Ulla Roder Confirms Leuchars Tornado "Out of Action"
TRIDENT PLOUGHSHARES | 12.03.2003 22:09 | Anti-militarism | Repression
Today Trident Ploughshares activist Ulla Roder confirmed that the Tornado jet which she damaged yesterday at Leuchars airbase is unlikely to fly again.
Ulla (48), from Odense in Denmark, but currently living in Scotland, described how she went into a hangar at the Fife airbase and discovered the plane completely unguarded. She said: "I took my hammer to the nose-cone, the cockpit, the fuselage, the wings, the tailplane and other parts of the plane which it was safe to damage. I don't see it flying again. I then sat down and waited for the security people to arrive. When the police came everything was calm and relaxed." She is in good spirits and pleased that this particular aircraft will not be dropping bombs on innocent people in Iraq.
This morning Ulla appeared at private hearing at Cupar Sheriff Court and was remanded to Cornton Vale Prison in Stirling on petition until another hearing takes place next Thursday. Currently the charge against her is one of criminal damage. Until investigations are complete the cost of the damage will not be known but may run to over £1 million.
A Trident Ploughshares spokesperson said: "Ulla's action gives a huge lift to the anti-war movement and will inspire other peaceful and nonviolent acts to put a spoke in the wheel of the Blair war machine."
Ulla is well known as one of the Trident Three who were acquitted by a Scottish court after damaging the Trident research barge Maytime in 1999. She has served several prison terms for anti-Trident actions.
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This morning Ulla appeared at private hearing at Cupar Sheriff Court and was remanded to Cornton Vale Prison in Stirling on petition until another hearing takes place next Thursday. Currently the charge against her is one of criminal damage. Until investigations are complete the cost of the damage will not be known but may run to over £1 million.
A Trident Ploughshares spokesperson said: "Ulla's action gives a huge lift to the anti-war movement and will inspire other peaceful and nonviolent acts to put a spoke in the wheel of the Blair war machine."
Ulla is well known as one of the Trident Three who were acquitted by a Scottish court after damaging the Trident research barge Maytime in 1999. She has served several prison terms for anti-Trident actions.
Contacts: David Mackenzie 0870 458 3117 (07876593016)
Jane Tallents 08454588367
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Well done!
12.03.2003 22:18
Hopefully the first of many Ploughshares actions to stop this war....from people much braver than I, I must admit.
Matt
Matt S
I will not remain in silence...
12.03.2003 22:55
Reminds me of the song "With my Hammer" by Seize the Day...
no-war
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Oh yes well done
13.03.2003 13:03
Yet another utterly pointless act of vandalism from a total idiot. Let's hope after she gets out of jail for this crime she is deported back to her own country.
bobthecob
the ''tornado'' is the the MRCA
13.03.2003 15:35
in reply to 'bobthecob'
Leuchars Tornado F.3 damaged
13.03.2003 19:01
FODACDEN
MRCA?
13.03.2003 19:05
You're confusing this model of the Tornado with the GR1 and GR4, a totally different version of the airframe.
Tonka
protest hobbyist
13.03.2003 20:19
to tell and a lot of backslaps ahead of her at the next day out. Ego massage,nothing more.
brian
Quid pro quo
13.03.2003 20:38
Charles
soloutions
14.03.2003 08:23
mark
fighter or bomber, same thing really
14.03.2003 15:12
bye bye
Tornado F3
15.03.2003 19:24
That said its an easy mistake to make and certainly a very brave action and a symbolic one. perhaps a better target would have been the Tonrnado GR4s at Marham and Lossiemouth. Details are on the RAF web site, which is easy to find.
To FOCACDEN who said he wanted to see protesters shot, you are a twat. if you support the war so strongly join the army and go fight it, and we'll wait for you to not come back.
Love Jay
Jason Juliet
useful !
15.03.2003 20:57
The fact that so many people are getting all het up about this shows that the symbolic value outshines the actual material one...
keep at it!
Mockturtle
What the planes do is irrelevant
16.03.2003 01:56
What this woman did is an act of bravery no soldier could ever muster in his pea brained mind, sheeplike follow the leader mind. They only act within "authority's" approval, this woman acted against it. Her valiant efforts against the evil minions that wish to murder innocent civilians (you know US. We the People, Citizens of the United States and other nations with our tax dollars that they stole from us and misappropriated to make themselves even richer) should be rewarded.
These idiot morons, these house slaves, who bend over like servient dogs and lick the asses of their masters who are traitors to their countrymen and women in their support of this war and criticism of the brave citizens like this woman should meet the same fate as the nazis.
An American
Heroic Women
16.03.2003 02:16
Proud Father
doesn't help anti-war movement
16.03.2003 06:41
agnostic
Ineffectual
16.03.2003 06:43
agnostic
BRAVA
16.03.2003 09:11
CHRIS FROM ATHENS,GR
Technical Quibbles
16.03.2003 09:34
Geoff Farrell
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more news !
16.03.2003 13:33
Thirty B52 Support Vehicles Disabled at RAF Fairford
Last night at RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire two Trident Ploughshares activists disabled no less than thirty vehicles which provide essential support to the US B52 bombers stationed there.
Freelance writer Margaret Jones (53), from Bristol, and Quaker activist Paul Milling (58), from Birmingham, planned to stick labels onto all the vehicles to warn they had been tampered with. They carried with them bags of sugar to contaminate the fuel, grinding paste and treacle to add to the oil systems, spikes to puncture the tyres, and crowbars & hammers to damage the vehicles. They reasoned the bombers would be very closely guarded but guessed the “Achilles Heel” might be the fleet of specialist support vehicles which are used to service, refuel, and load bombs onto the aircraft. The bombers have been recently moved to the Gloucestershire base and in the event of war will be used to “carpet-bomb” Iraq. Last night a group of the aircraft took off from RAF Fairford on an exercise and were refuelled in the air over Northumberland.
In a phone call from Stroud Police Station early this morning Margaret Jones said: “We managed to carry out our planned action very successfully. We evaded the police patrols, cut through the perimeter fence, and got into the garages which were unguarded. We managed to disable some thirty vehicles. With our politicians out of democratic control it is up to ordinary citizens to stop the war machine. I could not bear the thought of these bombers taking off from our country, flying thousands of miles to Iraq, and dropping their cargoes of death on ordinary people. We felt we personally had to do what we could to stop them.”
The spectacular disarmament action comes just three days after Trident Ploughshares activist Ulla Roder inflicted severe damage, estimated in millions of pounds, to a Tornado jet at RAF Leuchars in Fife.
mayler
well done. thats one plane that wont bombing
17.03.2003 01:16
at least we have one less plane that
will be bombing, murdering, and killing
iraqi woman and children.
snail
Thank you for your sacrifice!
17.03.2003 04:17
Many people in the US feel helpless while our government engages in a ruthless and immoral attack on another country. I feel unbearable sorrow and anger. I don't know how I can continue. But knowing that there are people with such strong convictions, who are willing to sacrifice so much of themselves to change the world around gives me a little more hope.
Let us all make sure and support this brave person. Write letters and tell your friends!
Jeff
okay...
17.03.2003 05:41
Love jay
Jason Juliet
Thoughtful Action!
17.03.2003 12:09
Good for Ulla for wreaking the killing plane!
Ploughshares is an inspiring group, they have accomplished many signifigant and sucessful direct actions such as this against various killing organisations (the military)
These airplanes are phenominally expensive and the damage is very likely to run in the hundreds of thousands of pounds if not millions.
The purpose of direct action is of course to do something directly against or for a problem. It is not about symbolism primarily though of course that is a factor which you can't escape.
The song with my hammer by seize the day is more than just a little bit similar to this incident. The song details a peaceful direct action by a group of several women against a similar fighter plane destined to bomb East Timorese people under Indonesian Occupation. Of course selling arms to Indonesia illegally occupying East Timor is something that your government should not have been doing anyway but of course the law is different from the law in this type of situation where profit and empire are concerned. There was previous to the destruction of the plane of course years of other various actions of the same issue, letters, speeches, marches, fundraising, blockades etc etc. The reason for destructing property direct action should be obvious, it is a step taken after other more legal and less desperate actions have been exhausted.
The seize the day song details how these women destroyed very peacefully this killing machine. They had to call the police on themselves after they were done because of course the super high tech always alert security that our military provides hadn't actually noticed them. [conspiracy theorists say that it was unbelivable that the USA let down its guard on september 11th, they fail to see the reality of how stupid the military mind is - the best solution for the military to deal with someone is to kill them - they really are that inept!]
And after fighting a long court battle after being arrested these women actually won and charges were dropped. Unusually they were able to argue [usually a court won't listen to such arguements] that the killing jet was defying international law and UN resolutions banning military support for the illegal occupation of East Timor. They argued they were as citizens committing a lesser crime [damage to property, tresspassing] to prevent a greater crime [perpetuating mass killing and war crime in East Timor] They were right and surprisingly the judge agreed.
This case is extremely similar given the breif summary I have read. I think even the Ploughshares group may even be connected to the other group. As well the usual reactionary apologists with their excuses made them that the planes were not really evil military jets [they said they were trainers not possible to use against innocent civillians - yes, that is why they bought those military gets with guns and missiles, to train and educate!] or that this was some kind of angry badly planned and violent action [denying the extensive year planning and actual documentation of the events] Of course the facts speack otherwise but there are facts and then there are facts. Of course nowadays the facts of requiring UN justification under international law (a legal system set up to serve the needs of postwar USA and UK especially) to go to war are irrelevant to our 'leaders' and war is the only answer allowed.
War is insane. Ulla and the hundreds and thousands of people standing up against war are brave and heroic.
Solidarity from Vancouver BC, Unceded Coast Salish Territory!
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Well done!
17.03.2003 13:41
Harq al-Ada
The New Terrorists
18.03.2003 21:26
GriffinWolf
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why war despite motivations is good for Iraq
18.03.2003 21:47
In peace when possible In arms when necessary!
Jeremy
Bomber or Not..!!!
19.03.2003 09:26
ORange
the funny thing
19.03.2003 10:38
now the bit about the sugar in the gas tanks... thats an expensive fix, but I'm willing to bet they get replaced pretty quickly. Its not like Either government is lacking for funds to support the war.
so all the vandals are doing is delaying the inevitable.
justathought
Vandals
19.03.2003 12:32
Meanwhile:
A possible defence for aggravated trespass at Fairford (etc.)under international law by Matt Sellwood, New College, Oxford. The introduction states - "The most common charge for breaking into a military base is that of aggravated trespass. Under this charge, the police have to prove that you were impeding other persons 'going about their lawful activity'. It is clear that, under international law, the preparations for what will be a war of aggression do NOT constitute lawful activity."
Mark
Congratulations!
19.03.2003 13:40
Paul Drew
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Legal stuff
19.03.2003 21:43
Good protest.
Whatever
Nicely done. Only 100s more planes to go!
19.03.2003 23:20
Colt
Please support the Iraqi people
20.03.2003 01:34
I still count myself as Iraqi, as I did not leave Iraq of my own free will, and would one day love to return and open a general practice surgery, which is my profession. I would like my children to be able to play in the Tigris as I did with my sisters when I was a boy.
Now, on with the discussion about this wrecker-of-aeroplanes. Although I respect her for acting according to her beliefs I can only say that she is helping the man who murdered my uncle's family, namely Saddam. This war is not about killing innocent women and children as these groups will not be deliberately targetted, although several thousand will die at the most by being used as human shields by Saddam. Compare this though to the at least 25 thousand of my fellow Iraqis who are tortured to death each year and you will see that it is worth it to go to war to free my people from the terror of the current Iraqi regime headed by the despicable sadist Saddam. My noble people have a chance of freedom and welcome the efforts of the Americans and British to free them. For the first time in two generations my people will be free from torture and murder. Please listen to the Iraqi people before deciding what is good for them. My people want this war to happen. They want to be free. They are not interested in the so-called "peace activists" using this war as cover for their anti-capitalist and anti-American agendas.
If you care about the Iraqi people, like you claim to, then please support this war and if you want to do some good then go to post war Iraq and help them rebuild the country, instead of sitting here trying to stop something which in reality is truly good, which is the liberation of my people. Maybe I'll see you in post-war Iraq?
Iraqi exile living in the UK
To iraqi exile
20.03.2003 02:58
(supported by the CIA btw)
and thousands of people died in the hands of torturers.
But we gave our blood for our democracy.
Many people died in protests and in prisons,
but we liberated ourselves without foreign "help".
If your people can't do the same
then they simply don't deserve their freedom.
They won't have struggled for it
and they won't appreciate it.
They'll probably have a new dictator in a few years,
when Mr. Bush will have his oil assured.
In the meantime, your country will be flattened
and many women and babies killed
and everybody else will have to pay for rebuilding it.
Why?
Cause the oil companies' directors were fucking idiots
and invested on a country as unstable as Iraq.
So, see you in postwar Iraq?
Don't think so.
My people earned the right to their peace.
We just support those that make their own stand.
Like that brave woman.
Ulla, let her name be remembered.
Alex
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From Iraqi Exile to Alex
20.03.2003 22:06
You state that if a people cannot throw of the rule of their regime then they do not deserve freedom. It is impossible for my people the Iraqis to overthrow Saddam without foreign help. His security apparatus is too strong. The Iraqi people welcome outside help in deposing Saddam, so it is not YOUR choice whether there is foreign intervention: it is the choice of the Iraqi people. And the Iraqi people choose that the Americans help them.
You think that the Iraqi people have not struggled for their freedom? I tell you that they have struggled every day for the last 20 years. They deserve their freedom.
Your comments are stupid and uneducated and I wonder if you are genetically stupid or if you were maybe just dropped on your head as a baby. Either way, you have the pity of every thinking man and woman who has read this. And like we say in Persia, "A fart be on your beard".
Iraqi Exile
To iraqi exile
20.03.2003 22:57
I don't give a shit what you think about me.
But what I say is true, and truth hurts.
I don't doubt their suffering,
only their will and determination for freedom.
You see, freedom cannot be given,
it can only be gained.
I won't continue this discussion here,
it's not the place for it.
You can reach me through my email if you want.
Alex
Concern over violence
21.03.2003 04:07
I tell victims is to breathe deeply and think of a peacfulscene andtry to avoid anger as it detrimental to health.
Well done Ulla. Whether this plane has killed or will kill is irrelevant of course. I don't want my tax Pounds Sterling to have to pay for it.
Art Blinkin
Admirable action
21.03.2003 11:23
Jens
Jens Nielsen
Back to Alex
21.03.2003 13:42
Freedom CAN be given, as it is being done now by the brave soldiers who are prepared to lay down their lives so that my people can live free from torture, rape and arbitrary murder.
You will oppose everything that America does, as you are not a "peace activist", you are simply an "America-hater". If you were a peace activist then you would be helping oppressed people all over the world to gain peace. Instead you oppose peace for oppressed people. You are simply one of those who choose to hate. Why don't you learn to love instead?
Iraqi in Exile (but not for long)
very good job!
21.03.2003 14:01
kartoffel/potatoe
Resist!
21.03.2003 16:18
Our responsibility to the international community of human beings is more important than our duty to be loyal to any particular state.
Sometimes, as in the case of illegal wars and oppression, we have a moral duty to do what we can to resist.
The USA shows very real and alarming signs of sliding into fascism. Many Americans are resisting this and need the world's support. The best way of showing this support is to resist the war effort by all means possible. And take advantage of opportunities to display solidarity with the growing numbers of US citizens who are realising that the real threat is the startlingly rapid undermining of democratic institutions in their country.
Matthew
i feel no good will come of this
21.03.2003 23:30
I think I'm rather happy Ulla's done what she's done.
The Iraq exile who said "His security apparatus is too strong. The Iraqi people welcome outside help in deposing Saddam, so it is not YOUR choice whether there is foreign intervention: it is the choice of the Iraqi people. And the Iraqi people choose that the Americans help them.
You think that the Iraqi people have not struggled for their freedom? I tell you that they have struggled every day for the last 20 years. They deserve their freedom." put me in mind of Abdul Farak, Sandhurst trained no less and part of the group that's meant to take up the reigns of power in postwar Iraq, assuming the US gets its widescreen happy ending. In a recent interview he stated he was grateful for current US help in deposing Saddam, but seemed deeply suspicious of America, not trusting their motives and pointing out they'd even warned Saddam's security apparatus of attempts to overthrow him thru the 80s. Maybe not all Sandhurst graduates are as barking, or as evil, as we think...
And I really agree with Matthew's comment that the USA shows very real and alarming signs of sliding into fascism. Resistance does need to be supported; the scary faith in the rightness of US actions seen on prowar sites like 1itt1e green f00tball5 is reminiscent of nothing less than the way Serbs and Croats were manipulated by their nationalist movements' propaganda to believe they were wholly good and everyone else was monstrous. There was resistance in those countries; surely it's not too late for the US?
Delphine
How to gain peace (to alex/iraqi)
22.03.2003 15:37
Whenever you wish to fight against an enemy, do not call for the assistance of someone stronger than you. For your new ally is bound to take for himself whatever you wish to gain.
History is full of such examples. Do you know of any single nation that had been 'liberated' through a foreign power and then that foreign power let it 'free'?
Even if the foreign power would let them free in thend, such a thing can never ever work. Why? Because The people must liberate themselves, for only then they will be strong enough to actually *keep* their freedom. If the US invades Iraq, destroys Saddam, selects someone for a leader and leaves, the country is fucked. There will be too many groups that could govern, none of which having sufficient power against any other..... Hey that just reminded me of Afghanistan...
Christos
To Alex and Christos
22.03.2003 20:28
You are wasting your time here. I've spoken to many people like you and most of them never learn. Your best bet is to just go back to school and hope for the best.
Christos,
You don't seem to believe the account I gave of my relatives having to go through what they went through. Maybe you are a Holocaust denier too......
My people are thankful to anyone who will come and save them from Saddam. We don't care if it is the Americans, British, Turkish, Indians, as long as Saddam goes. The Americans are the best bet as they are the least likely to install a dictator in his wake. They certainly don't want another Saddam.
You ask for examples of countries which have been left alone by their liberators? I give you France, Germany and much of Europe. These countries are not ruled by American generals are they?
Will the Iraqis waste their chance of freedom? Maybe, but at least we will have the chance to make a go of it without Saddam. It's the chance we want, that's all.
You can keep on coming up with reasons why you don't want the Americans in Iraq and all of them will be false. What I want to hear is the real reason why you hate the prospect of us being liberated by America. I have already mentioned that the Iraqi people want them there so there is no justification for you to oppose their wishes. Come on, what's your real reason?
Iraqi in Exile
project for mad, mad, mad world order
23.03.2003 06:43
Mr Angry would be frightening if he wasn’t so bonkers:
“Where were you during Saddam's reign of terror?”
Um....not supporting him with material and with advance warning of attempts to depose him...???
”Until I see the protesters crying for their previous inactions, I will treat them just as they should be treated: like useless, unwashed, dissatisfied, angry kids who need a serious ass-whopping to put their spoiled little bratty ideals into a more realistic line.”
I’m guessing Mr Angry works in childcare. :)
--
On a more serious note,
“My people are thankful to anyone who will come and save them from Saddam.”
This we get; and I point again to Abdul Farak, wise if callous in saying “we don’t mind who helps us get rid of Saddam, but we certainly don’t think the US are doing it for any particularly good reasons.” The only thing that scared me about this interview was that it had been crafted by the US PR-type people as the best way to sell the planned postwar government to Europe and the saner people of the world.
“The Americans are the best bet as they are the least likely to install a dictator in his wake”
Yup, they just want to give you the freedom to buy big, buy American. Not the freedom to disagree with you, mind – if you do that any time in the next 60 years they’ll call you ingrates, seeing as they liberated you – and then go round you and any other inconvenient international process of justice to get what they want anyway...
“They certainly don't want another Saddam. “
Nope, but they probably wouldn’t show much displeasure if there was an Iraqi Bush.
Project for a New American Century, right? Charming.
Delphine
Liberators
24.03.2003 14:13
1. Probable falsehoods: I do not have a reason to believe what you say. On the other had, I do not have a reason *not* to believe what you say. As a matter of fact, I will just accept the fact that there were and still are atrocities committed, as happens in all dictatorships. For me, their precise nature is currently irrelevant.
2. While I can agree that the US had played an important role in the 2nd world war, you can hardly argue that Europe was 'liberated by the US'. You seem to be forgetting that the Nazi army was crushed by the Russians and was thus depleted, and that their airforce was similarly weakend by their fights with the British. Constant bombarment by the was detrimental to their infastructure and caused difficulties in maintaining the war engine. Furthermore, the resistance in occupied European countries had become organised and managed to deliver significant blows to the occupying army. Do not forget that at the end of the war, the US army was able to operate from bases in southern italy - which was a direct result of an italian revolt.
And it also depends on what you mean by 'ruling over'. If you mean economic dominance and political dependence, this was exactly had had hapenned after the 2nd world war. Western europe entered the US sphere of influence and Easter Europe entered the USSR. Remember the Cold War?
So, what have we here? We have a bunch of weak nations, with actual resistance forces against the Germans, which needed the help of the US and Russia to crush the enemy. In the end, half of Europe 'allied' with the US and half with Russia. Do not delude yourself that it was any kind of alliance worth its salt. It was a split of territory between the two emerging powers. All of it is Realpolitik. Remember the Cold War? It started immediately afterwards.
Christos Dimitrakakis
To iraqi exile
25.03.2003 14:44
I really hope we'll all get to know a little bit more about our "enemies", and thus about ourselves, through these paths of communication (as I did the last few days since my first post here) and give ourselves a chance to stop this madness before WW3 knocks on all our doors.
As Albert Einstein said not so long ago "I do not know with what kinds of weapons the Third World War will be led, but the Fourth World War will be fought with sticks and stones."
Alex
Iraqi In Exile
10.08.2003 22:24
I don't doubt that Saddams regime was as evil as you said however the point needs to be made that if it wasn't for the USA, UK and other nations supporting Saddam as a "friend against Iran" then he would never have got into that position. The chemical and biological weapons that were the "reason" for this war would all have "made in America" or "product of the USA" on the side (makes you proud don't it?)
Maybe it is you that needs a history lesson with better teachers, another good example are the Taliban and Bin Laden both of them were "freedom fighters" in the 1980's when the were killing Russians, however once the kill the wrong people ie: our people they become "terrorists".
The fact that Saddam has gone from Iraq is undeniably good but do not be fooled, if he had towed the American line and stayed useful then they would not have come and "liberated you". The fact is that any dictator, no matter how cruel his regime, is tolerated as long as they are useful. Once they stop being useful then the govenment and the media suddenly remember how evil they really are.
Also remember that it wasn't Saddam that put sanction on your country, which have probably killed more than Saddam and his hench men managed in how many years?
So IRAQI in Exile say "Viva USA" as loud as you can, but those of us who remember history know your shouting "Viva Saddam" each time.
Anyway back to Ulla, what she did may not have completly sucessful, it is more than likly that the jet she attacked is ready to use again however the symbolism can not be ignored.
As far as it not being helpful to the anti-war movement again that is debatable, the protest on Feb 15th had between 1 million and 2 million people (depends who you belive the cops or the organisers) and yet Power did not listen.
So the question is, if peaceful protests don't work does violence directed against the machine of war not the people (Kill the jets not the pilots) work? I'm not sure, but if when people feel that they have no voice, that if they ask nicly they will be ignored anyway then they will act violently.
As for all those people who say that Ullas action are terrorism you might have a point but isn't war just terrorism with a bigger budget?
When an army kills thousands of innocent people and calls it "collateral damge" is that not terrorism? The only thing these people have done is to be born into the "wrong" nation.
Maybe if there were more "terrorists" who attacked the machines of war then there would be less terrorists who feel it is better to attack people.
We have been put into the situation time and time agian where we have to support the murder of one people to stop the murder of the same people: Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq.
Yet most of these situations have in some part been caused by our leaders. If anyone needs to go back to school with better teachers it is the likes of Bush and Blair, if they really are trying to do the best thing for everyone which is the front that they attempt to put across (that i personaly don't beleive) then they should learn that supporting a bastard now will only mean fighting a bastard later.
One final thought: How many regimes are we supporting now so that they would agree with a war? Today we are creating how many new Saddams?
Marcos
Editor's Note:
24.08.2003 12:22
Tom
Should be locked up
15.04.2004 18:17
War is not a pretty thing. We must however protect ourselves against those countries who believe that the west is a decadent society...would Ulla like to go to Iraq and damage some of their tools of war, I am sure that they are using them to greater effect that the UK and the USA.
One thing for sure, if she is caught over there doing this sort of damage, she will get more than a charge of criminal damage.
Sure, nobody wnats to have these weapons of war and destruction, but come on, this is a world where more than one person feels that they have a right to cause heartache and mayhem.
Our current servicemen deserve the best that our government can provide, and no-one, no-one has the right to damage property.
She is no more or less a terrorist herself and should be deported....
UK Ex serviceman