BBC ATTACKED
Millennium Leia | 29.03.2003 15:11
BBC disagreed and rejected a wide majority of criticisms of bias and pro-government war led agenda at a public discussion with BBC Deputy Editor Mark Damazar and Stop The War Coalition Andrew Murray organised by Media Workers Against The War on Thursday March 27. People in the audience failed to get responses about concerns about the BBC’s failure to give independent coverage relecting public opinion under its public service status thus questioning its role in the coverage.ar on Thursday March 27. The failure to respond to public concerns clearly undermined the BBC’s public service status and questioned its role in the coverage.
Damazar expressed scepticism and disagreement that the BBC was attempting to undermine peace campaigners and anti-war sentiment in the country. In response to overwhelming criticism with harsh examples of poor unsubstantiated reporting in favour of government. He stated: "We do a good job occasionally we make mistakes. We disagree that is all I can say about it."
Damazar’s comments come in the light of the latest BBC memo issued by his superior Richard Sandbrook who says: "We may sometimes be nobbled by anti-war campaigners … even extremists".
Further evidence of this was revealed by an audience member describing a situation where two independent journalists met with BBC’s Penny Rout on footage of the Fairford Demo. She stated the intention was to secure footage showing "anti-capitalist infiltration in the peace movement".
This was denied by Damazar who failed to offer an explanation or further discussion on the matter.
Several comments made by the broad range of individuals who attended the discussion on BBC coverage about the war are mentioned below:
AL JAZEERA – There has been a direct conflict of reporting with opposing stations. Paul Adams of the BBC claimed that 8,000 Iraqi soldiers had been captured but at the same time Al Jazeera was interviewing the commander of the 8,000 strong-unit that had obviously not been captured.
MISINFORMATION – A mid east correspondent who had returned from Pakistan and Afghanistan claimed that people in these two countries one a military dictatorship, the other occupied were better informed about world opinion and facts about this war then people in this country.
POWs – MATT FREI of the BBC claimed the showing of POWs was against the Geneva Convention but failed to mention US failure to grant the same status to individuals including one Briton held in Guantanamo Bay without trial or rights.
IRAQI OFFICIALS – On the first day of the war, the BBC led with the story that Deputy PM Tarek Aziz had been killed or fled. This was soon undermined after he appeared well and in his post on Al Jazeera TV. The BBC has since undermined the Iraqi Ambassador to the UK by constantly interrupting and not allowing him to answer questions on Newsnight.
MEDIA – The importance of media propaganda has been highlighted by MOD officials but also evident from the fact that modern day warfare US tactics require the shelling of TV stations in conflict countries.
MISLEADING – BBC unsubstantiated claims of a BASRA uprising was given the lead on the 10’o clock news without any corroboration or independent reports outside the army. This story was clearly false and has since resulted in further scepticism of the public broadcaster.
IMAGES – Images shown on the BBC seem to concentrate on artillery, fireworks (ie bombs), night vision and calm streets but avoids showing destruction, civilian deaths and injuries. It took the GUARDIAN, the INDEPENDENT to highlight civilian deaths and casualties due to the heavy bombing onslaught from US and UK military in Basra.
TALKS – Discussions held by Mark Urban were heavily criticised for having little or no local knowledge or input with heavy army tactical led information.
LANGUAGE – BBC has long since been known to use loaded words undermining political ideologies not acceptable to state governments. In reports about Argentina’s now mass poor it described rioting and looting in direct contradiction to BBC WORLD SERVICE which highlighted that poor starving people were stealing food – very different to the use of words rioting and looting.
NOW words like neutralise or being used instead of killing
IRAQI PEOPLE – Contrary to claims that civilians were not able to talk about their government and the invasion openly. An independent Spanish reporter said it had been incredibly easy to get a report from an Iraqi woman on both of these subjects. Neither of the Iraqi subjects comments were favourable either to the regime or the invasion but she talked openly.
BUSH AND BLAIR – The heavy biased coverage given to two world leaders, one not having the support of his own electorate and neither having any international consenus for what is now an illegitimate act by two aggressing countries.
RIGHT TO REPLY
MARK DAMAZAR : "We do a good job and occasionally we make mistakes. We disagree that is all I can say about it".
Apart from a bizarre anecdote about red and blue bus – no factual comments were made about any of the precise criticisms made by people in the audience.
Commented on the importance of balance, objectivity and fairness without mentioning how the BBC was to achieve any of this.
Denied a centralised news agenda led by a pro-economic framework, government or Alistair Mitchell. Used the fact that in his experience Newsnight had never been given a lead.
ANDREW MURRAY MWAW (MEDIA WORKERS AGAINST THE WAR)
Stated BBC still had less of an impact than Rupert Murdoch’s print and broadcast empire. Stated government has a script about an illegitimate war which has no international or domestic support but the BBC should be minded to be a public service broadcaster.
But Murray referred to the latest memo from Richard Sandbrook mentioned at above and how it could undermine independent coverage by sending out the wrong message.
Damazar’s comments come in the light of the latest BBC memo issued by his superior Richard Sandbrook who says: "We may sometimes be nobbled by anti-war campaigners … even extremists".
Further evidence of this was revealed by an audience member describing a situation where two independent journalists met with BBC’s Penny Rout on footage of the Fairford Demo. She stated the intention was to secure footage showing "anti-capitalist infiltration in the peace movement".
This was denied by Damazar who failed to offer an explanation or further discussion on the matter.
Several comments made by the broad range of individuals who attended the discussion on BBC coverage about the war are mentioned below:
AL JAZEERA – There has been a direct conflict of reporting with opposing stations. Paul Adams of the BBC claimed that 8,000 Iraqi soldiers had been captured but at the same time Al Jazeera was interviewing the commander of the 8,000 strong-unit that had obviously not been captured.
MISINFORMATION – A mid east correspondent who had returned from Pakistan and Afghanistan claimed that people in these two countries one a military dictatorship, the other occupied were better informed about world opinion and facts about this war then people in this country.
POWs – MATT FREI of the BBC claimed the showing of POWs was against the Geneva Convention but failed to mention US failure to grant the same status to individuals including one Briton held in Guantanamo Bay without trial or rights.
IRAQI OFFICIALS – On the first day of the war, the BBC led with the story that Deputy PM Tarek Aziz had been killed or fled. This was soon undermined after he appeared well and in his post on Al Jazeera TV. The BBC has since undermined the Iraqi Ambassador to the UK by constantly interrupting and not allowing him to answer questions on Newsnight.
MEDIA – The importance of media propaganda has been highlighted by MOD officials but also evident from the fact that modern day warfare US tactics require the shelling of TV stations in conflict countries.
MISLEADING – BBC unsubstantiated claims of a BASRA uprising was given the lead on the 10’o clock news without any corroboration or independent reports outside the army. This story was clearly false and has since resulted in further scepticism of the public broadcaster.
IMAGES – Images shown on the BBC seem to concentrate on artillery, fireworks (ie bombs), night vision and calm streets but avoids showing destruction, civilian deaths and injuries. It took the GUARDIAN, the INDEPENDENT to highlight civilian deaths and casualties due to the heavy bombing onslaught from US and UK military in Basra.
TALKS – Discussions held by Mark Urban were heavily criticised for having little or no local knowledge or input with heavy army tactical led information.
LANGUAGE – BBC has long since been known to use loaded words undermining political ideologies not acceptable to state governments. In reports about Argentina’s now mass poor it described rioting and looting in direct contradiction to BBC WORLD SERVICE which highlighted that poor starving people were stealing food – very different to the use of words rioting and looting.
NOW words like neutralise or being used instead of killing
IRAQI PEOPLE – Contrary to claims that civilians were not able to talk about their government and the invasion openly. An independent Spanish reporter said it had been incredibly easy to get a report from an Iraqi woman on both of these subjects. Neither of the Iraqi subjects comments were favourable either to the regime or the invasion but she talked openly.
BUSH AND BLAIR – The heavy biased coverage given to two world leaders, one not having the support of his own electorate and neither having any international consenus for what is now an illegitimate act by two aggressing countries.
RIGHT TO REPLY
MARK DAMAZAR : "We do a good job and occasionally we make mistakes. We disagree that is all I can say about it".
Apart from a bizarre anecdote about red and blue bus – no factual comments were made about any of the precise criticisms made by people in the audience.
Commented on the importance of balance, objectivity and fairness without mentioning how the BBC was to achieve any of this.
Denied a centralised news agenda led by a pro-economic framework, government or Alistair Mitchell. Used the fact that in his experience Newsnight had never been given a lead.
ANDREW MURRAY MWAW (MEDIA WORKERS AGAINST THE WAR)
Stated BBC still had less of an impact than Rupert Murdoch’s print and broadcast empire. Stated government has a script about an illegitimate war which has no international or domestic support but the BBC should be minded to be a public service broadcaster.
But Murray referred to the latest memo from Richard Sandbrook mentioned at above and how it could undermine independent coverage by sending out the wrong message.
Millennium Leia
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TV License is UP. Don't pay it!!
29.03.2003 15:33
agu
stuff the bbc
29.03.2003 16:24
if they aint gonna report the news lets take it to them.
peace
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surrender to the apes?
29.03.2003 16:32
vrajavala
Biased Boring Korporation
29.03.2003 16:42
Trinidad and Tobago?
County Kerry?
The Isle of Wight?
My mate Brian?
Meanwhile, the IRAQUI missile struch Kuwait.
BBC Information?
BBC Shite.
Eco Vegan
selling necessary illusions - the BBC
30.03.2003 00:42
The BBC's claim to 'impartial' journalism is a joke. Examples are to numerous to quote - following the East Timor independence referendum the BBC were unable to 'see' the Indonesian army attacking civilians. The US state dept. owned up the next day, when the pretext of 'rogue elements' could no longer be maintained. Suddenly the BBC had a rare contact with reality! Indonesian troops were indeed conducting a massacre. Maybe the BBC should change their charter for a new oath of allegiance:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the multinationals and to the profit for which they stand.
One interlocking directorate, under no government, indivisible, with monopoly and cheap labour for all.
Oh, and the ridiculous Windsors.
Austin Fletcher
e-mail: Fletcherau@hotmail.com
I wish I'd seen that!
30.03.2003 09:42
John Cowley
Homepage: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stephen.cowley1/
The BBC
30.03.2003 11:30
Shame on the BBC for lying about public opinion.
cat
BBC guilty
30.03.2003 13:44
BBC has not credibility any more.One must be blind,not
to see BBC is pro war,pro empire.BBC is guilty of mass-deceit and manipulation of the population in favor of mass-genocide.BBC = War Criminal Corp.
Boycott BBC.
Nasi
Withold the licence fee?
30.03.2003 23:00
I too have been thinking about witholding the licence fee. TV is all crap anyway - be better off without it.
If enough of us pledged ourselves ready to withold, they might look to change their ways.
Richard Lawson
e-mail: rlawson@gn.apc.org
Homepage: http://www.greenhealth.org.uk
Biased crap but free of adverts
31.03.2003 08:56
Stewart
e-mail: stewartgstevens@yaho.co.uk
BBC IMPERIAL JOURNALISM ON ALL CHANNELS
01.04.2003 14:38
Get down to BBC World Service, BUSH HOUSE on the Strand 6pm tonight, to show your disgust. Not only do taxes pay for war they also pay for the packaging that it arrives in.
Anthony Iles
BBC IMPERIAL JOURNALISM ON ALL CHANNELS
01.04.2003 14:42
Get down to BBC World Service, BUSH HOUSE on the Strand 6pm tonight, to show your disgust. Not only do taxes pay for war they also pay for the packaging that it arrives in.
Anthony Iles
e-mail: a_529@hotmail.com
The BBC
01.04.2003 21:12
Chairman to the BBC Gavin Davis's wife is secretary to Gordon Brown part of the Labour Government.
Jayesh Patel
e-mail: dumlers@yahoo.co.uk
Enough chit chat about a Major TV CO.
02.04.2003 00:39
TV´s in Western countries are just and only Tentacles
of their Owners:The small !Super-Super! Rich Elite who owns Every other MAJOR institutions in the World (Governs,Military,Corporations,Media......all interrelated)
The same small elite.The REALLY Dangerous Threat for continuity of life on Earth,as we know.
(And by the way they Don´t Care at All...Actually they
enjoy and are Delight with war,genocide and Infanticide).
Millions of TV addicts(The mass brain washed population who obediently feed this vicious cercle and gives them their power)These TV addicts has now an Alternative.After all we can choose our sources for NEWS and entertainment.
Or... is that TV is such a "good companion,comfortable,entertaining,!trustful unquestionable!", that we just can´t do without it?????? Plainly TV is a weapon not to be underestitated.It makes as a brainless-hartless-mindless Robot-mind-slaves, to serve TV owners dark,dark,dark,pourposes. We support these Monsters by give them our attention and therefore we become unawarely accomplices of our own Deception.TV addiction can be overcome(I am an alcoholic anonym for 12 years and 1year in recovery from TV)Thanks to Internet and sites like this one e. g.,...TV addict anonimous is not a joke,is a very serious,pandemical,unacknoledged issue...We have allready swallowed the BLUE pill.But we have the RED one.
TV addicts to start recovery !Now!.Kill TV.
Nasi
Nasi
Najaf's Massacre: An Error...
02.04.2003 10:54
Najaf's Massacre: An Error...
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Strip Retry
02.04.2003 10:57
Strip Retry
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BBC BIAS ?
02.04.2003 13:35
BW
Further mistakes
03.04.2003 10:55
On Monday night both the 10 O'Clock News on BBC and Newsnight showed footage of an american soldier standing on top of a tank and screaming hysterically about wanting to continue and shouring "boom" several times. The very same footage was shown on Sky the evening before. Both Sky and BBC claimed that the event had occured on the same day. Judging by the level of accurcay in reporting so far, for all we know it could have been from the last Gulf War. Meanwhile it's impossible to get into Al Jazeera in English!
Alana
e-mail: alana.lentin@qeh.ox.ac.uk
Further mistakes
03.04.2003 10:55
On Monday night both the 10 O'Clock News on BBC and Newsnight showed footage of an american soldier standing on top of a tank and screaming hysterically about wanting to continue and shouring "boom" several times. The very same footage was shown on Sky the evening before. Both Sky and BBC claimed that the event had occured on the same day. Judging by the level of accurcay in reporting so far, for all we know it could have been from the last Gulf War. Meanwhile it's impossible to get into Al Jazeera in English!
Alana
e-mail: alana.lentin@qeh.ox.ac.uk