I am sure that nice Mr Mugabe will be glad of your support.

"regime change" in Zimbabwe- mostly to favor rich, white land owners?

That's a very - uhm - idiosyncratic, shall we say - view of the situation in Zimbabwe. If Mugabe was white the activities of his government would be called ethnic cleansing.

It really confuses me how people who oppose the BNP philosophy of an all white Britain implicitly support the idea that all whites should be driven out of Africa at gunpoint.

Why, because black Africans were there first? Do you know any 200 year old Africans? Because it's their land? Can we, then, expect to see you clearing non-white estates in Bradford with an AK47 in the near future, if you're that keen on indigenous purity?

Quite rightly the majority of IMC readers would have howled with outrage if white militia were rampaging around Zimbabwe massacring simple, peaceful black Zimbabwean farmers. But apparently, some IMCers perceptions of race boil down to this:

white = evil, guilty, sinful;
non-white = victim, pityful, worthy.

That perception is the 50% that complements the eugenicists and the ethnic cleansers, hand in glove.

...deal with Mr. Mugabe. The white boy U.S. needs to stay out. And as with Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., etc., etc.,etc.,..... it will be much worse under U.S. rule. F**K the U.S.!

Stop blurting pig swill!

Mugabe is a politician who has been using the white farmer's illegal positions to his illegal activities over the past seven years.

What you must remember is that at the time of the birth of Zimbabwe (from the private colony of the pig Rhodes) it was agreed that the pig apartheid regime will give away their lands. Most of the agreements drawn at this point have not been honoured and some of the white farmers ran back to their racists masters the UK and the USA for help. This is thuggery and is the cause of the madness within Mugabe.

So get your facts right.

All that is being asked of white farmers is to leave their vast tracts of lands to the landless. No one is being asked to leave Zimbabwe over the land issue. But of course once when runs to historically prooven fascist places they do become pariahs.

This is a true class war marred by racism.
There is no ethnic clensing or any stupid inbred idiots like the BNP in actions.
It is about african peasants having rights to their lands and the ex west's darling Mugabe gone crazy.

White farmers are not Zimbabwe.
Mugabe is not Zimbabwe.
These are two factors that need to dissapear for Zimbabwe for being Zimbabweans.


What is possible in the west is to boycott the white farmers (and their farming products ...most of which is Tobacco) while finding ways to feed the whole southern african region going through the severest drought in recorded history!

Also this practice of treating the white 'refugee' seperately has to stop.

Only after that the west will have any moral justification in participating in a way to engineer the downfall of Mugabe.

Until then the Mugabe problem is best solved by africans.

Whatever Mugabe is (and is is far better than Bush and Blair) let's not forget that a big part of Zimbabwe's problems today has been created by the colonial and the Rodesian governments prior.

And same with that of the South African case.

It is quite easy to point out (as the monopoly for this seem to be with western countries) all that is wrong with Mugabe and Zimbabwe but to help put Zimbabwe right for the Zimbabwean people does not seem to be in the agenda of the West.

And racism is certainly in the minds of many (even without the BNP clowns).

I say let the Africans solve their own problems - they are totally capable of that. Stop coveting their wealth and let them develop themselves.

There are tyrants worse than Mugabe in Africa but the UK and the Guardian (and even self-appointed leader of his own brand of homosexuality Tatchell) are fixated by Mugabe.

Mugabe should be admired if not for anything else for his comment when questioned by reporters here about white air force pilots he improsioned at one stage. He replied that he also imprisoned a lot of blacks. And interestingly and somehow these blacks were not of interest.

Unbelievable... Ram, assuming you're 1) not white and 2) living in Britain, the 'no whites in Zimbabwe are Zimbabwean' statement is a little perplexing.

By that standard I expect you also believe that all blacks and asians should be forcibly expelled from Britain or just shot dead in their homes. Especially the rich ones, eh?

Incidentally, show me proof that white Zimbabwean refugees have been treated more fairly than black ones, which there are thousands of in the UK.

The fact is Ram, you are, like a small minority of people on IMC, a sick little extreme-right racist hiding amongst the issues of the radical left. And you feed off the white=guilty non-white=worthy binary I mentioned before to continue spewing your brand of racist filth.

It is possible to be anti-Mugabe without supporting imperialist invasion as the way to remove him. Just like with Hussein in Iraq, remember?

But don't take my word for it. Rather than pontificating from a thousand miles away, why not visit the website of the ISO Zimbabwe, who are actually there:

Here's Boris Johnson in the Spectator:

"It is outrageous that Zimbabwean farmers (our kith and kin) should be undergoing the same kind of scrutiny as Kosovar Albanians."

BTW, around 98% of the folks suffering Mugabe's tyranny are BLACK and, for the most part, have rather less economic resources than their white compatriots. Unlike a significant proprtion of the whites, they also don't have the luxury of having retained UK passports. You might want to give a little of your bleeding heart sympathy to them also.

Ram ain't a racist. You're a fool.

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Here you ll find the clip (made by South Park animators). Choose the "a brief history" clip in any format you want. Don t forget to check the others out and.... watch the movie!

 http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/media/clips/index.php

We didn't see white westerners club footing it in to depose/'regieme change' Pik botha's apartheid south africa or nazi uber capitalist witch doctor Idi Amin, not to mention Haiti's Papa Doc duvalier. The same white people who scream for regieme changes in far off foreign lands, are the same people who in the same breath begrudge african/middle eastern/yugoslavian refugees/asylum seekers fleeing the fighting and unrest in these lands coming to seek refuge in britain. I think we'll find its also the same G& T swilling binky old boy colonel mustard clique that supported the likes of Pik Botha, Idi Amin and Papa doc Duvalier, who are now hypocritically crying foul play in Zimbabwe.

I wrote,

>>White farmers are not Zimbabwe.

trope the pig contrued it to

>'the 'no whites in Zimbabwe are Zimbabwean' statement' !!!
amidst lots of assumptions

either a complete idiot or a very devious pig.

Then the pig goes onto give some mumbo jumbo about equals and binaries.

But gives it away here
'a sick little extreme-right racist hiding amongst the issues of the radical left...'

Well if you proclaim yourself to be radical left , all I have to say is ...stick your views on international issues up your radical left stinky piggy arse.

But it is comforting to know that you are majority on IMC-UK and that is why IMC-UK remains as a glorified talkshop, which is a damn shame.

For anyone interested, the Zimbvabweans refugees are treated very special indeed. Not one ever is contained in the detention centers for other refugees. Rhodes the pig, having been a member of the Tavistock club, the most influential 'white land owner' characters who enginner the destruction of Zimbabwe by adding fuel to the fire that Mugabe is, regularly play golf with all the shadiest pigs over here.