Green Anarchist website update
Steve Booth | 02.08.2002 18:40
Over 30 more articles from the very first 10 issues of Green Anarchist magzine have now been put on this website. Included are articles about the Molesworth Peace Camp eviction and the Battle of the Beanfield. 'Where We Stand' by the first editors, particularly the piece by Alan Albon, shows that the original Green Anarchist magazine was not Primitivist.
Steve Booth
e-mail:
grandlaf@lineone.net
Homepage:
http://www.greenanarchist.org.uk/Lst2.htm
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GREEN ANARCHIST LITE
04.08.2002 08:45
http://www.greenanarchist.org/
MrDonk
The dog returns to its vomit
04.08.2002 20:59
'Anti globalisation - almost as bad as globalisation itself.'
The John Conner newspaper is bonkrupt. Lost the plot...
Lewis
Green Anarchy/ism = shit
05.08.2002 16:54
S. Home
Original Green Anarchist Was Not Primitivist
07.08.2002 19:57
The 'S. Home' posting is an understandable reaction, as a piece of anti Green Anarchist malignancy, but offers nothing positive to advance matters.
On the other hand, it is clear that 'Mr Donk' has not read 'Green Anarchist' issues 63 and 64. His comments flow from a pure knee-jerk hostility and are based on Paul Rogers' misrepresentations.
Mr Donk's argument is essentially an appeal to the herd instinct. Through this gate into the sheepfold. Safety in the herd. Baaah Baaah Baaah!
'Mr Donk' (hardly a pseudonym to inspire confidence - yet another way in which the Primitivists are tripping over themselves) does not deal with the point made in my posting, that the original Green Anarchist was not Primitivist.
Three points need to be made here:
(1) The original Green Anarchist had a William Morris / Peter Kropotkin type vision about appropriate technology being used to free people for creative activities.
(2) The original Green Anarchist had a vision of sustainable agriculture being used to meet peoples' real needs - it did not share the Zerzanian view that agriculture ought to be completely rejected.
(3) The original Green Anarchist could include technology, housing, towns and such things as transport and communications within its vision.
Don't be conned by 'Conner'. Paul Rogers' propaganda, in his talk about 'Original And Best' and in Rogers' previous propaganda against Saxon Wood, claims that GA always was Primitivist. This is not true. It is a matter of historical record that the original GA was not Primitivist. This can be seen from the Alan Albon (the first editor of GA) editorial position piece 'Where We Stand', from issue 2:
'Economic units have to be small enough to enable all to decide with others the relatively simple questions of securing the necessities of life. In a situation where technical knowledge can free the whole population. Instead of overwork, insecurity and poverty for many and wealth and power for the few.
With the market place mentality taken out of agriculture, transport, art, sport and the many activities that people partake in, self-expression can be universal in work and play. We can create workshops where people cease to be mere units of production, towns that are a pleasure to everyone to live in, agriculture that does not create mountains of ecologically expensive food, where it becomes an art once again and not run by accountants and businessmen with their erroneous values.
People will be able to work the land in their diverse ways, and the land itself will become a common resource, not the field for speculators and other state supported parasites that infest society. We can create a transport and communication system that does not clog cities with fumes and waste energy, housing and infrastructures that people want, not what architects, planners and politicians think they ought to have.'
Alan Albon, 'Where We Stand' Green Anarchist issue 2
http://www.greenanarchist.org.uk/Where.htm
I leave you to draw your own conclusions from this. In order for Green Anarchist magazine to move on it is necessary to first cast off this millstone of Primitivism, and secondly to re-examine that early vision held in such passages as the one quoted here....
Stephen Booth
Steve Booth
e-mail: grandlaf@lineone.net
Homepage: http://www.greenanarchist.org.uk/Where.htm
The Original Primitive
08.08.2002 01:00
Who gives a damn whether Alan Albon or Richard Hunt were primitivists? Hunt is neither green nor anarchist lately.
S Home is a troll, and not worthy of any reply.
And if Lewis thinks GA is "bonkrupt", maybe she should read Booth's touchy feely version of GA instead.
MrDonk
Primitivist indifference to facts
08.08.2002 22:21
Here we see the Primitivist indifference to facts. Paul Rogers makes claims that his magazine represents the 'original and best'. Therefore an examination of what the original GA was like is in order.
We find that it is not primitivist. Therefore Rogers' version does not resemble the original Green Anarchist and his claim is false.
Obviously 'Mr Donk' has not read the GA. 'Middle class tree hugging shite' 'touchy feely' 'Fuck the Green Party' etc
These are prejudicial misrepresentations of what the new post-Rogers Green Anarchist magazine is about. They are not about reason, or an objective description of things.
I do not think that 'Mr Donk' can honestly produce quotations to back up his comments, but we shall see eh?
It will be interesting to see how he twists things, if he tries.
'GA Lite' is also a Rogers-ism.
Steve Booth
e-mail: grandlaf@lineone.net
Reply to Booth
09.08.2002 21:02
MrDonk
Thought not
12.08.2002 20:20
Steve Booth
e-mail: grandlaf@lineone.net