Immigrants 'behind crime wave' - police
Kamal Ahmed | 19.05.2003 10:19
Immigrants 'behind crime wave' - police
Claim by Britain's most senior officer sparks new asylum row
Kamal Ahmed, political editor
Sunday May 18, 2003
The Observer
The row over Britain's asylum policies took a new twist last night when Britain's most senior police officer claimed mass immigration has created a 'whole new range of crimes' threatening to overwhelm towns and cities across the country.
In comments which will spark a debate about whether genuine asylum seekers are being used as a cover for criminal gangs, Chris Fox, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said the mass movement of people around the world had brought new levels of organised crime, with drug dealing, gun offences, prostitution and kidnapping.
Claiming the numbers of asylum seekers coming to Britain had reached 'tidal wave' proportions, Fox said: 'Mass migration has brought with it a whole new range and a whole new type of crime, from the Nigerian fraudster, to the eastern European who deals in drugs and prostitution to the Jamaican concentration on drug dealing.'
'Add to that the home grown criminals and we have a whole different family of people who are competing to be in the organised crime world,' he said in an interview with The Observer ahead of Acpo's annual conference this week.
Fox said that he did not blame genuine asylum seekers, but some towns and cities were struggling to cope with the influx. 'The mass movement of people has made it worse. It is accepted that [if] people do move for security, safety and to avoid terror, among them there will be people who aren't moving for those purposes.
'Similarly, gangs see a chance to earn money by moving people and getting people into countries without going through all the checks.
'This mass movement brings with it the opportunity for criminals to move and to make money.'
In the wide ranging interview, the widely respected Fox also revealed that:
Many new officers on the beat were inexperienced and still learning the job. Forces too often were not getting the best performance from the recruits.
Police suffered from being set too many government targets.
Forces too often failed to think long term and sought too many hidebound short-term solutions.
Cyber crime was a growing problem, though new Home Office resources and better ways of working with other countries' police and Europol were helping.
Fox's comments on immigration, which will again put asylum at the top of the political agenda, echo those of a report by the influential House of Commons Home Affairs Select Committee.
In an investigation into asylum published earlier this month, the committee said the large number of asylum seekers entering the country was threatening 'social unrest' and had to be curbed.
'Every time you get a new group you get more tension,' said Fox, who is chief constable of Northamptonshire. 'The eastern European, Afghanistan, Middle Eastern movement has had the most effect - it is such large numbers of people.
'If you think of where we were with asylum seekers two years ago, if you look at Sangatte [the Red Cross base near Calais which was a gathering point for British-bound refugees] and the movement there, it reached a high level, a tidal wave.'
He said new Home Office rules had helped stem the flow, but the jury 'was still out' on whether more needed to be done.
'My personal view is that this is a small island. We have some very, very intensely-populated areas and I think we have to be careful just how we let the mix develop,' he said.
'It's healthy that we've got lots of different people, but if you go into some of the cities, looking at the North, Bradford simmers, Blackburn simmers. It doesn't take much to disturb the balance, and I think we've got to be very careful to make sure that we're not overwhelming our current infrastructure.'
The British National Party won its first council seat in Blackburn at a by-election last autumn. Bradford has also suffered a series of riots linked to race in the summer of 2001.
The Government is expected to reveal fresh statistics this week which will show a rapid fall in the number of asylum applicants.
Claim by Britain's most senior officer sparks new asylum row
Kamal Ahmed, political editor
Sunday May 18, 2003
The Observer
The row over Britain's asylum policies took a new twist last night when Britain's most senior police officer claimed mass immigration has created a 'whole new range of crimes' threatening to overwhelm towns and cities across the country.
In comments which will spark a debate about whether genuine asylum seekers are being used as a cover for criminal gangs, Chris Fox, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said the mass movement of people around the world had brought new levels of organised crime, with drug dealing, gun offences, prostitution and kidnapping.
Claiming the numbers of asylum seekers coming to Britain had reached 'tidal wave' proportions, Fox said: 'Mass migration has brought with it a whole new range and a whole new type of crime, from the Nigerian fraudster, to the eastern European who deals in drugs and prostitution to the Jamaican concentration on drug dealing.'
'Add to that the home grown criminals and we have a whole different family of people who are competing to be in the organised crime world,' he said in an interview with The Observer ahead of Acpo's annual conference this week.
Fox said that he did not blame genuine asylum seekers, but some towns and cities were struggling to cope with the influx. 'The mass movement of people has made it worse. It is accepted that [if] people do move for security, safety and to avoid terror, among them there will be people who aren't moving for those purposes.
'Similarly, gangs see a chance to earn money by moving people and getting people into countries without going through all the checks.
'This mass movement brings with it the opportunity for criminals to move and to make money.'
In the wide ranging interview, the widely respected Fox also revealed that:
Many new officers on the beat were inexperienced and still learning the job. Forces too often were not getting the best performance from the recruits.
Police suffered from being set too many government targets.
Forces too often failed to think long term and sought too many hidebound short-term solutions.
Cyber crime was a growing problem, though new Home Office resources and better ways of working with other countries' police and Europol were helping.
Fox's comments on immigration, which will again put asylum at the top of the political agenda, echo those of a report by the influential House of Commons Home Affairs Select Committee.
In an investigation into asylum published earlier this month, the committee said the large number of asylum seekers entering the country was threatening 'social unrest' and had to be curbed.
'Every time you get a new group you get more tension,' said Fox, who is chief constable of Northamptonshire. 'The eastern European, Afghanistan, Middle Eastern movement has had the most effect - it is such large numbers of people.
'If you think of where we were with asylum seekers two years ago, if you look at Sangatte [the Red Cross base near Calais which was a gathering point for British-bound refugees] and the movement there, it reached a high level, a tidal wave.'
He said new Home Office rules had helped stem the flow, but the jury 'was still out' on whether more needed to be done.
'My personal view is that this is a small island. We have some very, very intensely-populated areas and I think we have to be careful just how we let the mix develop,' he said.
'It's healthy that we've got lots of different people, but if you go into some of the cities, looking at the North, Bradford simmers, Blackburn simmers. It doesn't take much to disturb the balance, and I think we've got to be very careful to make sure that we're not overwhelming our current infrastructure.'
The British National Party won its first council seat in Blackburn at a by-election last autumn. Bradford has also suffered a series of riots linked to race in the summer of 2001.
The Government is expected to reveal fresh statistics this week which will show a rapid fall in the number of asylum applicants.
Kamal Ahmed
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Bullshite
19.05.2003 12:58
Dodgy
No Platform for Nazi's
19.05.2003 20:57
And figures produced by the home office show that the immigrant population creates far more wealth for the UK than it takes out
More people leave Britain every year than enter it. The only time in recent history when immigration has exceeded emmigration is in the 1950s (a time incidentally when we had full employment!)
Lewisham 1977
Where do the numbers come from?
20.05.2003 01:38
Vol14
Always blame the victim
20.05.2003 06:44
This is the kind of crime those racist thugs above are probably in favour of. Maybe they are sore they didn't get to visit Iraq as very unwelcome immigrants to that country.
gobshite
I am all for immigrants
20.05.2003 09:06
All I can say is that I am all for immigrants. For a start those among them (even those who do not have the necessary skills to start with) do brilliant jobs in place of those over here who are happy to take advantage of the social benefits paid for through the hard work of people like myself. There seem to be no shame among this lot who are happy spending their time in the pubs using "immigrants" as scapegoats for their laziness.
I have used immigrants/asylum seekers/aliens/foreigners for work on my home. They do excellent job, work hard, caring, and have great pride in their work (in other words they are not cowboys). They are also honour-bound and would always come back to put things right. Many are willing to give things they have never tried a go and to be paid only if I am happy with their work. Because they are so willing to make the most of life they try harder. A spirit totally missing in many quarters of our society.
I should not forget the many immigrants/asylum seekers etc who are well-qualified and even over-qualified. Britian needs people like these. And the immigrants again do excellent work (and dare I say, without the kind of nonsense cost). Frankly, the fact that these immigrants are very intelligent they can eat the BNP for breakfast any day (and vomit) if we put them side by side with the Sun-reading no-IQ BNP thickos.
Many can speak English better than most of the BNP's supporters. I would not be embarrassed at all with immigrants than I would be with the low-lifes of the BNP (why would I wish to be with them I ask myself and vomit again...!!!).
Give me an immigrant any time!!!
And I know many who would be happy with that.
(I like their food. culture also, so call me biased!!!)
Enoch Powell
classic!
20.05.2003 09:17
Well that's a new twist on the standard anti-asylum rant; these nasty foreign gangsters are being mean to our nice non-threatening traditional British gangsters, who presumably are gentle boys wot never done nuffink wrong and love their mum... classic!
I can see the interview now: 'yeah, well, Ronnie may have nailed my head to the floor, but at least he spoke English while he did it, know what I mean?'
-
Yes it is true
20.05.2003 09:20
And the gangs as you put it even organised the kind of traffic they wanted to enter Britain.
Blaming "Albanians" is too easy.
Those who sowed wild oats reap the whirlwind!!!
Some ("immigrants"?) would call this karma.
Having said this, it is simply daft to label a whole group as criminal - there are plenty of Albanians doing work that the indignant brigade here wouldn't do - I have come across a lot of dustmen who are Albanians whom because some of us are ignorant cannot be branded as criminals (just because some of us have a bit of a nasty racist streak and because we get up on the wrong side of the bed every morning...)
I would simply call immigrants human beings and try to help them. And why not? The more I use myself for others, the more use I can make of myself.
Criticising "immigrants" is simply too dirty for my head. You pollute yours if you want too and stop there.
Cause and Effect
'ang on a minute, guv!!!
20.05.2003 09:27
Ronnie never did spoke no English!!!
The "foreign" "immigrant" gangsters speak better English than he never did, 'now wot I mean?
Kosovar Cosh lashes out
Yes its about space -
20.05.2003 16:13
What a load of codswallop this stuff about "space". Britain has a lot of space apart from those vast void in the brain buckets of those with low IQ.
Go outside of London and you can see vast amount of space. And a lot of these space are owned by very the very few.
As far as "immigrants" are concerned, there are plenty of space (if that be an issue!) vacated by those fed-up with living here and have gone to invade other space elsewhere.
It may not be about race (for some, the post above seems to have confuse colour and race, but there you go...) but it has plenty to do with the inability of the very small minority who cannot accept people with "quaint" customs and habits.
If you ever venture outside your bedroom you will see how our lot live in other land - many with taking the wide space between their ears abroad and not tolerating those people of other land.
I think it has plenty to do with having some kind of inferiority complex often disguised as "superiority". And inherent racism disguised as concern about welfare, culture, space, etc etc etc...
so its mostly being about being moronic and with an opinion not backed by sober thinking.
Since the influx of "immigrants" the food flavour here has improved. We even copy those "foreign" food. This is only one of the many things that has improved.
Yes, I am all for the foreigners, immigrants and what-have-you.
And yes, I vote for more space for them.
Vast space between the ears of some that can be developed by them foreign types.
And for the good of the rest of us too!!!!!
Space Cadet
adventures in space and time
20.05.2003 16:55
kurious
how to oils the wheels of the fourth reich
20.05.2003 18:52
Similarly as the government privatises the welfare state, resulting in less money for the NHS and the education system. Mr and Mrs hateasylumseekers levels of suseptability to Government 'divert attention onto refugees spin' will rise, resulting in Mr and Mrs hateascapegoat blaming asylum seekers, refugees and anyone that looks foreign for everything under the sun, when in fact they should really be blaming our corrupt greedy useless politicians, the rich and big buisness fat cats.
Mr and Mrs blameawog
Get a grip and don't be illogical
21.05.2003 11:21
Andre
Don't encourage the "Realist"
21.05.2003 13:17
I wouldn't bothering arguing with "Realist", its a waste of time, you should just ignore them, "Realist" likes to wind people up with their remarks, "Realist" is not a realist he's just a conformist!
Miss Point
Realist
21.05.2003 16:26
Put your feet up, light your pipe and have a nice cup of tea.
Maybe those nasty foreigners will go away.
Twit.
*Anyone* should be allowed to come and live here, so long as they take an active part in civil life, through work, socialising, politics, whatever. If people want to be part of Britain, we should welcome them. There's plenty of room - if you looked more closely at Birmingham and Manchester, you'd realise that there are thousands upon thousands of empty houses that could be put to good use with just a bit of hard cash to tidy them up. The idea that Britain is overcrowded is pure Mail/Express bollocks.
Bri.
Brian
Realist hiding again
21.05.2003 20:50
Cleo