More allegations against Timothy Collins
Andre | 23.05.2003 10:11
The MOD has confirmed that RIR officer toff Timmy Collins is currently the subject of two military investigations, into the mysterious apparent suicide of East belfast soldier Paul Cochrane, when Timothy and the RIR were based at holywood barracks and also into allegations of mistreatment of iraqi civillians and POW's.
Timmy collins was the officer in command of the RIR when under his command, soldier Paul Cochrane died in an apparent suicide. The east belfast man's parents have been campaigning for 2 years to get the MOD to investigate the circumstances surrounding and leading up to Paul's mysterious suicide. Paul phoned his parents just before the suicide, and discussed with them his concerns about harrassment and intimidation by high ranking RIR soldiers. Shortly after this phonecall Paul allegedly commited suicide. The PUP have been calling for an inquiry into Paul Cochrane's suicide and the suicide of other soldiers.
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23.05.2003 10:26
Witnesses said the tobacco-chewing American had shrugged at Col Collins, 43, and said with a sneer: “Oh, yeah, fine.”
Former SAS man Col Collins was furious at the major’s disrespectful attitude toward a senior officer and had him arrested for insubordination.
Then he humiliated the yank by making him stand ramrod straight for 45 minutes while British squaddies walked past, trying to stifle their sniggers.
It is believed the US officer suffered further humiliation when he was demoted by his superiors. He subsequently filed rumours that were circulating which alleged Col Collins had fired weapons needlessly and assaulted Iraqis.
The pair clashed when the colonel saw the major dishing out sweets and rations to children near the British HQ in southern Iraq.
Col Collins told him to stop and said he had banned such practices on safety grounds.
But the major replied: “You do your job and I will do mine.”
The colonel hit the roof and gave him a withering dressing down.
Another British officer said: “Col Collins had banned us all from throwing sweets out of our vehicles, or handing them out on patrol, because he wanted all food distribution to be controlled and organised.
“He did not want the locals being treated like animals and in the pandemonium that it caused a kid could easily have fallen under the wheels of a vehicle.
“One day this US major turned up and started dishing out sweets to kids outside a school.
“He wasn’t even supposed to be in the area. He was part of a CIMIC team, which is a civil-military cooperation providing aid, food and water to surrounding towns.”
Other soldiers witnessed the confrontation.
One squaddie said: Col Collins asked him who he was and what he was doing. The major explained himself.
Col Collins said, ‘This is my area of responsibility. I’ve put a ban on this. It is not good for security and I don’t want the locals treated in this way. They have pride’.
Word has gone round that the US major was heard to say, ‘You do your job and I will do mine’.
Majors do not speak to colonels like that. The colonel apparently blew his top and stormed: ‘Do you realise who you are talking to? This is Col Tim Collins of the Royal Irish Regiment. Stand to attention when I’m talking to you’.
The US major stood up in a sloppy, disrespectful manner while saying ‘yeah, fine,’ instead of snapping to attention. At that point Col Collins got angry and ordered a sergeant major to arrest him for insubordination.
Back at HQ it was hilarious, with this American standing upright and the British soldiers filing past wondering what was going on.
After three-quarters of an hour a high-ranking US Army officer turned up. He went in to meet Col Collins, who explained why the major was under arrest.
The Brit soldiers who saw him thought he was a bit of a prat. He was in his late 30s or early 40s and about 5ft 8in. He was chewing tobacco and looked like a bit of a redneck. We were all chuckling behind his back.
I would not say it’s never been done before but for a commander to arrest someone like this and humiliate him in this way is unusual.
Hero's welcome ... liberated Iraqis
hail Col Collins in Al Amara
After “apologies all round” the Americans took away the major to discipline him themselves.
Weeks later he filed a series of claims that father-of-five Col Collins contravened the Geneva Convention.
Allegations include that he pistol-whipped an Iraqi civic leader and intimidated civilians by firing at their feet.
The source added: “There were a lot of rumours flying around about Col Collins.
“We don’t know how the US major got hold of them, but he reported them to his bosses who got straight on to the Ministry of Defence.
“It was a spiteful, vengeful act against the commander but I believe he will brush off the complaints.
“He is a fantastic leader — strong but fair — who loved the Iraqi people.”
Inspirational Col Collins won international fame and praise with his Shakespearean-style speech to his troops just before the attack on Iraq.
The address was admired by Prince Charles and President George Bush.
A soldier who served under the colonel for three years likened him yesterday to the boss of all-conquering Manchester United.
He said: “He is a winner, the Alex Ferguson of the Army. People might not like him but he is the best.”
The former Royal Irish Regiment ranger said Collins — then a major — was his commander in C Company, based at Catterick, North Yorks, from March 1997 to November 1999.
“He was tough and his methods were ruthless but he got the job done.
“He was very precise and wouldn’t tolerate any slackness or lack of ability.”
Last night senior officers confirmed the version of events given to The Sun by the officer who worked closely with Col Collins.
One said: “This is exactly what we have been told happened. We hope Col Collins will be cleared but we have to investigate every aspect of the allegations.
“The fact an investigation is being undertaken demonstrates only that we are establishing the facts. It does not indicate or imply that any judgement has been made.”
The Sun has checked the identity of our informants, and verified the accuracy of what they told us.
But they have asked us not to name them for fear of disciplinary action under the Official Secrets Act.
Ramrod
Dear Nimrod
23.05.2003 11:06
I don't believe for a minute all this"hero" bollocks about Obersturmfuhrer Collins - he's just another hired killer.
The only reason that the shitrags like the Sun love him so much is a) He's one of "our boys" (whatever that means), b) He was in the sordid little war that we're all supposed to dumbly support and c) He blatantly fancies himself in his dinky little designer shades'n'cigar combo and is therefore "good copy" for yer average jingoiistic tabloid.
I reckon he's as guilty as sin.
MM
Mad Monk
Scapegoat
23.05.2003 12:34
Chupa
ah ....
23.05.2003 18:34
sceptic
Timmy collins or bully beef
23.05.2003 21:01
American officers giving cheek to a british officer!! espeacially a brit officer of your social background and status Timothy. We can't have that now can we, seeing as us brits are clearly a superior race of people in every way. We british can't have low bred unrefined mongrel americans telling us what to do, interfering with us having fun with the natives. Well really, if I was in Timothy collins position, I'd go ahead and give those disobedient Iraqis an even bigger trashing, just to spite those interfering Americans.
Timothy was clearly sending out a message to the native peasants and his own rabble, to let these unruly oiks know just who was the real white desert masser in Iraq, and it certainly wasn't a bunch of gum chewing yanky mongrels.
binky old boy
an officer and not a gentleman
23.05.2003 22:34
white hunter,black heart
I say
24.05.2003 15:18
I say