My first visit to this site and having read your 'Isreali made C4 explosive' article it might be my last.

I'm all for an anti-corporate/goverment/global-media-monopoly stance, and there is nothing wrong with an emotive rant to make a valid point, but it was the most hysterical and ridiculous thing I've ever read.

I'd think Chris Morris was at work if it wasn't for the humour bypass.

This is meant to be a serious site, right?

'Harry Powell' ... define 'hystetrical and ridiculous' ...
Whilst it is still incumbant on 'mike' to reveal his sources for the alligations that he makes, from my point of view it is a small leap of logic and realisation to get to understanding the very real advantages that israel and amerika gained politically from this outrage.
Yes it is possible scientifically to pinpoint the manufacturing origin of C4, however from that point on the trail becomes confused to say the least.
It is also possible that groups who planned and coordinated this may have done so without the knowledge that they were perhaps working for somebody elses agenda ( a classic 'spooks' tactic and the very essence of 'false flag' operations - shown to have been deployed on several occassions by both the usa and israel).
Mostly though, it makes no difference to the position and desired outcome for me, namely that .. playing with idealogical fire and 'god told me to do it' matches ... this is the real danger to us, that we get sucked into this world of good up, bad down false dialouge.
War is wrong.
Making war for money or belief is wrong.
To be enslaved by ideas is a slow death ... liberate your hearts and minds ... the future is made by how we feel today.
Love is the most powerful force in the universe.

Mike the purpose of this wire is to report the news not to bore us all with half baked conspiracy theorys. For your information C4 is produced mostly in the states. It is found everywhere in the world particularly in the former soviet block.
I'm no fan of Mossad or Israel for that matter and it pisses me off when important issues get clouded by unbelievably bad journalism like yours. Crawl back under your stone you racist strak of piss.
Looking out of my window I notice that its just started raining, no doubt the jews are to blame for this as well...

The use of the words 'conspiracy theory' are now NO longer used to refer to a theory that suggests a group conspiring (in itself an unremarkable act), but instead is used disingenuously to attack the bearer of infomation and smear the infomation therein. It is the debating equivalent of a full stop.
Having said that, the info about the bombing in bali is somewhat sketchy, which unfortunatly has not prevented wild speculation along the lines of ... muslims in the area, amerika says they done it ... of course the utility of this reasoning lies with its lack of insight into the cause and effect of international conflict and strife.
Again, strictly speaking, it is neither racist nor anti-semetic to suggest that because mossad had the means the motivation and the methods to act and implicate its enemy, it might prove useful to persue inquiries along this line.
Once again I ask those that are making the case for mossad involvement to produce their sources, and not just to rely on inference (ie the fact that mossad has been shown in courts of law around the world, by journalists and journals of a wide variety of sympathies and by its own records to have engaged in 'false flag' operations.
And 'by' might you include a forwarding address next time as your 'bat'[!?!] failed to materialise ...
No justice no peace

it's true that a lot of the actions that my country is doing
are wrong\imorral and I even can call it "crimes against humanity" but calling the israel a zionazi is wrong.
The crimes of israel are similer to the crimes the UK and France did in the third world before more then 70 years, but a lot different then the crimes of the Germans in the second world war. The state of Israel controls the plastinen people but it isn't methodically murder them.
By the way your theory is not true because israel export all kind of weapons all over the world, and some times the weapons is getting to the wrong hands.

In pyramidally organised society, all security agencies are the same thing at the top of the pile - so CIA = MI6 = Mossad = Pakistan's ISI = Iraq's intelligence agency whose name I can't track down at the moment. The Bali massacre is without doubt a murderous fraud carried out by new world order agents to further the agenda, with a specific address to the Australian people and all other doubters
Wake up for fucks sake people.
Voxfux chews the biscuit:

Bali Disco Bombing - Another US "Inside Hit."
Introducing the "Link" and "Pivot" bombs
or
Looks like another US Military/Intelligence Black Op
by voxfux


It’s not hard to find pieces of the puzzle that just don’t fit. That’s why the dark force spent years obliterating American’s critical capability. So that the pieces that just don’t fit - don’t even get noticed.

Here's a piece that doesn't fit.

They expect us to believe that the same Islamic Terrorists who supposedly masterminded the Sept. 11th attacks, (Arguably the most significant MILITARY strikes in the history of empires, shaking the very roots of the globe’s preeminent empire.) would blunder and bomb the disco containing Australians when a disco full of juicy Americans was just a few doors down the road?

One only has to spend an afternoon on the strip to find out which places are popular with the Americans. Even Islamic terrorists can ask any Kuta vagrant which club has the Americans in it.

And absolutely , positively, if Islamic terrorists were behind this attack, they would have gone straight to the discos frequented by Americans only several doors down the street, and bombed them - Absolutely - Positvely.

So voxfux gives this attack, this months award for being, “The Most Suspicious Attack - Looking Most Like Just Another Clandestine US military/Intelligence Attack of the Month” award.


Since American journalist’s don’t have the courage or grey matter to make such obvious extrapolations, the biggest clues go completely unnoticed, unreported and uninvestigated. So forget about mainstream media. (Most US journalists have never even heard of the Northwoods memo - so the depth and magnitude of the ignorance is profound.)

News must now be almost entirely extrapolated by independent and trusted sources. A good source such as WWW.VOXNYC.COM or WWW.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM will have an 80% accuracy rate of extrapolation from the actual 1 or 2 percent of viable data gleaned from the semeiosphere of total bullshit. The other 20% of the 80% of correct extrapolation can be error. But that is still better than the near 95% of corporate news, which is as everyone now knows, pure fabrication, designed only to further an elite few’s industrialist goals, and take away every thing you own.

So if you believe the major media’s version of events - congratulations - you’re a big part of the “Problem.”

So, here’s what really happened:

Bali, the lush paradise which remained secluded for decades attracting a few backpackers and surfers has over the years succumbed to an influx of the worst of the spring break and package tourist crowd. Kuta beach, now a swarming tourist shithole, of this still stunning island paradise, is a steady lineup of souvenir hawkers, drug dealers and a gauntlet of McDonalds, pimps, Pizza Huts, American tourists, Wendys, Australian tourists, and KFC’s (I once counted 4 KFCs within eyeshot. Note: Colonel Sanders’ eyes have been altered so that he appears at both times Caucasian to Caucasian customers and Asian to Asian customers - check it out - the power of capitalism is remarkable.)

The average tourist necks are getting thicker and the buttocks bigger with each passing year.
(The two worst things that ever happened to the beautiful Hindu people and island of Bali - The Western tourists and the Muslim conquerors.)

Since many of Indonesia’s dregs (and quite a few from the west) pass through Kuta’s streets crowded with dope dealers, crooked cops, nightclubs, bars, Germans, whores, fast food joints, girly-boys, locals, etc. a terrorist would go little noticed. He wouldn’t even have to bother to cloak his Islamism, after all it is the Muslims from Java who operate the Kuta district, not the peaceful Hindu Balinesians. He would at least have the sympathies if not full scale support of some hard line religious group there. The point is that he could move freely enough to know the basic thing that everyone knows while visiting and partying in Kuta - who hangs out where - and he would have known that the Americans hung out in a different club. He would have had ample time to scope out and familiarize himself with the strip and know where the “Great Satans,” were, and bomb them first. If you believe the stories that it was an Islamic terrorist who bombed the disco it would be entirely possible that they could even have been locals or working with locals there, in which case, once again, they would certainly have known where the Americans were.

The bottom line is, everyone knew where the Americans were. So why would they bomb the Australians, who, compared with the Americans are buddy buddy with the Islamic world? If it was Islamic Terrorists there would certainly be strong case to be made that any such production by an Al Queda sleeper cell there, would not go unnoticed by the real locals Muslims - There would have to be someone there on the ground - a local Muslim - who assisted in the operation - Again making it highly unlikely that they would overlook the much juicer American target just a few doors down (at the Peanuts club, for example, frequented by Americans).

For a terrorist, the time and effort it takes to find out where the Americans hang out as opposed to where the Aussies hang out is NOTHING compared to the time it takes to construct and deploy a car bomb. Islamic Terrorists who have the skills to pull off 911 type operations - would not have overlooked this detail.

Therefore reinforcing the extrapolation that Al Queda didn’t do it because they would NOT have overlooked the fact that there are easier and better targets of Americans in Kuta Beach than the Sari Nightclub. But the corporate media will not inform you of this fact.

Once again - Any Islamic Terrorists would bomb the Americans first before bombing the Aussies.

Right? I mean think about it people. Take some time and think about it. (If you have a shred of critical capability still intact, it all unfolds.)
Why would they bomb Aussies when the "Great Satan" is just a few doors down?

Answer: Maybe a covert US group did it.

Introducing the “Spin,” “Link,” and “Pivot,” Bombs.

Another bomb went off simultaneously with the disco bomb in a different part of the island. The American consular office was bombed simultaneously (where no one was hurt.). It is the exact same M.O. as the Twin Towers and Pentagon job. (The Pentagon hit serving roughly the same function as the Consular office in Bali.)

The Bomb at the consular office is called the “Link Bomb.” I will coin it as one word containing two capital letters - Because you are going to see many more LinkBombs in the near future. Designed to form multi-various linkages: It Bonds Australians with Americans in their time of sorrow, as both, “Victims under attack.” Also, it links the perpetrator to Islamic Terrorists and Al Queda. (As usual, with ZERO evidence linking the attacks to Al Queda, the State Department trumpeted the connection and the media dutifully relayed the lie directly to our brains.)

It links rage and anger of generations of Australian people who saw images of bloodied fellow Australians and scrolling lists of body counts on their TV to the “Evil of Islamic Terrorism.”. It is a Link-Bomb for certain. And it’s a SpinBomb too. It forces Prime minister Megawati’s hand to play Bushes geostrategic terror game. It forces them away from the vital tourist industry to play ball under the crushing thumb of oppressive debt and IMF restructuring for what remaining industries they do still have. It’s a SpinBomb in that it may reverse Australians resistance to Bushes aggressive global rampage. And it spins the entire country and people of Indonesia into a spiraling trap of an ever increasing military rule, which had after decades started to release it's grip on that country.


It’s role is exactly as is the role of flight 77 (alleged to have slammed into the Pentagon.) Only the Pentagon plane is more a “Pivot Bomb” and only secondarily a spin or link bomb. It’s pivot/spin function is superb. Designed to fool onlookers to believe it is America which is under attack, and not America who is on the attack. It is a decoy designed to preempt any question which are bound to pop up in certain awake and aware analyst’s minds, that being of course, “Could the US be behind the attacks?” “Why of course not, see, the Pentagon got hit...

...AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PENTAGON WOULD NEVER MOUNT A FRAUDULENT ATTACK AGAINST THEMSELVES AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE OTHERS DID, AS A PRETEXT FOR AGGRESSION... THEY WOULD NEVER DO THAT!” search: operation northwoods

Unfortunately there’s only about 150 years of facts that demonstrate that this technique is standard operating procedure for US military planners. Attack yourself and people and blame your enemy. And trick your own people into conquering your enemies for you. The oldest trick in the book.

Come on people, the deployment and explosion of the Link&Spin bombs tells the WHOLE story. This bomb attack was designed to consolidate the thrust against Islam in the second most populous Islamic country, Indonesia. (130 million people)

Think about it. It just doesn’t make any sense that Al Queda would knowingly bomb young Australians - taking on a new enemy, after all Australia is the last remaining major English speaking nation who DOES NOT SUPPORT Bushes New World Order of insider oil wars and arms deals? Why then would the Al Queda or any Islamic Terrorist try to inflame Australians? They’ve got enough on their hands with the Americans. It’s not logical that they would be anxious to take on new enemies.

Bush’ll try to tell you it’s, “Because they hate freedom.” But that line doesn’t work anymore. I’d say it’s more because they’re mad. Because we’ve been fucking them over for a long time.. The worlds population is under attack by the shadow government which is now running the entire US government. No, this car bombing was likely to be the handiwork of the same covert US forces who are raging forward with their plans of global conquest - They are not Islamic.

This bombing was by the same forces who did the Twin Towers. They are Anglos, for sure, who are masterminding these attacks. They exist at the pinnacles of secret societies and secret councils. These real controllers are never seen, there is always intermediaries between them and those who follow their orders. And even those like Presidents of the United States follow their orders directly yet are unaware of who they are. But you can bet they have billions of dollars more in their holdings than a lowly little American President. And you can bet that they use whole countries as mere instruments of their wishes.

Whatever ultimate name has been ascribed to them, be it, Illuminati, Knights of Malta, Freemasonry, Jesuits or any number of others, they exist as a real group of real men who really gather and plot such titanic power shifts. I suspect that In their last gasp at vitality, these dying Anglo geezers, are clutching vaingloriously to Maltese Crosses, getting their rocks off at our expense before thier long good bye - On this, the last of their industrio/religious crusades - this time against Islamic control of precious oil. When these geezers die (not soon enough) I suspect the whole petrochemical paradigm will die with them. Their's is a world of superstition and ritual that even a child can see is silly. Their gowns, festooned with maltese croses, crests and heraldry of all sorts are romantic, futile, fatal gestures of mock vitality.

But for now, they are on the attack. If we resist. It will be their last. If we submit, they will continue until the earth consumes their bones. But know that we are under attack.


The disco bombing was surely perpetrated by the same US based covert intelligence group who masterminded the September 11th attacks. It is completely intertwined at the highest levels with US intelligence and the US military. It is international in scope and has a huge base of support, supply and operations currently in the states of Texas and Florida. Former President George Bush Sr. is heavily linked to this group. Himself being an instrument for the religious order who commands the operations of this covert group. That religious order is itself subservient to an even higher group of multi billionaire industrialists and banking dynasties. At this level these billionaires command governments and religions to bend at their will. Controlling religious orders, intelligence organizations and countries such as the Catholic church, The CIA, The United States of America, Freemasonry, The M 16, Great Britain, Knights Templar, The Council on Foreign Relations, Israel, Pakistani Intelligence, Knights of Malta, KGB, Jesuits, Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, FBI, Southern Baptists and on, with a force proven to be more forceful than god - money.

Know Your Enemy.
Resist.
Fight back.
voxfux

 http://www.voxnyc.com/archives/00000033.htm

Spot on dh/voxflux, spot on.
I'm off to look through your site.

Cheers jackslucid - nice to see someone remain so lucid - and about the mininuke


Well it did occur to me that there might be some guys with geiger
counters and radiation suits down there, still the scalar weaponry
theory still holds a lot of appeal. I believe the wtc towers were
almost certainly demolished by this technology, firstly from watching
them crumble neatly to dust from the top downwards, and secondly from
the bits of body tissue that were all that remained of hundreds of
people. It don't make sense unless you think of some massive force
stripping people into little bits. Apart from those caught in the
vicinity of impact who will be mostly seared, those who were caught
in the crumbling of the building may well be torn linb from limb, and
what you'd expect to find was lots of broken bodies and bits of arms,
legs, heads, crushed bones, burned sections, lumps of this and that -
but no you got millions of tiny fragments taken off for storage in
the hope of later identification. Same thing in Bali - a relatively
few whole, or part persons ready for identification and lots and lots
of little bits This is mostly in my view where the modus operandi
seems to tie both events.
by the way it ought to be possible to connect antiwar events like the 31st October to the firefighter's desire for a halfway decent wage. These are people who risk life while the wish of the trillionaires is for continuing profit and power over the whole earth and a reduced populace.
Let's support moves to remove the Blair government brick by brick. Who could the Bilderbergers choose next? Surely not that whispering ghost IDS and the faceless hollowed-eyed practitioners surrounding him or even that joker from 'I've got news for you' nice though he might be.
Approaching is a means for removing all these bastards from power if we know how the game unfolds and are willing to spread news of what they are up to from 911, to palestine to bali to the way they materially and spiritually fuck you over