Israel is depriving those poor Palestinians of their rights..ridiculous.
Tell me what about those innocent Israeli citizens who are blown to pieces by Palestinian terrorists...
Don't they have any rights ...like the most fundamental right that is to LIVE?
Any hardship the Palestinians have suffered is caused by their own refusal to make Peace and stop killing Israeli civilians.
The Palestinians COULD have had their own state. Unfortunately for too many Palestinians, the destruction of Israel was in fact, their real goal.
If you dont know, the Palestinians have no intention of signing a final peace agreement. They want to maintain the conflict, because they think by a campaign of mass murder will force Jews to leave Israel, so Israel becomes the 22nd Arab dictatorship.
I have 2 words for you: Arab Rejectionism. Take it from there.
Nothing will change for the Palestinians, because its not about their state its about destroying Israel. The Palestinians live in bad conditions, because their leaders keep them in it, not because of Israel. Its not in the Pal leaders best interest to normalize life for their people. If they did, there would be no need for them.
The Palestinians were offered a state at Camp David and Taba, but they refused to accept it, because there would also be a Jewish state, that Arafat wouldn't control
Finally, the Palestinians are not OCCUPIED by Israel. They all live under the control of the Palestinian Authority and any human rights abuses they suffer are caused by Arafat not Israel.
The Israeli army only goes into Palestinian areas, when Palestinians from this area, massacre Jews in shopping malls, disco's, weddings, buses, pizzeria's and cafe's. These Arabs don't say anything about Jewish children being targeted by Arab terrorists, who are told to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible, so they can be rewarded with 72 virgins.
NO war in the history of mankind has been fought with the primary goal of attacking civilians, until the Palestinians' current war against Israel. Before this intifada started, 99% of the Palestinian population was living under their own PA rule, so stop your delusional blabbing about 'occupation'.
Judging by the depravity of their behavior, Palestinians deserve nothing other than continued hardship. Certainly, they deserve no state, because that state would be a terrorist state based on killing civilians. Gandhi and MLK exemplified peaceful, honorable, ethical forms of protest, and both triumphed. Palestinians try to force their agenda through war crimes while at the same time screaming that THEY are the victims.
There is no greater personification of evil than that of Islamic demogogues who use religion to inflame the passions of the mindless exhorting them to commit murder against civilians and calling it martyrdom. The demogogues usually succeed in stealing vast sums of governmental money, benefitting from the money themselves while the masses live poverty. Welcome to Arab culture. This is the model for life in Arab countries.
When the Palestinians care more about their children, than they care about killing Jews, then no children would be killed. Until then, criticize the parents for sending their children to their deaths, in order to collect their bounty from Saddam.
The Palestinians who were offered a state by Barak, something no Arab country ever did. Barak did this, even though the Palestinians never held sovereignty over any land. That wasn't good for them, because they want all of Israel.
They chose the path of war. They chose the path of suicide bombings deliberately targeting Israeli innocents, noncombatants and children. The goal is obvious to almost all Israelis at this point: Palestinians do not want peace and certainly do not want 2 states, which is their best PR line. They only want to destroy Israel and kill as many of the Jews as possible, and eventually take it over to destroy Israel.
Soon the world will finally realize and accept that there's only one side of this war with genocidal intentions, and it's the Palestinians. They are bringing about their own destruction by choosing a path which only seeks to destroy all the Jews.
They proved it through their cowardly tactics.
They blew it but sneaking up on two year olds eating ice cream and Pizza and murdering them AS A TACTIC.
The Palestinians who reject all offers of peace, then respond by blowing up Israeli woman and children and you take there side. Are you insane?
In the last 2 years, there have been 14,500 Arab terrorist attacks against Israel. Arab massacres of whole Israeli families in the Sbarro and other restaurants. The bloodbath at a peaceful Passover seder meal attended by Holocaust survivors in Netanya. The deliberate sniper killings of so many Israeli motorists, the mowing down of Israeli mothers, fathers, children and just-born babies on the streets of Israel by cold blooded Arab killers.
Buses exploding with hundreds of innocent Israeli men, women, and children - blown to unrecognizable smithereens. Arab terrorists who blow up disco's, cafe's, weddings and supermarkets where Jewish civilians are torn to pieces. Arab terrorists placing bombs in Universities butchering Jewish students.
When do you think the Arabs will realize, that murdering Israeli pizza-eaters, dance-club people, school kids, teenagers and sleeping five-year-olds is barbaric.
Do these Arabs have any humanity.
It is becoming increasingly obvious, that the followers of Muhammed are not human beings.
Following the murderous terrorist attack on Kibbutz Metzer, the PLO cold-bloodedly stated on its official website, "We will continue to strike in any place, targeting their children as well." Five innocent Israelis, including a mother and her two little boys, were butchered in that attack, all of them, Fatah said, "Zionist colonizers" killed in a "qualitative operation in the settlement of Metzer."
Somewhere a "Palestinian" watches the BBC and sees a kibbutz, called Metzer, which is getting along with its nearby Arab villages. This cannot be permitted to continue, so two attacks are planned against the place in one day. The first is foiled but the second does the trick. The terrorist bursts into the bedroom where a mother is putting her seven and nine year old sons to sleep. First he shoots the boys in the head to make sure their mother dies in agony, then he finishes her off.
But that's still not cruel enough, so the Palestinians come up with a better plan. At 7:30 in the morning, Israeli school kids crowd the number 20 bus in Jerusalem. A Palestinian homicide bomber gets on the bus and sits exactly where the Israeli children are seated. A second later the homicide bomber blows himself up and 11 Israeli school children are butchered to pieces. CNN interviewed the father of the homicide bomber, who expained his pride and how he encouraged his son to kill the Jews. When CNN asked him, how he felt that he murdered Israeli school kids? He said how proud he was of his son's actions.
Arafat talks about this final solution.
Arafat's speech in Sweden in 1996. Arafat’s speech in front of 40 Arab diplomats in the Grand Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden, on January 30, 1996. Was called "The Impending Collapse of Israel". "We will take over everything including all of Jerusalem," he declared repeatedly. Arafat's plan has two main components aimed to cause the Jews to abandon Israel. "Within five years we will have six to seven million Arabs living on the West Bank and in Jerusalem. Arafat explained that this will be the beginning of a pressure campaign resulting within a few years in Israel's ultimate destruction. "You understand that we plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian State. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion; Jews will not want to live among us Arabs!"
On the same day in 1993 on which Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn, he spoke the following words on Jordan TV: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."
After the Tel Aviv massacre on January 12th, where 2 Palestinian homicide bombers massacred 23 Israeli civilians. The PLO web site posted a statement -- celebrating the attacks: "With faith in the calling of holy jihad," it said, "two suicide attackers . . . succeeded this evening to infiltrate the Zionist roadblocks and to enter the heart of . . . Tel Aviv and carried out two consecutive suicide attacks... These suicide attacks caused a large number of fatalities and casualties in the center of the Zionist occupation of our land. We swear before our people that additional suicide operations will occur." That is a view with which much of Arab opinion concurs. ArabicNews.com, for example, datelined its story on the Tel Aviv attack "Palestine-Israel," and reported that the bombings had killed "23 Israeli settlers." http://www.jewishworldreview.com/jeff/jacoby011003.asp
After the disco massacre last year, which murdered 21 Israeli school girls, a German TV station interviewed the father of the homicide bomber, who showed a letter he received from Arafat, where Arafat praised and glorified his son's actions. Its good to know, you think Arafat who praises when Palestinians slaughter Israeli woman and children is a man of peace. http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=countries&Area=palestinian&ID=SP23701
Following the murderous terrorist attack on Kibbutz Metzer, the PLO cold-bloodedly stated on its official website, "We will continue to strike in any place, targeting their children as well." Five innocent Israelis, including a mother and her two little boys, were butchered in that attack, all of them, Fatah said, "Zionist colonizers" killed in a "qualitative operation in the settlement of Metzer." http://www.jnewswire.com/editorial/02/11/021121_hollow_condemnations.htm
Palestinians and Arabs talks how they want to exterminate the Jews.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-120601holy.story Sheikh Muhammed Siyam, a Hamas military leader said this. "I've been told to restrict or restrain what I say. I hope no one is recording me or taking any pictures, as none are allowed, because I'm going to speak the truth to you," Siyam said at the conference. "It's simple. Finish off the Israelis. Kill them all! Exterminate them! No peace ever! Do not bother to talk politics."
Another link to this story of Hamas calling for extermination of Jews. http://www.nctimes.net/news/2001/20011207/60241.html At that conference, organized by the Muslim Arab Youth Association, Sheikh Muhammed Siyam, introduced as the head of Hamas' military wing, told the crowd: "Finish off the Israelis. Kill them all. Exterminate them. No peace ever."
Hamas terrorist chief Sheikh Ahmed Yassin explains that Palestinian terrorism will in the end destroy Israel and that the Islamic state of Palestine will be built on the ruins of Israel in 2027.
Shoshana Gottleib, a young, religious mother of four, who told her story, she was in was attacked by murderous Palestinian machine-gun fire by terrorists, and how bending down to put orange peels in a plastic bag, she avoided the bullet that went through her headrest. As it was, Shoshana was critically injured, her spinal cord severed, paralyzing her for life from the chest down. One of the most interesting parts of Shoshana's presentation was her revelation that the terrorists who opened fire on her were three policemen in Arafat's Palestinian Authority, a fourth, who was Arafat's personal bodyguard in Force 17, and a fifth who had been recruited with the promise of $500. One of the terrorists videotaped the attack on the van, and it was sent to Yasir Arafat. http://www.jewsweek.com/myturn/323.htm
Saudi Telethon Host Calls for Enslaving Jewish Women, Sheikh Ibrahim Mattsai said, "Muslim Brothers in Palestine, do not have any mercy neither compassion on the Jews, their blood, their money, their flesh. Why don't you enslave their women? Why don't you wage jihad? Why don't you pillage them?" Mattsai goes on to say. "How excited I was to hear a Palestinian child tell me that when he is 14 years old he will blow himself up and become a martyr... I praise those sons of Allah who give you and me martyrdom."
O God, the Jews have transgressed all limits in their tyranny," Shaik Abd-al-Bari al Thubayti prayed in a June 7 sermon on official Saudi TV2. "O God, shake the ground under their feet, pour torture on them, and destroy all of them." This and similar statements appear in a forthcoming Anti-Defamation League paper on Saudi bigotry. http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/saudi.html
Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi, a Palestinian Authority religious leader: "We will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv" "We will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv and in Netanya... We will fight against them and rule over them until the Jew will hide behind the trees and stones and the tree and stone will say: 'Moslem! Servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him'. We will enter Jerusalem as conquerors, and Jaffa as conquerors, and Haifa as conquerors and Ashkelon as conquerors...." [Preacher Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi, PATV, 3 August 2001] http://www.freeman.org/m_online/sep02/marcus.htm
Khalad Mashal, Hamas (Reuters, February 16): "You have no place here, on the holy land of Palestine... You will never have security in this place, not even on a single centimeter of this land. This is a call for every Palestinian to turn into a time bomb - to fight them with every means at your disposal." "Kill them! Allah will answer them through your means! I hope that there are those among you who will kill and be killed!"
The late Faisal Husseini, Arafat's Jerusalem representative, a man who was cultured, sophisticated and considered the most moderate of all the Palestinians, shortly before his death on May 31, 2001, expressed his true feelings in an interview with the popular Egyptian newspaper el Arav.
Husseini said: "We must distinguish the strategies and long-term goals from the political-phased goals which we are compelled to accept due to international pressures." But the "ultimate goal is the liberation of all of historical Palestine."
Explicitly he said: "Oslo has to be viewed as a Trojan Horse."
He even added and clarified that it is the obligation of all the Palestinian forces and factions to see the Oslo Accords as "temporary" steps to Israel's destruction.
Sari Nusseibeh is another supposed Palestinian moderate. In an interview on Al-Jazeera television on July 14, translated by Memri. Nusseibeh praised everyone involved in jihad against Israel. Explaining that he did not want to pass moral judgment on the murderers when he signed a petition a month earlier calling for an end to suicide bombers, Nusseibeh said that terrorism presents no moral dilemma, it is only a question of whether or not "political benefit" accrues from killing Israeli civilians. http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/genocide.html
One week after the Dolphinarium bombing on June 1, 2001 in Tel Aviv in which 21 people, mainly young girls, were killed, PA television carried the sermon of Sheik Ibrahim Al-Madhi. He said: “Blessings to whoever waged Jihad for the sake of Allah; blessings to whoever raided for the sake of Allah; blessings to whoever put a belt of explosives on his body or on his sons’ and plunged into the midst of the Jews, crying ‘Allahu Akbar...’ http://www.world.std.com/~camera/docs/oncamera/ocrula.html
One day after the Ramallah lynching of two Israelis, Ahmad Abu Halabiya, a member of the PA-appointed Fatwa Council, called on listeners to find and butcher Jews “no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them.” www. world.std.com/~camera/docs/oncamera/ocrula.html
On Oct. 24, the Palestinian Liberation Army Mufti, Sheikh Col. Nader Al-Tamini, said in a television debate on the Qatari Arabic cable news channel Al-Jazeera that there can be no peace with the Jews because they suck and use the blood of Arabs on the holidays of Passover and Purim.
Just four days later, the official Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram published a full-page article by columnist Adel Hamooda titled, "A Jewish Matzoh Made from Arab Blood." It retold the infamous blood libel story of 1840 in great detail, recounting it as a documented historical fact.
The author went on to explain that the Jews' "bestial drive" to add the blood of non-Jews to matzoh is at the root of the violence. He said Palestinians are often found without a single drop of blood in their bodies.
"The most reasonable explanation is that the blood was taken to be kneaded into the dough of extremist Jews to be used in Matzohs to be devoured during Passover," he wrote. Huh? That's the most reasonable explanation? The answer is yes to the hysterical propagandists of the Middle East.
Egyptian Television last November and Palestinian Television in 2001 broadcast A 30-part series -- produced by Arab Radio and Television, featuring a cast of 400, and aired during the second half of Ramadan this year -- "dramatized" the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Last March, we were treated to an article in the Saudi government daily, Al-Riyadh, describing in great detail the Jewish method of draining the blood of Muslim children to be used in baking Matza.
Last June, A Palestinian homicide bomber walked into a shopping mall in a city near Tel Aviv and spotted an ice cream parlor full of children. He detonated a nail-packed bomb, that killed Sinai Keinanan 18-month-old girl, who just wanted an ice cream cone, and killed her grandmother too. Do you know Islamikaze mother, lauded the deeds of her son, butchering a Grandmother and her 2 year old Granddaughter. When CNN asked her, how she felt that he had murdered a Grandmother and 14 month old girl. She said how proud she was of her son's actions.
Here's the story of Gal Eizenman. She was murdered with her Grandmother by a Palestinian homicide bomber at a Jerusalem bus stop, after her kindergarten party. Here's her pic http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=3328 Read the great commentaries.
Last weekend, after a suicide bomber killed eleven young Israelis at a Jerusalem cafe, and a terrorist with an automatic rifle killed a nine-month-old baby in her stroller in Netanya, thousands celebrated in the West Bank and Gaza. The following night, there was an interview with the father of the Netanya killer. He was proud of his son, saying he had five more sons whom he prayed to Allah would follow in the baby-killer's footsteps. How can you deter a killer who considers murder-suicide the greatest honor in life? Israelis cannot afford to continue enduring the terrible calculus of suicide attacks. http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ViewsPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El234&enZone=Views&enVersion=0&
Nina Kardashov was joyfully celebrating her bat-mitzvah, the rite of passage to Jewish womanhood, with her friends and family. The band was playing, couples were dancing. The proud twelve-year-old, resplendent in her party dress, had just appeared on the stage. Then, as the amateur videos so horrifically showed, the Palestinian gunman starting shooting and people started dying, including Nina's grandfather and five other celebrants. An hour later, another celebration took place. In the Palestinian city of Tulkarm, hometown of the gunman, cars honked their horns, men shot in the air, strangers embraced in the streets and handed out candy. http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ViewsPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El451&enZone=Views&enVersion=0&! ;
When Palestinians dance in the streets after hearing that Israeli civilians have been torn to pieces and charred beyond recognition, that society is expressing a kind of collective death wish. But the bombers and shooters, along with those who funds and direct them, don't just kill Israelis. They also write the death warrants for other Palestinians. They endanger and damage their own families and friends and neighbors. Actions produce consequences, and crimes invite punishment. The Palestinian Authority armed and financed the killers. Arafat called for a million of them. Parents pocketed a payoff from Saddam. http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ViewsPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El1&enZone=Views&enVersion=0&
After the massacre of men, women, and children in a Jerusalem pizzeria by a Palestinian suicide bomber, there were probably some who believed that Israel would respond with a similar act of violent bloodletting. They were to be disappointed. The F-16 missile attack on the golden-domed PA police station in Ramallah at 1:30am, long after it had been evacuated, was just a red herring, a distraction from the maneuver that Israeli forces were executing at that moment. http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ViewsPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El829&enZone=Views&enVersion=0&
That I care for the well being of tens of Palestinian cancer patients and their families is irrelevant. As a Jew living in Israel, and, more specifically, Jerusalem, I am a potential target worthy of maiming or assassination. That is the miserable nature of the Palestinian struggle for self-determination. That I am here to recount these thoughts is by sheer virtue of timing. Minutes after I passed through the Pat intersection en route to the Shaare Zedek Medical Center, bus 32 was exploded by a young suicide bomber. Almost everyone on the bus was killed, most instantly.http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ViewsPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El1172&enZone=Views&enVersion=0&
I thought about the school bus massacre a month ago, where a Palestinian suicide bomber murdered 11 people and injured 50--including many schoolchildren--aboard a crowded Israeli commuter bus in Jerusalem. Killed in the terror attack were an 8-year-old, four teenagers and six adults." Reuters reports that "witnesses said they heard children who had been on their way to school screaming 'Mamma, Mamma' from the wreckage." Hamas confessed to the atrocity.
Ehud Olmert said, "Every time I come to such a site, I can't escape the thought that a living person entered the bus, and he saw the young kid of 6, 7 years old sitting, and he blows him apart. This is something that you have to see to understand how terrible it is." The murderer's father, Azmi Abu Hilail, praised his sons actions butchering Israeli school children and said he would want his other children to become homicide bombers and murder Israeli civilians.
..why don't you join the IDF, you obviously have no sense of shame, don't have any compassion, are bent on distortion and denial ... but then again your probably a coward too, so just stay in this country and project your loyalties elsewhere ... "Soon the world will finally realize and accept that there's only one side of this war with genocidal intentions, and it's the Palestinians." For that remark you show yourself to be a contemptable fool and a marked man[sic].
I see joel's back talking out of his arse again. easy everyone, don't even attempt to criticise the Israeli authorities, that makes you an anti-semite if you do! its only one step away from being in the BNP, criticising Israel.
joel seems to think that because some palastinians kill jewish civilians the entire situation in occupied palastine is thier fault.
so- being invaded by the jews, having their land stolen, their farms detroyed, their olive groves chopped down, their houses bulldozered, their towns and villags surrounded by tanks, their economy destroyed by roadblocks that delay the movement of all goods by days on end, having their water supplies cut off, being arrested, tortured, and executed without fair trials, being shot at by tanks, helicopter gunships snipers, and Spike missile, etc.. thats all a fair a reasonable "retaliation" to the suicide bombs that a tiny minority of people detonate.
what nonsense Joel, I feel sorry for humanity 'cos of people with views like yours (usually the elites linked to capitalist/materialist agendas and corrupt/blind politics for self service. All I can say to everyone else is people like Joel are quickly becoming a minority. We must carry on the struggle for Justice for the Palestinians. Sharon has a proven record of Massacres and bloodshed, Bush and Co. ain't concerned for these poor folks either.. too many hidden agendas - and Blair ain't helping the situation. People all over the world (including ALL the major Human Rights organisations & the UN) clearly see the aggressors and perpetrators as being the State of Israel with the backing of the US and Britain. History is written by the victors and has shaped the views of ignorant people like Joel. Hamas/Hisbollah/Mossad as far as I'm concerned stem from the same sources, they were set up early in the past century in order to create a barrier to peace. The CIA and British Secret Service have links to these groups and the rhetoric coming from these groups reflects exactly what the US/UK agenda needs. The fact is human beings are all fundamentally equal. Wake up and smell the coffee Joel. Hate promotes Hate. Peace brings Peace.. that includes attitudes.. ;)
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14.03.2003 05:37
Tell me what about those innocent Israeli citizens who are blown to pieces by Palestinian terrorists...
Don't they have any rights ...like the most fundamental right that is to LIVE?
Any hardship the Palestinians have suffered is caused by their own refusal to make Peace and stop killing Israeli civilians.
The Palestinians COULD have had their own state. Unfortunately for too many Palestinians, the destruction of Israel was in fact, their real goal.
If you dont know, the Palestinians have no intention of signing a final peace agreement. They want to maintain the conflict, because they think by a campaign of mass murder will force Jews to leave Israel, so Israel becomes the 22nd Arab dictatorship.
I have 2 words for you: Arab Rejectionism. Take it from there.
Nothing will change for the Palestinians, because its not about their state its about destroying Israel. The Palestinians live in bad conditions, because their leaders keep them in it, not because of Israel. Its not in the Pal leaders best interest to normalize life for their people. If they did, there would be no need for them.
The Palestinians were offered a state at Camp David and Taba, but they refused to accept it, because there would also be a Jewish state, that Arafat wouldn't control
Finally, the Palestinians are not OCCUPIED by Israel. They all live under the control of the Palestinian Authority and any human rights abuses they suffer are caused by Arafat not Israel.
The Israeli army only goes into Palestinian areas, when Palestinians from this area, massacre Jews in shopping malls, disco's, weddings, buses, pizzeria's and cafe's. These Arabs don't say anything about Jewish children being targeted by Arab terrorists, who are told to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible, so they can be rewarded with 72 virgins.
NO war in the history of mankind has been fought with the primary goal of attacking civilians, until the Palestinians' current war against Israel. Before this intifada started, 99% of the Palestinian population was living under their own PA rule, so stop your delusional blabbing about 'occupation'.
Judging by the depravity of their behavior, Palestinians deserve nothing other than continued hardship. Certainly, they deserve no state, because that state would be a terrorist state based on killing civilians. Gandhi and MLK exemplified peaceful, honorable, ethical forms of protest, and both triumphed. Palestinians try to force their agenda through war crimes while at the same time screaming that THEY are the victims.
There is no greater personification of evil than that of Islamic demogogues who use religion to inflame the passions of the mindless exhorting them to commit murder against civilians and calling it martyrdom. The demogogues usually succeed in stealing vast sums of governmental money, benefitting from the money themselves while the masses live poverty. Welcome to Arab culture. This is the model for life in Arab countries.
When the Palestinians care more about their children, than they care about killing Jews, then no children would be killed. Until then, criticize the parents for sending their children to their deaths, in order to collect their bounty from Saddam.
The Palestinians who were offered a state by Barak, something no Arab country ever did. Barak did this, even though the Palestinians never held sovereignty over any land. That wasn't good for them, because they want all of Israel.
They chose the path of war. They chose the path of suicide bombings deliberately targeting Israeli innocents, noncombatants and children. The goal is obvious to almost all Israelis at this point: Palestinians do not want peace and certainly do not want 2 states, which is their best PR line. They only want to destroy Israel and kill as many of the Jews as possible, and eventually take it over to destroy Israel.
Soon the world will finally realize and accept that there's only one side of this war with genocidal intentions, and it's the Palestinians. They are bringing about their own destruction by choosing a path which only seeks to destroy all the Jews.
They proved it through their cowardly tactics.
They blew it but sneaking up on two year olds eating ice cream and Pizza and murdering them AS A TACTIC.
The Palestinians who reject all offers of peace, then respond by blowing up Israeli woman and children and you take there side. Are you insane?
In the last 2 years, there have been 14,500 Arab terrorist attacks against Israel. Arab massacres of whole Israeli families in the Sbarro and other restaurants. The bloodbath at a peaceful Passover seder meal attended by Holocaust survivors in Netanya. The deliberate sniper killings of so many Israeli motorists, the mowing down of Israeli mothers, fathers, children and just-born babies on the streets of Israel by cold blooded Arab killers.
Buses exploding with hundreds of innocent Israeli men, women, and children - blown to unrecognizable smithereens. Arab terrorists who blow up disco's, cafe's, weddings and supermarkets where Jewish civilians are torn to pieces. Arab terrorists placing bombs in Universities butchering Jewish students.
When do you think the Arabs will realize, that murdering Israeli pizza-eaters, dance-club people, school kids, teenagers and sleeping five-year-olds is barbaric.
Do these Arabs have any humanity.
It is becoming increasingly obvious, that the followers of Muhammed are not human beings.
Following the murderous terrorist attack on Kibbutz Metzer, the PLO cold-bloodedly stated on its official website, "We will continue to strike in any place, targeting their children as well." Five innocent Israelis, including a mother and her two little boys, were butchered in that attack, all of them, Fatah said, "Zionist colonizers" killed in a "qualitative operation in the settlement of Metzer."
Somewhere a "Palestinian" watches the BBC and sees a kibbutz, called Metzer, which is getting along with its nearby Arab villages. This cannot be permitted to continue, so two attacks are planned against the place in one day. The first is foiled but the second does the trick. The terrorist bursts into the bedroom where a mother is putting her seven and nine year old sons to sleep. First he shoots the boys in the head to make sure their mother dies in agony, then he finishes her off.
But that's still not cruel enough, so the Palestinians come up with a better plan. At 7:30 in the morning, Israeli school kids crowd the number 20 bus in Jerusalem. A Palestinian homicide bomber gets on the bus and sits exactly where the Israeli children are seated. A second later the homicide bomber blows himself up and 11 Israeli school children are butchered to pieces. CNN interviewed the father of the homicide bomber, who expained his pride and how he encouraged his son to kill the Jews. When CNN asked him, how he felt that he murdered Israeli school kids? He said how proud he was of his son's actions.
Arafat talks about this final solution.
Arafat's speech in Sweden in 1996.
Arafat’s speech in front of 40 Arab diplomats in the Grand Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden, on January 30, 1996. Was called "The Impending Collapse of Israel".
"We will take over everything including all of Jerusalem," he declared repeatedly. Arafat's plan has two main components aimed to cause the Jews to abandon Israel. "Within five years we will have six to seven million Arabs living on the West Bank and in Jerusalem. Arafat explained that this will be the beginning of a pressure campaign resulting within a few years in Israel's ultimate destruction. "You understand that we plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian State. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion; Jews will not want to live among us Arabs!"
On the same day in 1993 on which Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of
Principles on the White House lawn, he spoke the following words on Jordan TV:
"Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."
After the Tel Aviv massacre on January 12th, where 2 Palestinian homicide bombers massacred 23 Israeli civilians. The PLO web site posted a statement -- celebrating the attacks:
"With faith in the calling of holy jihad," it said, "two suicide attackers . . . succeeded this evening to infiltrate the Zionist roadblocks and to enter the heart of . . . Tel Aviv and carried out two consecutive suicide attacks... These suicide attacks caused a large number of fatalities and casualties in the center of the Zionist occupation of our land. We swear before our people that additional suicide operations will occur."
That is a view with which much of Arab opinion concurs. ArabicNews.com, for example, datelined its story on the Tel Aviv attack "Palestine-Israel," and reported that the bombings had killed "23 Israeli settlers."
After the disco massacre last year, which murdered 21 Israeli school girls, a German TV station interviewed the father of the homicide bomber, who showed a letter he received from Arafat, where Arafat praised and glorified his son's actions. Its good to know, you think Arafat who praises when Palestinians slaughter Israeli woman and children is a man of peace.
Following the murderous terrorist attack on Kibbutz Metzer, the PLO cold-bloodedly stated on its official website, "We will continue to strike in any place, targeting their children as well." Five innocent Israelis, including a mother and her two little boys, were butchered in that attack, all of them, Fatah said, "Zionist colonizers" killed in a "qualitative operation in the settlement of Metzer."
Palestinians and Arabs talks how they want to exterminate the Jews.
Sheikh Muhammed Siyam, a Hamas military leader said this. "I've been told to restrict or restrain what I say. I hope no one is recording me or taking any pictures, as none are allowed, because I'm going to speak the truth to you," Siyam said at the conference. "It's simple. Finish off the Israelis. Kill them all! Exterminate them! No peace ever! Do not bother to talk politics."
Another link to this story of Hamas calling for extermination of Jews.
At that conference, organized by the Muslim Arab Youth Association, Sheikh Muhammed Siyam, introduced as the head of Hamas' military wing, told the crowd: "Finish off the Israelis. Kill them all. Exterminate them. No peace ever."
Syrian Defence Minister Mustafa Tlass, In May 2001 stated on Lebanon television, that if every Arab kills one Jew, there will be no Jews left at all.
Hamas terrorist chief Sheikh Ahmed Yassin explains that Palestinian terrorism will in the end destroy Israel and that the Islamic state of Palestine will be built on the ruins of Israel in 2027.
Shoshana Gottleib, a young, religious mother of four, who told her story, she was in was attacked by murderous Palestinian machine-gun fire by terrorists, and how bending down to put orange peels in a plastic bag, she avoided the bullet that went through her headrest. As it was, Shoshana was critically injured, her spinal cord severed, paralyzing her for life from the chest down. One of the most interesting parts of Shoshana's presentation was her revelation that the terrorists who opened fire on her were three policemen in Arafat's Palestinian Authority, a fourth, who was Arafat's personal bodyguard in Force 17, and a fifth who had been recruited with the promise of $500. One of the terrorists videotaped the attack on the van, and it was sent to Yasir Arafat.
Saudi Telethon Host Calls for Enslaving Jewish Women, Sheikh Ibrahim Mattsai said, "Muslim Brothers in Palestine, do not have any mercy neither compassion on the Jews, their blood, their money, their flesh. Why don't you enslave their women? Why don't you wage jihad? Why don't you pillage them?" Mattsai goes on to say. "How excited I was to hear a Palestinian child tell me that when he is 14 years old he will blow himself up and become a martyr... I praise those sons of Allah who give you and me martyrdom."
O God, the Jews have transgressed all limits in their tyranny," Shaik Abd-al-Bari al Thubayti prayed in a June 7 sermon on official Saudi TV2. "O God, shake the ground under their feet, pour torture on them, and destroy all of them." This and similar statements appear in a forthcoming Anti-Defamation League paper on Saudi bigotry.
Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi, a Palestinian Authority religious leader: "We will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv"
"We will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv and in Netanya... We will fight against them and rule over them until the Jew will hide behind the trees and stones and the tree and stone will say: 'Moslem! Servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him'. We will enter Jerusalem as conquerors, and Jaffa as conquerors, and Haifa as conquerors and Ashkelon as conquerors...."
[Preacher Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi, PATV, 3 August 2001]
Khalad Mashal, Hamas (Reuters, February 16):
"You have no place here, on the holy land of Palestine... You will never have security in this place, not even on a single centimeter of this land. This is a call for every Palestinian to turn into a time bomb - to fight them with every means at your disposal."
"Kill them! Allah will answer them through your means! I hope that there are those among you who will kill and be killed!"
The late Faisal Husseini, Arafat's Jerusalem representative, a man who was cultured, sophisticated and considered the most moderate of all the Palestinians, shortly before his death on May 31, 2001, expressed his true feelings in an interview with the popular Egyptian newspaper el Arav.
Husseini said: "We must distinguish the strategies and long-term goals from the political-phased goals which we are compelled to accept due to international pressures." But the "ultimate goal is the liberation of all of historical Palestine."
Explicitly he said: "Oslo has to be viewed as a Trojan Horse."
He even added and clarified that it is the obligation of all the Palestinian forces and factions to see the Oslo Accords as "temporary" steps to Israel's destruction.
Sari Nusseibeh is another supposed Palestinian moderate.
In an interview on Al-Jazeera television on July 14, translated by Memri. Nusseibeh praised everyone involved in jihad against Israel. Explaining that he did not want to pass moral judgment on the murderers when he signed a petition a month earlier calling for an end to suicide bombers, Nusseibeh said that terrorism presents no moral dilemma, it is only a question of whether or not "political benefit" accrues from killing Israeli civilians.
One week after the Dolphinarium bombing on June 1, 2001 in Tel Aviv in which 21 people, mainly young girls, were killed, PA television carried the sermon of Sheik Ibrahim Al-Madhi. He said: “Blessings to whoever waged Jihad for the sake of Allah; blessings to whoever raided for the sake of Allah; blessings to whoever put a belt of explosives on his body or on his sons’ and plunged into the midst of the Jews, crying ‘Allahu Akbar...’
One day after the Ramallah lynching of two Israelis, Ahmad Abu Halabiya, a member of the PA-appointed Fatwa Council, called on listeners to find and butcher Jews “no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them.” www. world.std.com/~camera/docs/oncamera/ocrula.html
On Oct. 24, the Palestinian Liberation Army Mufti, Sheikh Col. Nader Al-Tamini, said in a television debate on the Qatari Arabic cable news channel Al-Jazeera that there can be no peace with the Jews because they suck and use the blood of Arabs on the holidays of Passover and Purim.
Just four days later, the official Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram published a full-page article by columnist Adel Hamooda titled, "A Jewish Matzoh Made from Arab Blood." It retold the infamous blood libel story of 1840 in great detail, recounting it as a documented historical fact.
The author went on to explain that the Jews' "bestial drive" to add the blood of non-Jews to matzoh is at the root of the violence. He said Palestinians are often found without a single drop of blood in their bodies.
"The most reasonable explanation is that the blood was taken to be kneaded into the dough of extremist Jews to be used in Matzohs to be devoured during Passover," he wrote.
Huh? That's the most reasonable explanation? The answer is yes to the hysterical propagandists of the Middle East.
Egyptian Television last November and Palestinian Television in 2001 broadcast A 30-part series -- produced by Arab Radio and Television, featuring a cast of 400, and aired during the second half of Ramadan this year -- "dramatized" the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Last March, we were treated to an article in the Saudi government daily, Al-Riyadh, describing in great detail the Jewish method of draining the blood of Muslim children to be used in baking Matza.
The racist lie that Jews drink the blood of Arabs into their matzah is graphically described in "The Matzah of Zion," published in 1983 by Syrian Defense Minister, Mustafa Tlas.
Last June, A Palestinian homicide bomber walked into a shopping mall in a city near Tel Aviv and spotted an ice cream parlor full of children. He detonated a nail-packed bomb, that killed Sinai Keinanan 18-month-old girl, who just wanted an ice cream cone, and killed her grandmother too. Do you know Islamikaze mother, lauded the deeds of her son, butchering a Grandmother and her 2 year old Granddaughter. When CNN asked her, how she felt that he had murdered a Grandmother and 14 month old girl. She said how proud she was of her son's actions.
Here's the story of Gal Eizenman. She was murdered with her Grandmother by a Palestinian homicide bomber at a Jerusalem bus stop, after her kindergarten party. Here's her pic
Last weekend, after a suicide bomber killed eleven young Israelis at a Jerusalem cafe, and a terrorist with an automatic rifle killed a nine-month-old baby in her stroller in Netanya, thousands celebrated in the West Bank and Gaza. The following night, there was an interview with the father of the Netanya killer. He was proud of his son, saying he had five more sons whom he prayed to Allah would follow in the baby-killer's footsteps. How can you deter a killer who considers murder-suicide the greatest honor in life? Israelis cannot afford to continue enduring the terrible calculus of suicide attacks.
Nina Kardashov was joyfully celebrating her bat-mitzvah, the rite of passage to Jewish womanhood, with her friends and family. The band was playing, couples were dancing. The proud twelve-year-old, resplendent in her party dress, had just appeared on the stage. Then, as the amateur videos so horrifically showed, the Palestinian gunman starting shooting and people started dying, including Nina's grandfather and five other celebrants. An hour later, another celebration took place. In the Palestinian city of Tulkarm, hometown of the gunman, cars honked their horns, men shot in the air, strangers embraced in the streets and handed out candy.
When Palestinians dance in the streets after hearing that Israeli civilians have been torn to pieces and charred beyond recognition, that society is expressing a kind of collective death wish. But the bombers and shooters, along with those who funds and direct them, don't just kill Israelis. They also write the death warrants for other Palestinians. They endanger and damage their own families and friends and neighbors. Actions produce consequences, and crimes invite punishment. The Palestinian Authority armed and financed the killers. Arafat called for a million of them. Parents pocketed a payoff from Saddam.
After the massacre of men, women, and children in a Jerusalem pizzeria by a Palestinian suicide bomber, there were probably some who believed that Israel would respond with a similar act of violent bloodletting. They were to be disappointed. The F-16 missile attack on the golden-domed PA police station in Ramallah at 1:30am, long after it had been evacuated, was just a red herring, a distraction from the maneuver that Israeli forces were executing at that moment.
That I care for the well being of tens of Palestinian cancer patients and their families is irrelevant. As a Jew living in Israel, and, more specifically, Jerusalem, I am a potential target worthy of maiming or assassination. That is the miserable nature of the Palestinian struggle for self-determination. That I am here to recount these thoughts is by sheer virtue of timing. Minutes after I passed through the Pat intersection en route to the Shaare Zedek Medical Center, bus 32 was exploded by a young suicide bomber. Almost everyone on the bus was killed, most instantly.
I thought about the school bus massacre a month ago, where a Palestinian suicide bomber murdered 11 people and injured 50--including many schoolchildren--aboard a crowded Israeli commuter bus in Jerusalem. Killed in the terror attack were an 8-year-old, four teenagers and six adults." Reuters reports that "witnesses said they heard children who had been on their way to school screaming 'Mamma, Mamma' from the wreckage." Hamas confessed to the atrocity.
Ehud Olmert said, "Every time I come to such a site, I can't escape the thought that a living person entered the bus, and he saw the young kid of 6, 7 years old sitting, and he blows him apart. This is something that you have to see to understand how terrible it is."
The murderer's father, Azmi Abu Hilail, praised his sons actions butchering Israeli school children and said he would want his other children to become homicide bombers and murder Israeli civilians.
Joel
joel
14.03.2003 09:35
"Soon the world will finally realize and accept that there's only one side of this war with genocidal intentions, and it's the Palestinians."
For that remark you show yourself to be a contemptable fool and a marked man[sic].
jackslucid
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jackslucid
Joel returns *groan*
14.03.2003 11:37
easy everyone, don't even attempt to criticise the Israeli authorities, that makes you an anti-semite if you do!
its only one step away from being in the BNP, criticising Israel.
daniel gurney
lot of words, not much wisdom
14.03.2003 13:06
so- being invaded by the jews, having their land stolen, their farms detroyed, their olive groves chopped down, their houses bulldozered, their towns and villags surrounded by tanks, their economy destroyed by roadblocks that delay the movement of all goods by days on end, having their water supplies cut off, being arrested, tortured, and executed without fair trials, being shot at by tanks, helicopter gunships snipers, and Spike missile, etc.. thats all a fair a reasonable "retaliation" to the suicide bombs that a tiny minority of people detonate.
fuckwit.
ralph
People.. think!
14.03.2003 16:06
frank
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16.03.2003 02:07
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