This is an excellent initiative.

The demand for reparations, for past Israeli wrong-doings to the Palestinians, is an essential additional point to raise with the Western powers who created this mess and who today perpetuate it: British and American imperialism.

It is these Western powers who should pay for the reconstruction of Palestine. What we have at the present time is essentially a First World Israeli nation (with wide internal class divisions as in all capitalist countries) alongside a Third World nation--Palestine. While these enormous differences in wealth exist between Israel and Palestine, there can be no hope of a resolution of the Middle Eastern crisis. Not only must Israel abandon its idiotic policy of repression, but it must raise SERIOUS money, internally and externally, to help the Palestinians get out of the abject poverty in which they are now trapped. This is the ONLY way out of the never ending tit-for-tat violence. The first step in the realisation of this is for the Israeli left (with a little help for its friends abroad) to fight to kick out Sharon, and the other looney-tunes psychopaths, that currently run their country.

We all know that pleas for such reforms currently fall on deaf ears. History shows that reforms occur as a by-product of militant revolt. It is amazing how when the threat of mass revolution raises its head, money ("aid") suddenly appears from nowhere to buy off the resistance.

Take the example of the Cuban Revolution and the subsequent Kennedy-inspired Alliance for Progress aid programme in Continental Latin America in the 1960s. This was aimed at preventing an extension of the Cuban revolution on the Latin American continent. A totally cynical motivation. But it does show that money can be extracted if the threat of losing everything frightens the rich nations.

Individual terrorism is not effective to loosen the purse strings--and it penalises innocent civilians while leaving the real culprits, the arms mechants, the bankers, etc., untouched.

You have to mobilise large masses of the poor to really put the wind up the rich imperialist suits. Non-violent direct action is OK as far as it goes, but you will soon run up against the brick wall of the police and the army. So, you have to be prepared to organise people to go beyond pacifism if you are really serious about winning. Ghandi only succeeded in achieving a partial break with colonialism. India today is a pauper nation--there are more poor people in India today than the total population of Africa. It was only a very limited victory and that was because the Brits were terrfied of the spread of Communism after the Sceond World War. That threat has gone for the time being.

How about establishing a Middle Eastern Social Forum? Now that would be a start.

Hmm. I went to the registrat of the domain, which is  http://www.wildwestdomains.com and clicked "WHOIS" and looked up the owner of the domain. You can do this yourself to see what I'm pasting below.

Here are the owners of that website:

Registrant: Acts of Conscience P.O. Box 3304 New York, New York 10025 United States Registered through: Domains875.com Domain Name: JEWSRENOUNCE.ORG Created on: 05-Feb-03 Expires on: 05-Feb-04 Last Updated on: 15-Feb-03 Administrative Contact: Officer, Informatoin  yale@divest-from-israel-campaign.org Acts of Conscience P.O.Box 3304 New York, New York 10025 United States (212) 732-1380 Technical Contact: Officer, Information  yale@divest-from-israel-campaign.org Acts of Conscience P.O.Box 3304 New York, New York 10025 United States (212) 732-1380 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ACEHOST.COM NS2.ACEHOST.COM

WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED?

What the person who posted at the top of this thread is not true. It is not "British Jews" who did this. The site owners are in New YOrk, and their contact email address is the Yale "Divest from Israel" campaign which calls for discrimination in the worldplace against Jewish Israelis, to hold them responsible for what OTHER jewish israelis do.

Essentially, people who want to urge the world to discriminate against jewish people of israeli citizenship are the people who are behind this.

Very unsavory people.

You can sign here:

 http://pages.britishlibrary.net/redmagic/Return/

This page is hosted on the web site of the British Library.

Sounds OK to me...perhaps the other website mentioned is contaminated, but so long as the text of the letter stands - there is no need to use anything but the above URL.

Best wishes,

Mr Tom


WHOIS:

Registrant:
British Library (BRITISHLIBRARY2-DOM)
Boston Spa
Wetherby
GB

Domain Name: BRITISHLIBRARY.NET

Administrative Contact:
British Library (29540857O)  john.lowery@bl.uk
British Library
Boston Spa
Wetherby
UK
01937546551 fax: 01937 546586
Technical Contact:
Easynet Group plc (EH-ORG)  domreg@EASYNET.NET
Easynet Group plc
44-46 Whitfield Street
W1P 5RF
GB
+44 171 681 4444 fax: - - +44 171 681 4445

Record expires on 29-Jul-2003.
Record created on 29-Jul-1999.
Database last updated on 6-May-2003 06:33:56 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS0.EASYNET.CO.UK 195.40.1.250
NS1.EASYNET.CO.UK 195.40.0.250

Divest-from-israel-campaign.org is an activist site campaigning against investment in Israel, and for a boycott of Israeli goods. The poster calling him/herself WHOIS is merely distracting from the issue posted here in the first place - that there are plenty of jews worldwide disagreeing with Israel's politics of state terrorism.

Im sure Israel can do quite well without a bunch of whining self hating Jews!

It's not about self-hating jews, it's about an individual's morals. I'm quite sure that many Jews worlwide do not believe in what the Israeli *government* is doing. It's as simple as that, this is just one way to express that opinion.

Isn't it time you posted something with facts is it, rather than your usual racist Zionist crap?

'self-hating jews' indeed! They don't hate themselves, they just don't agree with you and people like you who want to steal Arab land for a Jewish state. Neutrei Karta appears to disagree for religious reasons as well as moral - why not try to refute their religious arguments, rather than just disparaging them as 'self-hating'?

By the way, if you don't hate yourself, perhaps I can help you out?

Love and kisses,
Bri.

Brian I am not Jewish. I am not a Zionist. I am an anti racist whether directed at the Jewish people, blacks, hispanics, Arabs, Muslims. It bothers me to see progressives single out one group and use dubious neo Nazi sources, statements out of contex, statements collectively attributed to a group made by one member of a group. You accept any source, convict with proper hearings, take at face value any defamation as long as it is directed at Jews. Brian, face it, you are a Jew hater. Dont try to sanitize your hatred by masking it as "Anti-Zionist" we no that is a code word for--Jew hatred. Brian, get a life.

If the Swiss government was had a "disputed territory" and was doing to its inhabitants what the Israel government is doing, there would be uproar. Surely you can see that ?

But even if only two people objected, would you want to call them racist ? Anti-Swiss ?

Unless you call them that (which is obviously very silly) then your accusations here must be simply because the people criticised are jews. ie you are treating jews as different from other people, and demanding that others do the same. In which case, it is YOU that are the racist.

Please try to understand.

JEWS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE (surely you must agree ?)

SO THEY CAN BE CRITICISED EXACTLY AS MUCH AS EVERYONE ELSE (how can you possibly not agree ?)

You are either a very silly person, or you are a very prejudiced racist without realising it. I understand the really bad racists are absolutely blind to their condition, and just can't get it.

If you read the capitalised sentences above through, again and again very slowly and carefully, the light just might begin to dawn.