Do you know, hackers hacked into Arafats account. They found out he was worth 3 to 5 billion dollars. Since 1975, the Islamic countries, Europe and the Asian countries were giving Arafat hundreds of millions of dollars. Arafat was putting billions of this money in his own account. Arafat was using different names in these accounts, so no one knows he's worth all this money. What I found amazing. Arafat is worth 3 to 5 billion and he hasn't given a cent of that money to help his people. Its the old story with Arab dictators. There rich, while they keep there people poor. Check out this story.
 http://www.jr.co.il/articles/politics/plo2.txt

ok, i'm gonna break it down:

1.) the original wrong was the eviction of palestinians from their own land. don't bring any religious bullshit - i don't buy it.

2.) if a jewish homeland was possible without the eviction of palestinians, so be it. it was probably possible, but religious folk demanded that it be the religious homeland.

3.) everything that has resulted since has been rooted in this original wrong, this original 'sin' if you will. lots of israelis act as though the 67 war was unprovoked, as though israel was a benign force in the middle east. beyond simply expelling palestinians, they also participated in the western invasion during the Suez crisis. they can't claim to have been neutral from the beginning.

In the past the PLO advocated a One State Solution, Jews and Arabs would live together in equality in one state.

What's so wrong with that?

However, because this proved unacceptable to Israeli Jews, and because they did not have the means to achieve the political goal of one, secular democratic state for all peoples, in 1988 the PLO committed itself to a 2 state solution, Israel and Palestine side by side.

I personally disagree with that solution.

perhaps the people who control the USA, are deliberately letting Israel off the leash. World opinion is slowly going against Israel. At some stage of the game , Bush discovers that the Mossad agent that has been living under his desk since he took over has been dipping into his coke stash,
Bush throws a wobbler calls out the boys and extends the war against terrorism to Israel and the jews, which his mates from the KKK had been planning all along , by this time everyone is so pissed off with Israel that after a big corporate media campaign the greens propose that all the jews are burnt in special eco incenerators, the energy produced is classified "renewable" which makes a tidy sum for the local councils involved and there is no excuse for what is going down in the middle east.
It might come as a shock to the high and mighty jews, Israel might just be another pawn in "The Game."
If the tables were turned you will be looking to people like the ones supporting the Palestinians to support you.

So who is to blame for the problems of the Mideast? Leaders of Palestinian terrorist groups who send their suicide bombers to blow up women and children, or the leaders of Israel who are merely doing their best to ensure that their people can live without the constant threat of Palestinian terrorism?

The real villains are the Arab terrorists. These terrorists who blow up civilians and children, who want to live in peace.

The real villain is Arafat, who has the power to stop the violence by putting away the leaders of the Hamas, the Islamic Jihad and of every faction that calls for the destruction of Israel. He does not do it ofcourse, because he is no different, because he himself orders terrorist attacks and he himself wants to see Israel destroyed. It is villains like Arafat that the UN is supporting. It is Arafat that world leaders embrace, shaking the hand that is still dripping with the blood of innocent women and children.

The world should single out Palestinian terrorist groups, for atrocities that they committed and continue to commit. These terrorists openly flaunt their actions.
They are proud of blowing up teenagers and shoppers and yet very few people outside Israel are calling for their indictment and punishment.
These terrorists are the ones who should be indicted, for they are the real criminals whose guilt is beyond reasonable doubt.

This is what Arafat wants.

Arafat's speech in Sweden in 1996.
Arafat’s speech in front of 40 Arab diplomats in the Grand Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden, on January 30, 1996. Was called "The Impending Collapse of Israel".

"We will take over everything including all of Jerusalem," he declared repeatedly. Arafat's plan has two main components aimed to cause the Jews to abandon Israel. "Within five years we will have six to seven million Arabs living on the West Bank and in Jerusalem. Arafat explained that this will be the beginning of a pressure campaign resulting within a few years in Israel's ultimate destruction. "You understand that we plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian State. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion; Jews will not want to live among us Arabs!"

On the same day in 1993 on which Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn, he spoke the following words on Jordan TV:
"Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."

Faisal Hussein a week before he died did an interview with the Egyptian publication Al-Arabi', June 24, 2001.
Husseini said in the interview that the Intifada "could have been much better, broader, and more significant had we made it clearer to ourselves that the Oslo agreement, or any other agreement, is just a temporary procedure, or just a step towards something bigger.

"We distinguish the strategic, long-term goals from the political-phased goals, which we are compelled to temporarily accept due to international pressure," Husseini said.

"[Palestine], according to the higher strategy, [is] 'from the river to the sea,'" he said referring to a common description of Israel. 'Palestine in its entirety is an Arab land, the land of the Arab nation."

It was Arafat and his colleagues who brought terrorism to world attention, setting in motion the new notion of hijacking and blowing up airplanes in the 1970's. He even did the original four jet explosion trick in the Jordanian Desert in September 1970. Bin Laden was just following the lead of Yasser Terrorfat

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2273384.stm
Sunday, 22 September, 2002, 07:05 GMT 08:05 UK
Israel piles pressure on Arafat

Israeli machinery has set to work at the compound
The Israeli army has pulled down a building next to
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's office in his Ramallah
compound after a night of protests in which four
Palestinians were reported killed.

Mr Arafat has been under
siege there for three days,
and the latest action
leaves his entire
headquarters - except for
his office - in ruins.

Mr Arafat is refusing to
give in to the Israeli
Government's demands
that he surrender 50
suspected militants Israel
says are hiding in his
offices.

Overnight the army
flooded Mr Arafat's
quarters with searchlights
and demanded on
loudspeakers for him to
come out. Israeli television said the idea was to make
life so unbearable for the Palestinian leader, that he
would choose exile.

Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres has contacted
international leaders to ask them to convince Mr Arafat
to send the militants out.

But he said there was no intention to harm Mr Arafat,
Israeli radio reported.

Four dead

Palestinians came on to the streets in defiance of a
curfew in several West Bank and Gaza towns overnight
because of rumours that the army was planning to blow
up his office.

Four were reported shot dead by Israeli troops.

Palestinian medical sources said two protesters,
including a journalist, were killed in Ramallah itself.

The other fatalities reportedly occurred in Nablus and
Tulkarem.

Late on Saturday loudspeaker announcements told
people in the neighbourhood around Mr Arafat's
compound to leave the area immediately.

Some people said they
have been told to turn off
their lights, open their
windows and to expect a
"big bang".

However, so far there have
been no explosions.

Saeb Erekat, a close ally of
Mr Arafat, told the BBC that
the lives of those left in
the compound were "in real
danger".

"[Israeli Prime Minister
Ariel] Sharon will bring the
situation to the point of no
return," he said.

Israel's Deputy Defence
Minister Weizman Shiri said that Mr Arafat could leave
the country, but would not be allowed to return.

"If he decides he wants to get out we'll give him a lift,"
Mr Shiri told army radio on Sunday.

"We'll give him a one-way ticket in a dignified way."

Arafat 'not a target'

A senior Israeli commander told Reuters news agency
that the army's mission was to remove everyone from
the building.

"The wanted men among them will be arrested," he
said. "Anyone who is not wanted for questioning will be
released."


"I hope God will grant me
the honour of martyrdom.
No one will be handed over
to Israel," said Mr Arafat,
according to Ahmed Tibi,
an Arab member of
Israel's parliament.

The latest army action
began after suicide
bombings in Um al-Fahm
and Tel Aviv earlier in the
week.

A defiant Mr Arafat issued
a statement on Saturday
calling for an end to
attacks.

But he added: "We are
ready for peace but not for
capitulation, and we will not
give up Jerusalem or a
grain of our soil which are
guaranteed to us by
international law."

Food and water are also
said to be in short supply
for an estimated 200
people reported to be
sheltering on an upper
floor.

International reaction

France condemned the
siege as "unacceptable"
and called for it to be
halted immediately.

Denmark, the current president of the European Union,
said Israel's actions would neither curb terror nor
improve security for its civilians.

The Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak, has called on
the United States to intervene immediately; and Jordan
said Israel's actions threatened the stability of the
region.

The US administration urged Israel not to jeopardise
future reforms of Mr Arafat's Palestinian Authority by its
actions.

Unfortunately, you (like most Zionists) throw all Palstinian organisations into one!

I am pretty certain that it was the PFLP who popularised the tactic of plane hijacking for a brief period in the early '70s, and that the hijacking you allude to was led by Leila Khaled (famous freedom fighter from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine), - but I may be wrong on that one!

By the way, the roots of the middle east conflict is in the Zionist colonial movement in Palestine.

Antonius, Israel existed 1500 years before Muhammad was born. Besides Saudi Arabia and Egypt, every Country in the Mideast in the 7th centure was never Arab or Muslim. Muhammad from Saudi Arabia invaded the Mideast and North African countries and took the land from the native people's. Everyone that was conquered was forced to be Islamic, anyone that didn't convert had there heads cut off like Daniel Pearl.

Here we go again, long winded pieces claiming that israelis are without guilt, Palestinains have cleverly hoodwinked us stupid gentiles (because deep down we all hate jews right?) into believing that they are not the evil baby killing land grabbers that they and other arabs have always been!!!
Any unbiased reading of history from the past 50 years or so WILL NOT support this tragic nonsense.
israelis, claiming to represent all jews, brutally evict as many non jews from Palestine. Except that a large proportion of religious jews say that this DOES NOT fulfil the tennants of their religion. Never mind say the new israelis, we want a secular state. Except that citizinship will be granted on the basis of religion, and here are our religious types that say israel does fulfil the prophecy - oh and by the way you don't have to do military service.
Thanks they say, perhaps your right after all!!!
Going further back in history FIND me the religous types who haven't butchered each other.
3-5 billion dollars?
Do me a favour, unsourced, unseen, secret files???
Heard it all before.
No justice no peace.

The Palestinians are not refugees. THEY are now living with their OWN people, exactly as the 800,000 Jews who were kicked out of the surrounding Arab countries, are living now with their OWN people in Israel. The only difference is, that the Arab brothers refuse to intergrate the Palestinians in there countries, by not allowing them equal rights, where as the Jews expelled from all the Arab countries, were fully absorbed by their brothers in Israel. Instead, The Arabs use the Palestinians for Western Media Propaganda. Exactly what Jordan admitted in 1949. JORDAN DAILY NEWSPAPER "FALASTIN". 19th February 1949. The Arab states which had encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes, in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help these refugees.

"The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the action of the Arab states attacking Israel. The Arab states agreed upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the solution of the problem they created." Emile Ghouri, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee, Daily Telegraph 6 Sept 1948.

Khaled al-`Azm, who served as Prime Minister of Syria in 1948 and 1949, wrote in his memoirs (published in Beirut, 1973), that among the reasons for the Arab failure in 1948 was"the call by the Arab Governments to the inhabitants of Palestine to evacuate it and to leave for the bordering Arab countries. Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave...We were the ones who pleaded with them to leave (Part 1, pp. 386-387

"The Secretary General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, assured the Arab peoples that it would be a simple matter, to throw the Jews into the Mediterranean.

Brotherly advice was given to the Palestinians to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow the Jews down." Habib Issa, in the New York daily Al Hada, 8 June 1951.

"This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boasting of an un-realistic Arab press and the irresponsible utterances of some Arab leaders that it could only be a matter of weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab states. Edward Atiyah, then secretary of the Arab League in London, The Arabs (1955) p 183

"The Arab exodus was incouraged by many Arab leaders, such as Haj Amin El-husseini, the exiled pro-Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem, and by the Arab Higher commitee for Palestine. They viewed the first waves of Arab setbacks as merely transitory. Let the Palestine Arabs flee into neigboring countries. It would serve to arouse the Arab world to greater effort, and when the arab invasion struck, the Palestinians could return to their homes and be compensated with the property of Jews driven into the sea." Kenneth Bilby,'New star in the Near East' pp 30-31

According to a research report by the Arab-sponsored Institute for Palestine Studies in Beirut, the majority of the Arab refugees in 1948 were not expelled and "68%" left without seeing an Israeli soldier.

"The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians. But instead they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and leave their homeland." Abu Mazen, PLO Executive Committee, Falastin-al-Thawra, Mar 1976.

A PBS documentary from 1998 has confirmed that Arab eyewitnesses The Arabs deliberately fabricated allegations that atrocities were committed in the battle of Deir
Yassin, during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. The documentary Israel and the Arabs: the 50-Year Conflict aired May 1998. Deir Yassin resident Abu Mahmoud adds: "We said, There was no rape He [Khalidi] said, We have to say this so the Arab armies will destroy the Jews.

The Arab leaders had promised the Palestinians, that the Arab armies would
crush the Zionist very quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long exile." George Hakim, Greek catholic bishop of the Galilee, in the Beirut newspaper "Sada al Janub" 16 Aug 1948.

Harry C. Stebbens, who was in an official position in the British Mandatory Government in Palestine in 1947-48, wrote in the London Evening Standard (Friday, 10 January, 1969): "Long before the end of the British mandate, between January and April, 48, practically all my Arab Palestinian staff of some 200 men and women and all of the 1800 labor force had left Haifa, in spite of every possible effort to assure them of their safety if they stayed. "They all left for one or more of the following reasons:

Arab Leaders promised a blood bath as soon as the British mandate ended, in which the street of all the cities would run with blood. The promised invasion by the foreign Arab armies (which started on May 14, 1948, with the Arab Legion massacre of some 200 Jewish civilian at Kfar Etzion) was preceded by extensive broadcasts from Cairo, Damascus, Amman, and Beirut to the effect that any Arabs who stayed would be hanged as collaborators with the Jews. The massacre of Kfar Etzion, the massacre of the hospital convoy killed 48 Jewish doctors and nurses, the continued shelling and blasting of Jewish settlement for more than 20 years, has not caused one single Israeli to move away. They sit tight and if necessary in their shelters while across the river, where the shooting comes from, the towns and villages are deserted, last year's crops still rot on the trees and the refugees move still further away from any trouble."