical Journal
online:

Sex Has Nothing to Do With AIDS

David Rasnick, Visiting Scientist, UC Berkeley
 rasnick@mindspring.com
January 20, 2003

I challenge [doctors] to come up with the names, even one will do, of the persons documented to have shown that AIDS or HIV is
sexually transmitted. I know of no such study.

In fact, the scientific, medical literature is full of evidence that neither AIDS nor HIV is sexually transmitted. It is only assumed that
they are.

The results of the world's best scientific study that attempted to measure the efficiency of heterosexual transmission of antibodies to
HIV was conducted by Nancy Padian and her colleagues (Padian NS, et al. 1997:
Heterosexual transmission of human immunodeficiency virus in northern California: results from a ten-year study. Am J Epidemiol
146: 350-7).

The most striking result of the ten-year study is that Padian et al. did not observe any HIV-negative sex partners becoming
HIV-positive from years of
unprotected sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive partners. I repeat?NOT ONE HIV-negative sex partner became positive
during the 10- year study. Therefore, the observed transmission efficiency was ZERO.

However, to avoid reporting a zero efficiency for the sexual transmission of HIV, Padian and colleagues assumed that the
HIV-positive sex partners in their study must have become positive through sexual intercourse before
entering the study. Using that assumption, they estimated that an HIV-negative woman would have to have sexual intercourse 1,000
times with HIV-positive men before becoming HIV-positive herself. Even more astounding,
HIV-negative men would have to have 8000 sexual contacts before becoming HIV-positive.

Virtually identical figures have been reported by others (Gisselquist, D., et al., HIV infections in sub- Saharan Africa not explained
by sexual or vertical transmission. Int J STD AIDS, 2002. 13: p. 657-666; Jacquez, J.A.,
et al., Role of the primary infection in epidemics of HIV infection in gay cohorts. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr, 1994. 7: p.
1169-1184).

Given these figures and that the US Centers for Disease Control estimates that one million Americans have antibodies to HIV raises
an enormous problem for sexually transmitted HIV. Since there are around 280 million men and women in the USA, that means
that on average an HIV-negative woman would have to have random sexual intercourse 140,000 times?and a man eight times
that number?in order to become HIV-positive (assuming equal distribution of HIV between the sexes).

Below are additional examples in the literature that neither AIDS nor HIV is sexually transmitted.

- None of the husbands of HIV positive women became antibody positive to HIV over a three-year period. (Lancet ii: 581 (1985),
Stewart et al.}

- No transmission of HIV was observed between couples in which all of the women were HIV positive and in which at least 100
sexual contacts occurred. (JAMA 259: 3037 (1988), Padian et al.)

- After a mean of 3-1/2 years of unprotected intercourse, with an average of 50 sexual encounters per year, only one hemophiliac
wife became HIV positive. (American Journal of Medicine 85: 472 (1988), Kim et al.)

- No transmission of T-cell abnormalities from hemophiliacs with AIDS to their spouses. (JAMA 251: 1450 (1984), Kreiss et al.)

- "The number of American and European heterosexuals who have had sexual relations with a prostitute, who have no other
admitted risk factors (such as drug abuse), and who have subsequently developed antibody to HIV can be
counted on the fingers of one hand. Sex with a prostitute is not even listed as a risk category by the American CDC." (Rethinking
AIDS, Root-Bernstein, 1993)

- "Non-drug abusing prostitutes have no higher risk of AIDS than other women." (AIDS: the second decade, report from the
National Academy of Sciences USA, 1990)

The same is true for prostitutes in Germany, Zurich, Vienna, London, Paris, Pardenone (Italy), and Athens. (Klinische
Wochenschrift 65: 287 (1987), Luthy et al.; Wiener Klinische Wochenschrift 98: 697 (1986), Kopp &
Dangl-Erlach; Lancet ii: 1424 (1985), Brenky-Fandeux & Fribourg-Blanc; British Medical Journal 297: 1585 (1988), Day et al.;
Scand J Infect Dis 21: 353 (1988), Hyams et al.)

Aletta