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Can anyone answer this question?

Mellian | 24.03.2003 04:59

How can I justify my opposition to war if I cannot effectively answer a question in this mp3 recording of a radio talk show...?

 http://komo1000news.com/audio/kvi_aircheck_031003.mp3

"How exactly will leaving Saddam in power promote peace and justice in Iraq?"

"There will be civilian deaths in the war. Saddam has killed two million people. There are families here in this country who lost twenty or thirty people on one day in a gas attack by Saddam Hussein, little girl. And I will tell you this: yes civilians will die; my cousins will die, maybe, Allah forbid. But here's a certainty that you do not understand in your simplistic, nickelodeon diplomacy, is that you are guaranteed to have civilians die under Saddam."

-Mohammed 0:43-1:12

Mellian
- e-mail: melanie_ottawa@hotmail.com

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what a crap

24.03.2003 05:22

the Iraqi misery started when we wanted Saddam to fight Iran. We gave him money and military and logistic support. At the same time we armed Iran. That is backwarded but it was a well planned and strategical success.
Reagan/bush were in love with Saddam. It was unpatriotic to report the abuses of Saddam gainst his own people and kurds.
The problem is: do you think that Iraqis want a Saddam 2?
Don't delude yourself in believing that the excrements Bush/Blair have some feelings for the soffering of Iraqis. They never gave a shit, they are interesting about transnational corporations so they need oil and water.

machno


Bigger picture

24.03.2003 10:38

Attributing the million deaths in the Iraq/Iran war, and the million or so deaths due to sanctions, solely to Saddam is disingenous. We supported and encouraged Saddam to fight Iran, and we imposed the sanctions.


I think you can answer the question by asking "How will continuing our policy of interventionism in Arab affairs promote peace and justice in Iraq?"


In fact the presumption that this conflict will be limited to Iraq is also wrong headed. Blair and Bush have already declared that Iran is a rogue state that needs to be controlled. It would not surprise me if after this war has finished, we see Iraqi soldiers going to war against Iran again, just as we paid Afghan warlords to fight against the Taliban.

mark


Put It In Context

24.03.2003 11:37

Saddam Hussein's atrocities have not been committed in peace time. His massacre of the Southern Marsh Arabs in 1991, for instance, was committed within the context of attempting to hold together a nation in the wake of having it's infrastructure entirely shatterted by US/UK forces. In addition to this all support by US/UK forces for the Marsh Arabs was rapidly withdrawn as soon as it became clear that Saddam Husseins regime may be overthrown in support of the Iranian Revolution.

The same story is shamefully repeated in the North regarding Kurdish separatism. This doesn't justify anything, it just puts the correct context back in place. The regime in Iraq has spent the last 20 years stumbling from crisis to crisis. Whether each crisis is borne out of external aggression or internal oppression the only recurrent theme all the way down the brutal line is US/UK complicity in either allowing atrocities to occur, or actively maufacturing their creation.

REGIME CHANGE BEGINS AT HOME.

James Venables


he is right

24.03.2003 13:59

Yes, the Saddam regime has killed 2 million in 24 years. Now, how many Iraqis have died in 12 years because of Coalition attacks and embargo-as-leverage policy?
2 million (if you split the embargo/sanctions deaths between Baghdad and Washington DC).

Hence, US/UK kill Iraqis twice as effective as Saddam.

Another example of 'que se vayan todos', I'd say...

encarta