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Banned pupil is 'silly girl' says judge

Clare Dyer | 03.05.2003 09:53

A high court judge yesterday modified an exclusion order on a teenager banned from school for 30 days after she organised a demonstration outside the school against the war in Iraq. Mr Justice Collins branded Elena Grice, 15, "a very silly girl" and said she had been justifiably disciplined over clashes with the school authorities, and not just over the demonstration.

Banned pupil is 'silly girl' says judge

Clare Dyer, legal correspondent
Saturday May 3, 2003
The Guardian

A high court judge yesterday modified an exclusion order on a teenager banned from school for 30 days after she organised a demonstration outside the school against the war in Iraq.

Mr Justice Collins branded Elena Grice, 15, "a very silly girl" and said she had been justifiably disciplined over clashes with the school authorities, and not just over the demonstration.

Nevertheless, he said, she should be allowed to return to complete her studies and take seven GCSEs, though not to mix freely with other pupils.

The civil rights organisation Liberty took Elena's case to court after the board of governors at the Helena Romanes school in Dunmow, Essex, decided on Monday to uphold the headteacher's decision to exclude her for 30 school days, from March 24 to May 20.

The judge warned Elena, who was not in court, that she was on "a knife edge" and any further bad behaviour, including a refusal to wear full school uniform, could result in full exclusion. "She is a very silly girl, but even silly girls are entitled to a proper opportunity to achieve what they can best achieve."

The judge said one of the conditions for her being allowed to complete her studies would be an apology for allegedly "greatly upsetting" one teacher by calling her a "fascist cow".

Liberty had argued that the ban infringed her right to free speech and freedom of assembly, but that was "totally the wrong way to look at it," said the judge. It was her disruptive and sometimes "appalling" behaviour which had led to the exclusion decision.

The court was told that Elena, from Rayne in Essex, had already been allowed back to school but was still refusing to wear a school tie.

The judge said if Elena had merely led the demonstration, in which around 500 pupils and some parents and teachers took part, he doubted "anything serious" would have happened.

 http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,5500,948559,00.html

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String Up The Judge

03.05.2003 12:08

As the saying goes - there ain't no justice - just us. Judges are p[art of the establishment and as such should not be seen as 'legitimate' by any of the working class.
This judge obviously sanction s murder as long as it isn't on his/hers doorstep.

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Very Silly Judge

03.05.2003 17:10

Well done Elena. I am proud of you.

Your headteacher is a complete idiot who has needlessly harmed your chances of passing your GCSEs. He should resign immediately. And the judge is a pompous, sanctimonious old fool. Both of them should be kicked upstairs.

In Manchester, some headteachers reacted in a reasonable and sensible way to the prospect of a school strike against the war. One secondary school head announced that he was against the war himself. He told the children in his school that if they brought a note into school from their parents granting permission, he would support their right to attend the protest. Over 400 children from his school did so and attended the demonstration without any problem.

In another school, in an Asian area of the city, there was an attempt to physically prevent children from attending the protest (the gates were locked) and "only" 200 managed to get out of the school.

Around 2000 schoolchildren in Manchester protested that day, black and white, working class and middle class. It was a joy to behold.

Manchester Teacher


misleading comments

03.05.2003 17:32

The Judge didn't complain about her attending the protest, she was excluded for insubordination and rudeness and refusal to follow the rules that everyone else must obey in a school.

Try reading the article again!

Refusal to follow the rules means the school are within their rights to expel her. Everybody must obey simple rules in school, discipline and rules are part of life in a civilised democracy. The Judge himself said the protest was fine "The judge said if Elena had merely led the demonstration, in which around 500 pupils and some parents and teachers took part, he doubted "anything serious" would have happened.".

She IS a very silly girl.

sense


incredibly patronising

03.05.2003 17:44

What a stupid, patronising judge.

Well done Elena, don't let them grind you down.

travelcard


stupid judge and good student

03.05.2003 18:26

The other posters here are right, that judge is a patronising idiot. Sense, you sound like a right winger. I go to school and I went on protests when they declared war- we only got a 2hr afterschool detention though. I may sound like some adolescent 'rebel' here, but school is very bad and I think its really made me very dependent and mechanical, and it teaches us to respect authority etc. School forces curriculums on me- 'they' think they know what is best for me and that I am stupid and need to have their curriculums forced upon me, and this completely stops me learning. I have very little time to read the many books I want to read thanks to school (well I kind of do- evenings and weekends, but a lot of this time I spend recovering from school or relaxing or something, and especially due to homework and revision I have little time for my own learning). I expect someone might reply with 'and how exactly CAN you read those books? thanks to school!', but authoritarian, undemocratic, curriculum schooling is not the only way to learn things.

hj


Charge for contempt

05.05.2003 19:08

A person wearing a sheep on his head calling a sensible schoolgirl "silly" ought to be reported to his correction mistress, I say!!!

Where are you Cynthia Payne???

3-line Whip


I am in for any discipline!!!!!

05.05.2003 19:14

>>>>>

OOOOOoooooohhhhhh!!!

I am a discipline and rules person, meself!!!

What is it going to be today, eh? Matron, headmistress, Mother Superior, nurse, policewoman...???

I am all for punishment too!!!

Hit me with your rythmn stick!!!!!

Ooohhh, ouch ouch, arrgh, ooohhhh......

Judge not4 What I am