He should have not been there. Gaza is a war zone. If you are stupid enough to get hurt it is your own fault. Gaza is no holiday destination like Tenerife or Ibiza.

If Israelis weren't occupying Palestine, perhaps they wouldn't be getting killed.
If British forces hadn't invaded Iraq, they wouldn't have had to deal with the tricky phenomenon known as "American friendly fire".
If non-embedded journalists hadn't been trying to do their job in Baghdad, they wouldn't have been killed by fire from a US tank...

Why no one mention what really goes on ?

There are explosive smuggling tunnels under the border in raffah.

Dont worry all, "israels" turn for the chop will come soon. There will be a war on israel, with all the worlds good people fighting against it. The evil cult known as "zionism" which has brought destruction and death to the entire middle east will vanish and peace will rein again on earth. The deaths of the brave ISM volunteers will not be in vain, they will never be forgotten.

I guess the truth is some times hard too accept ..
especially when it is controlled by a bunch of zionazis ..
Gaza a war zone, I wasn't aware of that, do you mean that someone has invaded ? wot will the UN and the International community to do now ? perhaps one more new resolution the final ultimatum before an american led invasion ..

and fuck U 2 .... Julie/ Jewly or whatever kind of creepy crawly you are, if your older than 12 and can really remember thatcher ... if not wait in line for a few years .

I really like this cheapskate way of playing the victim, this "...anti-Semitic friends" bullshit of equating anti-occupation as anti-Semitic.

A lot of Jews are in fact against the I"D"Fnazi occupation and massacres in the occupied territories.

And Palestinians are semites.

The nazis in Isreal are very anti-semitic too, then.

The old and dodgy trick of playing the "anti-semitic" card no longer works.

"Yesterday's victims become today's victimisers" Professor Y. Liebowitz (Jewish).

Comments like "GOOD. these shitty "peace" activists can f of with their middle class thatcherite peace. kill em all! there´s a war going on. " really make one wonder if some people really ARE descendants of the Neanderthals.

Another posted said that the two deaths will not be in vain. You got that right! I will fight apartheid and Zionism until the day I die.

Well, opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one. Julie - our little apologist for the squalid racist Israeli apartheid sate - is simply a bit more flatuent than most.

As for running anybody over with a tractor, don't let your mouth cut cheques your arse can't cash. I'ts easy to posture from behind the keyboard, but a bit more difficult on the ground in the occupied Gaza strip. Put on your Zahal uniform and come on over, 'ya Arnab'. We'll be waiting.

As for Iraq. Wait and see. Saddam is gone - good riddance - but the Iraqi people remain and the US-British occupation will continue. Even now, UK and US soldiers are shooting the civilians they came to 'liberate' and encouraged to loot. And resistance will spread. My hunch is that US and UK soldiers will continue to come home in body bags - in ones and twos- for years to come.

Condolences to the friends and family of ISM volunteer Thomas Hurndall. His courage and sacrifice will never be forgotten by the Palestinian people.

... I don't object to the idea of pulling material from this site, if it is obscene, pornographic or encouraging criminal behaviour etc etc ...

... but the problem here is that the comments HAVE been posted and the thread later on continues the theme and produces debate - and now this thread is meaningless as a dialogue and/or as a [historical] document. This can only be discribed as censorship I'm afraid.

Now I don't mind being insulted, or even threatened with being run over by Julies imaginary bulldozer - I'm a stoic sort and can defend my argument without undue hysteria - but what I do mind is the 'rewriting' of the record here.

Let Julie stand by her words and let the grown ups here judge her as they judge me - according to their own belief and opinion - after all, its not as if we can be shielded from the effects of similar mindsets, as the people of Iraq are finding out. We need to face the truth full on and confront whatever distortions and prejudice that would assume preminance. This is no longer possible in this thread.

I would be glad of any infomation regarding the nature of the discussion that lead to this act of 'sanitising' this thread - mostly because I imagine it was done with the best intentions (see the 'road to hell'!).

For those wishing to catch up on this issue, you might try searching for either 'julie' or 'jackslucid' and see if the original posts are still in the database (and if they are it kind of makes a mockery of the act of removing them - if they aren't it compounds the error!)

Peace to all at IMC UK.

jackslucid, i don't care if the thread is 'disrupted'. this is not a free speech forum. there's lots of nazis posting to this wire and wayward stuff will be pulled. to see the discussion about what to pull, how the politics of imcuk are discussed and how middle columns sections are proposed see the public archive of the features list to which anyone can post btw. and any hidden article can be seen anyway in the editorial admin pages, go to  http://uk.indymedia.org:8081/censor.php3 (recommended read for the censorship conspiracists) and follow the link to editorial admin.

nazis fuck off, there's no forum for you here.