Whatever happened to 'Anarchist Rioter'?

? | 23.05.2003 21:24

Whatever happened to arguably the best journalist indymedia has ever has -namely Anarchist Rioter?

Whatever happened to arguably the best journalist indymedia has ever has -namely Anarchist Rioter? His reports direct from the frontline at summits were an inspiration to us all (not unlike the activist journalism of Regis Debray before he lost it!).
We need more 'journalism' (if that is the right word) of the kind practiced by 'Anarchist Rioter'. Maybe we should all become Anarchist Rioters now!

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Hmmmmm

23.05.2003 23:12

Well there were a couple of people who posted with that name, but the main person, Mr B posted his international reports while hiding in the shadows at international demonstrations, never participating.

Hmmm I put in a lot of detail but I've deleted most of it... safe to say he's a known cop collaborator whose willingness to talk to him has landed him, as well as 2 members of the Anarchist Youth Network and another woman nicked, charged and had their houses raided.

One to be wary of...

If you want more info email

london@anarchistyouth.net

@-girl

Yikes

24.05.2003 10:09

Anarchist Rioter is still here and planning more summit reportage in the weeks ahead. Stand by for all the latest from Geneva and Thessaloniki . . . It was never one person anyway. There were at least two people posting as Anarchist Rioter (and possibly more).

Don't take any of the above too seriously. I was stupid enough to fall foul of a certain paranoid person who gets off accusing people of being "informants" and "collaborators" to cover up for his own inadequacies. If he's such a great activist, then ask him why he has never been raided by the filth, whereas I have had two visits in the past year and a Special Branch team sitting outside my front door reading the Daily Express?

If anyone really wants to know the truth about the AYN, they can read it in my new book which is coming out in the spring. I guess there will be a few red faces when all the facts are known.

Anarchist Rioter

But why a name like 'Anarchist Rioter'?

24.05.2003 11:57

A name like that just makes me think of all the people who give the activst movement a bad name, the people who vandalise McDonlalds and Starbucks, the people who throw molotovs around, and the people who start fights with those who are not extremist enought for them.

Thomas J

Yes, exactly . . .

24.05.2003 13:30

The point was to annoy and to provoke. I seem to have succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. Attacking the system is only one side of the equation. As the Situationists pointed out, those who talk about democracy without practising it in their own lives "have a corpse in their mouths". The activist movement has to realise that we are internalising much of the corporate media hype about our activities. "Anarchist Rioter" is therefore an ironic statement, but one that contains an element of threat. Anarchist Rioter is also a provocation, since it requires people to think about the labels that we attach to various activities. If it's any consolation, the police hate me far more than the AYN.

Anarchist Rioter

Ha ha ha

24.05.2003 16:19

Well hello again "Anarchist" "Rioter"!
(I'm the "paranoid person" he mentions above)

I think you might find that your house keeps getting raided not because you're a massive threat to the State, but because you talk to the police all the time, and have given the FIT team your name, address and phone number for no reason, other than to feel like you're a "cool", super-activist.

People in a number of organisations are aware of your, shall we say, big mouth when it comes to coppers? Including the AYN, Wombles, IWW, CAAT, Youth & Student CND, Direct Action Against War, Disarm DSEi and Indymedia so I wouldn't expect your book to be taken too seriously by the movement!

I bet you miss LX365 now he's moved into the TSG, eh Mr B?

George's Bush

book?

24.05.2003 16:24

What's the book going to be called?

interested

Accusations of undercover police activity

24.05.2003 17:49

I think people in this movement should be very careful about accusing others of working for the state unless they have conclusive proof. On mayday this year, for example, I was simply standing on the strand wearing a mask and someone came up to me and after a brief chat accused me of being an undercover cop! It seems that this idiot reasoned that anyone who was not stoned out of his brain and wore a mask must be an agent of the state!
If you look at struggles elsewhere such as in the north of Ireland, the radicals there bide their time if they think they have a police informer in their midst and build up a picture of his/her activities for a long period before accusing people of collaborating with the state. If this movement proceeds down the road of accusing people of working undercover at every turn then we will simply tear ourselves apart through a process of suspecting anyone who seeks to participate in the struggle against capitalism!

Mmmm.... feel the freedom.

24.05.2003 18:11

AHA!

Glad to see Divide and Conquer is still as effective as it's been for millenia.... with friction between factions, fighting for their favourite doctrines, rules, laws, controls and restrictions, ultimately to be imposed by tyrants.

Anarchy makes that no longer relevant.

Anarchist Rioter

a waste of time/space

24.05.2003 20:25

Indymedia uk is in danger of becoming a twats forum...

another twat

Reply to 'another twat'

24.05.2003 20:39

My point in putting the posting up in the first place was to make the point that we do not have enough good journalism on indymedia of the penetrating kind that we have seen from 'Anarchist Rioter'. So far from this debate being a waste of time perhaps it will serve to jolt people into 'journalistic' action!

People in Glass Houses . . .

25.05.2003 11:57

That last comment wasn't mine. "Anarchist Rioter" seems to be proliferating.

I do find "George Bush" very amusing. Just like the real George W, he has nothing to contribute to this debate other than malicious gossip and snide innuendo. My my, George, haven't we been a busy boy? How many people have you managed to denounce me to? Hundreds and hundreds. You would have made a good secret policeman.

Incidentally folks, "George Bush" used to be in the SWP and in REVO before they kicked him out, and I can't say that I blame them.

The book is called "Kicking Off: Confessions of an Anarchist Rioter". I bet "George Bush" will be first one to get down to Borders and order a copy in advance!

Incidentally, LX365 is still in the FIT, although he does appear in TSG garb from time to time. Appearance is not the same as reality.

"I am a man more sinned against than sinning."

Anarchist Rioter

Ever get the feeling you've been had?

25.05.2003 22:33

Sorry to step into somebody else's argument, but did it strike anyone else that 'anarchist rioter' may have posted the opening article as a desperate attempt to plug his book?

Starve this shameless self-publicist of attention and he might go away...

Robin C

Touche

26.05.2003 09:29

I really didn't start this thread - honest. I guess you'll just have to take my word for that. But you're right - I am a shameless self-publicist.

Anarchist Rioter

but sad really

26.05.2003 11:31

It strikes me as a little sad and stereotypical that anyone would write a book with a title that fits the corp-media stereotype so well. Regardless of whether you claim you're doing out of some kind of intellectual, ironical bollocks or not.

I wonder which book shops will be selling it?
How much will you make from it?
Does it make you feel all big n hard playing the anarchist activist?

At least machismo is alive and well in todays movement anyway.

-A none-london, none-paranoid anarchist who's evil secrets you're no doubt about to reveal.
Have I ever met you cos you sound like you need waking up?

a. spies or joe king depending on me mood

Yet more lies...

26.05.2003 21:02

Sigh I was never kicked out of the SWP or REVOLUTION. Yet more lies from a delusional self-publicist, who is neither an anarchist nor a rioter, but is using the movements high profile seemingly to make a bit of cash.

Well done.

Indymedia's for news not bitching so let's call an end to it.

AR my email address is georgesbush at mail.com if you would carry on this discussion there.

George's Bush

I started this thread not AR

27.05.2003 19:39

To reply to Robin c I started this thread not Anarchist Rioter. So please do not assume that Anarchist Rioter is a shameless self publicist! This is not to suggest that I have never been an 'Anarchist Rioter'-I think the Black Bloc tactic has many positive points- but rather, I have never written any reports under that title!
It seems that Anarchist Rioter needs some defenders given some of the abuse being thrown at him/her by some involved in this discussion.