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Culture of indiscriminate violence is partly being set-up

Waltzing Matilda | 03.06.2003 15:30

With reference to the Wombles Report from Evian, this is an excellent report.
Ref:  http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70605&group=webcast

One criticism to the photos put out earlier on the Wombles website (which are not accessible now - REF:  http://wombles.org.uk/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=G8Evian). I'm afriad you lot are self-congratulating yourselves of naughty stuff you got up to in Evian. So what that you were Wombles smashing windows. I'm sure anarcho types/black block from Europe aren't patting themselves on the back in their home countries saying "we're from such-&-such group, and here we were smashing stuff up in Evian". PERHAPS, THOUGH THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ANARCHIST/NILIHIST GROUPS WHO WANT SOCIETY TO BURN DOWN! (Names I've heard metioned include the Teutonico Black Block, and an extremist Aryan-supremacist political group called Npd).

They sound like agent provocateur groups like Baader Meinhof and RAF were in the 1970s - used to justify further police powers. Horst Mahler - former RAF terrorist - is now head of the Npd.

The trend/fashion amongst the anti-capitalist brigade at the moment is for violent upheaval. Our detracters try to claim the movement is divided and split as a result. The problem is that this becomes a possibility when the violence becomes indiscriminate - it does isolate some people in our movement (for instance, in 1999, I remember seeing a couple geeting their car turned over and beaten up in London on June 18th just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time - the action by a few mindless thugs brought a justifiably angry reaction from other protestors).

Violence is fine. But it must be targetted. Otherwise, they use it as an excuse against us.

Waltzing Matilda

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its deliberate from the right

03.06.2003 15:55

the right want this to happen.

fascists deliberately go into the crowd and stir it up.

In Genoa some police were from fascist party's and went out just to beat protestors up and have a fight.

in Greece they've also planted them inside the block to stir it up.

the right relies on this to distort the message, they are the ones who along with the media are trying to crush the movement.

we really need to discuss this at the European Social Forum, we need a dialogue between those who do this.

by the way there's nothing wrong with anarchism itself however much i'm not against violence at times against the symbols of global capitalism i don't think its going to be productive and help us at the moment.

only when you have a majority support can you do that, if you don't have the support its just counterproductive.

the right wants and needs another left wing terrorist group to stop us in Europe just like the USA needs islamic terrorists.

we have to review and consider and plan ahead for the next summit so we don't let the police take advantage.

how about next time just staging a huge stand off in the street, not smashing windows but just resisting the police from moving us, the anarchos will have fun and its not as bad press.

i'm interested in discussing this with anyone if they're interested

ser


ROME BURNS

03.06.2003 20:25

Watch it and weep. As ceasars Rome burned, so shall the empire of the minority rich burn. None shall sleep until the emperors golden city burns. You don't complain about the indiscriminate violence of the stormtrooper police protectors of the rich and powerful statesmen elite. Yet you whinge and whine when the status symbols of the empire of the rich few are destroyed and laid to waste. Watch now the glory of violence, the fire dancing to the sky, the broken glass, overturned vehicles and designer shops of the elite ransacked and wrecked. As the people masked return to the poor what is rightfully theirs, this earth and the precious coveted loot of the rich. As the rich and powerful lay waste the third world poor, we bring to the rich vultures RETRIBUTION.

burning and a looting yeehah


Burn-baby-Burn

03.06.2003 22:11

RE: last comments "ROME BURNS"
OK, yeah, I can go with that!

Waltzing Matilda