Saddam bombed OK City! Really. Honest. Can we invade now?
Yeah Right! | 25.10.2002 05:13
Call me a sceptic if you like, but this is going a step too far? Saddam blamed for...... answers on a post card to "I Blame Saddam for all the worlds' problems!" C/O Chimp W Bush, The Shite House, OK Corral (whoops, Washington)!
Iraqis linked to Oklahoma atrocity
By James Langton in New York, for the Evening Standard
The FBI is under pressure from the highest political levels in Washington to investigate suspected links between Iraq and the Oklahoma bombing.
Senior aides to US Attorney-General John Ashcroft have been given compelling evidence that former Iraqi soldiers were directly involved in the 1995 bombing that killed 185 people.
The methodically assembled dossier from Jayna Davis, a former investigative TV reporter, could destroy the official version that white supremacists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were solely responsible for what, at the time, was the worst act of terrorism on American soil.
Instead, there are serious concerns that a group of Arab men with links to Iraqi intelligence, Palestinian extremists and possibly al Qaeda, used McVeigh and Nichols as front men to blow up the Alfred P Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
Davis, who was one of the first reporters on the scene after the blast, has spent seven years gathering evidence of a wider conspiracy. But it is only as America prepares to wage war on Iraq and Saddam Hussein that her conclusions are being taken seriously at the highest level. Finally, she says, the authorities are examining the idea "that the Oklahoma bombing might not simply be the work of two angry white men".
After hearing her evidence, several senior members of Congress have called for a new probe.
What triggered Davis's investigation was a report immediately after the Oklahoma explosion of Middle-Eastern looking men fleeing in a brown Chevrolet truck only minutes earlier. The FBI launched an international hunt for the men but later cancelled the search.
Within days McVeigh and Nichols were arrested, and the case seemed to be one of home-grown terrorists, motivated by a hatred for authority. But the case has always had loose ends. In particular, several witnesses in Oklahoma City that April morning saw a third conspirator with McVeigh. The elusive dark-haired suspect became known as "John Doe 2".
Terry Nichols, now serving life for conspiracy in the bombing and involuntary manslaughter, was the original "John Doe 1" but, with his arrest, the FBI claimed that the case had been wrapped up. They eventually concluded that "John Doe 2" was Nichols all along.
Davis thought otherwise. Early on, she found that a brown Chevrolet truck almost identical to that once hunted by the FBI had been seen parked outside the offices of a local property management company several days before the bombing.
The owner was a Palestinian with a criminal record and suspected ties to the Palestine Liberation Organisation. Later she found that the man had hired a number of former Iraqi soldiers.
He had recruited them to carry out maintenance on his rental properties, but several were later discovered to be missing from work on the day of the bombing. Eyewitnesses have told Davis that they saw several of them celebrating later that day.
But what increasingly drew her attention was another Iraqi living in Oklahoma City, a restaurant worker called Hussain Hashem Al Hussaini, whose photograph was almost a perfect match to the official sketch of "John Doe 2".
Al Hussaini has a tattoo on his upper left arm, indicating he was once a member of Saddam's elite Republican Guard.
Since then, Davis has gathered hundreds of court records and the sworn testimony of two dozen witnesses. Several claimed to have seen a man fitting Al Hussaini's description drinking with McVeigh in a motel bar four days before the bombing.
Others positively identified former Iraqi soldiers in the company of McVeigh and Nichols. Two swore that they had seen Al Hussaini only a block from the Murrah building in the hours before the bombing. With the case against McVeigh and Nichols seemingly watertight, the FBI has until now consistently refused to reopen it. McVeigh went to his death in the execution chamber two years ago, insisting he alone was responsible.
Davis thinks he may have done so out of loyalty to his family, not wishing to go down in history as a traitor to his country.
But she has evidence that up to 12,000 Iraqis were allowed into America after the Gulf war. Some of these, she suspects, are using their status as refugees for cover. "They are here," she said. "And they are highly trained and motivated."
The renewed interest in Washington is clearly linked to America's case against Saddam as broker of world terror.
And there is more. Al Hussaini, who entered the US from a Saudi refugee camp, worked after the Oklahoma bomb as a cook at Boston's Logan Airport - from where the two hijacked aircraft that hit the World Trade Center took off.
There is another confirmed incident that suggests something more sinister. Two of the 11 September conspirators held a crucial meeting at a motel in Oklahoma City in August 2001. The motel's owner has since identified them as ringleader Mohammed Atta and Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, who has known links with shoebomber Richard Reid.
The motel is unremarkable - except for one thing. It is where a number of Davis's witnesses are sure they saw McVeigh drinking and perhaps plotting with his Iraqi friends.
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©2002 Associated New Media
By James Langton in New York, for the Evening Standard
The FBI is under pressure from the highest political levels in Washington to investigate suspected links between Iraq and the Oklahoma bombing.
Senior aides to US Attorney-General John Ashcroft have been given compelling evidence that former Iraqi soldiers were directly involved in the 1995 bombing that killed 185 people.
The methodically assembled dossier from Jayna Davis, a former investigative TV reporter, could destroy the official version that white supremacists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were solely responsible for what, at the time, was the worst act of terrorism on American soil.
Instead, there are serious concerns that a group of Arab men with links to Iraqi intelligence, Palestinian extremists and possibly al Qaeda, used McVeigh and Nichols as front men to blow up the Alfred P Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
Davis, who was one of the first reporters on the scene after the blast, has spent seven years gathering evidence of a wider conspiracy. But it is only as America prepares to wage war on Iraq and Saddam Hussein that her conclusions are being taken seriously at the highest level. Finally, she says, the authorities are examining the idea "that the Oklahoma bombing might not simply be the work of two angry white men".
After hearing her evidence, several senior members of Congress have called for a new probe.
What triggered Davis's investigation was a report immediately after the Oklahoma explosion of Middle-Eastern looking men fleeing in a brown Chevrolet truck only minutes earlier. The FBI launched an international hunt for the men but later cancelled the search.
Within days McVeigh and Nichols were arrested, and the case seemed to be one of home-grown terrorists, motivated by a hatred for authority. But the case has always had loose ends. In particular, several witnesses in Oklahoma City that April morning saw a third conspirator with McVeigh. The elusive dark-haired suspect became known as "John Doe 2".
Terry Nichols, now serving life for conspiracy in the bombing and involuntary manslaughter, was the original "John Doe 1" but, with his arrest, the FBI claimed that the case had been wrapped up. They eventually concluded that "John Doe 2" was Nichols all along.
Davis thought otherwise. Early on, she found that a brown Chevrolet truck almost identical to that once hunted by the FBI had been seen parked outside the offices of a local property management company several days before the bombing.
The owner was a Palestinian with a criminal record and suspected ties to the Palestine Liberation Organisation. Later she found that the man had hired a number of former Iraqi soldiers.
He had recruited them to carry out maintenance on his rental properties, but several were later discovered to be missing from work on the day of the bombing. Eyewitnesses have told Davis that they saw several of them celebrating later that day.
But what increasingly drew her attention was another Iraqi living in Oklahoma City, a restaurant worker called Hussain Hashem Al Hussaini, whose photograph was almost a perfect match to the official sketch of "John Doe 2".
Al Hussaini has a tattoo on his upper left arm, indicating he was once a member of Saddam's elite Republican Guard.
Since then, Davis has gathered hundreds of court records and the sworn testimony of two dozen witnesses. Several claimed to have seen a man fitting Al Hussaini's description drinking with McVeigh in a motel bar four days before the bombing.
Others positively identified former Iraqi soldiers in the company of McVeigh and Nichols. Two swore that they had seen Al Hussaini only a block from the Murrah building in the hours before the bombing. With the case against McVeigh and Nichols seemingly watertight, the FBI has until now consistently refused to reopen it. McVeigh went to his death in the execution chamber two years ago, insisting he alone was responsible.
Davis thinks he may have done so out of loyalty to his family, not wishing to go down in history as a traitor to his country.
But she has evidence that up to 12,000 Iraqis were allowed into America after the Gulf war. Some of these, she suspects, are using their status as refugees for cover. "They are here," she said. "And they are highly trained and motivated."
The renewed interest in Washington is clearly linked to America's case against Saddam as broker of world terror.
And there is more. Al Hussaini, who entered the US from a Saudi refugee camp, worked after the Oklahoma bomb as a cook at Boston's Logan Airport - from where the two hijacked aircraft that hit the World Trade Center took off.
There is another confirmed incident that suggests something more sinister. Two of the 11 September conspirators held a crucial meeting at a motel in Oklahoma City in August 2001. The motel's owner has since identified them as ringleader Mohammed Atta and Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, who has known links with shoebomber Richard Reid.
The motel is unremarkable - except for one thing. It is where a number of Davis's witnesses are sure they saw McVeigh drinking and perhaps plotting with his Iraqi friends.
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Find this story at http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/1678779?version=1
©2002 Associated New Media
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The order didn't come from Saddam though!
25.10.2002 07:12
Bombing Iraq would cause tremendous loss of life in injury among the ordinary Iraqi people who have already suffered enormously already under 12 years of sanctions and from the results of the last Gulf War! If war goes ahead against Iraq for whatever reason then it will be ordinary Iraqi people who will suffer the most!
Also the the working class of the world have no interest in fighting wars for their rulers at all. The only war that the working class should fight is the class war to overthrow the bosses and to bring the workers to power! That is what we paint on walls everywhere on October the 31st the national day of action against the coming war "No War But The Class War".
Harlequin
Homepage: http://www.socialistparty.org.uk
A little misleading perhaps
25.10.2002 08:32
The OK bomb blast has never been accuratly reported in the mainstream media. No suprise there!
What was widely reported immediatly after the blast as a 500lb fertilizer bomb in a car, quickly esculated over the next few days to a 4000lb fertilizer bomb that moved vehicles to a large van/medium truck.
From immediate reports of whole swathes of administrative staff, ATF squads, intelligence experts and high ranking state officials being wiped out at a stroke, to the point, days later, where the death toll included low level maintanece staff, general office staff and THEIR CHILDREN, BUT NOT ONE SINGLE MEMBER OF THE ATF OR SENIOR MANAGEMENT!
In fact, there was a brief attempt to elicit sympathy for the ATF on the anniversary of their greatest triumph[sic] (dozens of dead children at waco) by revealing to the waiting press the story of a brave ATF operative who suffered the blast trapped in a lift - until that is, the lift maintance company totally undermined the story with the revalation that it was all bullshit!
The blast itself was captured on several siesmographs in the area, and revealed that the blast was actually two blasts seconds apart, follwed by a smaller peak when the rubble hit the ground.
The blast destroyed totally 20 to 30 of the main concrete support beams, which were 30-75 feet from the truck, pulverising many to powder. The initial pressure wave that can be expected to be produced from this type of ammonium nitrate device, will not exceed 1/2 million pounds psi (per square inch), falling off only a few yards later to 375psi at the nearest columns and 25-38psi at the furthest.
In order to pulverize concrete to powder a blast pressure of a least 300 000 psi is needed (given an average yeild strength of 3500psi).
Fortunatly for the people of OK, a FEMA bomb squad was on hand a few blocks away before the blast, and so busy were they, they never got round to telling the worlds press that they had found residue of PDNT at the site and not the high concentrations of nitric acid asssociated with fertilzer bombs.
PDNT is associated with hi-tech explosives.
Now, the republican gaurd, an iraq special force - never saw action in gulf1 - founded, supplied and trained by the amerikans. Clinton arranged for nearly 5000 of them to move to the us, especially OK, after that television war.
I could go, and try and bore you with even more facts and attempt to document the twists and turns of this event to the max, and maybe I will at some point, but for now see if you can spot what is wrong with the official picture and the handy cosequences it produces.
"Treason and the new world order" - Gurudas. Cassandra press 1996 good read and many references to follow up.
jackslucid
e-mail: jackslucid@hotmail.com
Micro-Nukes
25.10.2002 11:19
Hmmm