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Striking Firemen Continue to Protect Public

wefes | 14.11.2002 15:42

These guys are fantastic; fighting for a decent level of pay, and they're still able to act in an emergency.

Deptford, south London, about 2pm. I went to a nearby fire station just to see what was happening and to offer any help and support I could. When I got there, the picket lines were deserted, although all the usual paraphernailia was in place (posters, heaters, tea, &c).
This puzzled me at first but then it became a bit clearer; I cant say for sure what had happened for there was nobody available to talk to, except to report that all the picketing firemen were attending some kind of accident which had occurred just along the road.
Do not believe the lies and propaganda; it is not true that firemen are making greedy demands and putting the public at risk. They are dedicated professionals who deserve a 100% pay rise in my opinion.

wefes

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that's nice but..

14.11.2002 16:52

doesn't doing your job kind of defeat the object of a strike? The strike isn't much of a political tool if it has no real effect.

It's a really difficult situation for emergency workers because they know that people will die if they strike. And the government knows this too and can exploit it to make the strikes ineffective.

I think the firefighters have to use the argument that the government is the employer so is responsible for both the conditions of the workers and ensuring that the job gets done. If the workers do not feel that their conditions are satisfactory, then it is not their responsibility to continue doing their jobs.

If it gets to the point that their job is intolerable then they quit. And then who is to blame when the job doesn't get done? The strike is a moderate version of quitting.

I just hope this strike isn't a repeat of the last firefighters' strike - which was long and failed.

jp


support the firefighters

15.11.2002 10:12

visit their website and send em a message of support:

union dinosaur
- Homepage: http://www.fbu.org.uk/pay2002/pay2002main.html


its up to workers to decide their own tactic

15.11.2002 10:17

if they want to give local emergency cover, or if they want to go all out, is entirely up to them. now the purported Labour regime is talking about actively breaking a future strike, they may wish to reconsider; whatever they decide, i wish them luck

gythuk


40 per cent is too big a pay demand!

15.11.2002 23:13

A forty per cent pay increase is way to big a pay demand there is no way that the firefighters will win or should win on this one. The 30,000 pounds a year which they are demanding and refusing to negotiate on is totally unreasonable, which any government left or right should refuse to agree to! It is one thing to demand a living wage, it is another to demand a rediculus sum and hold the country to ransom in an attempt to get it!

Even an extreme left wing government would refuse the firefighters on this. Remember the Kronstadt rebellion when a similar crisis faced the Bolshiviks in Russia!

Harlequin


o no, not KRONSTADT again

16.11.2002 14:04

just like basil fawlty, trying hard not to mention the war in front of german tourists, perhaps you know that whenever you find a sizable anarchist community,(like this website) never to mention the kronstadt without good reason!
in truth, the basis of the firemens demands is that the PARLIAMENT gave themselves precisely a payrise of similar magnitude; anyway, even if they never get it, the firemen are following a good anarchist principle (so i understand, for im more of a marxist myself) of "Be realistic: demand the impossible". whats wrong with that ?

gythuk


Sparty twat

16.11.2002 16:19

"anyway, even if they never get it, the firemen are following a good anarchist principle (so i understand, for im more of a marxist myself) of "Be realistic: demand the impossible". whats wrong with that ? "
What's wrong, you arrogant little sparty twat, is that innocent people will die and be maimed as a consequence...

Reality Check


Abuse

16.11.2002 19:29

No need to abuse ppl

gtr


Psychological war against the firefighters

17.11.2002 17:11


17/11/02


Ref UK Fire-fighters Dispute
Is the government waging a psychological war against the fire-fighters?Is it not time they stopped insulting good people and practiced what they preached.I presume that Mr Mandelson and Mr Prescott will be taking a wage cut to £6.50 per hour as it appears to be so reasonable.Is the New Labour Project little more than a party from which public sector workers are excluded.In which grandiose schemes are launched minute by minute and dross feed to the masses.Perhaps they could go and rest on their dented shields till they recover.Too much chatter is said to affect the brain.
Patrick

Patrick