i read every day italia indymedia,and i can assure you that in Italy(also in traditional media:tv e newspaper)
NO ONE NOW THIS STORY AND the misteryus mr BRUNO LAVERA.

iN iTALY IS PROGRESS A WAR MADE FROM disubbedienti(ex TUTE BIANCHE)AGAINST THE ENTIRE BLACK BLOC

BE ALERT! aguinst all provocateurs

ciao

fuck'ng cop get out !
minimal sbirro pezzo di merda torna nella tua fogna

do not belive minimal, he's .gov

Checking through Google it looks like the RAI journalist Bruno Luvera' exists and won an award for his documentary about Genoa G8. I don't think there's much to say about minimal, i don't think any italian cop would have the brains to read and write italian, let alone english. I doubt there are infiltrated cops in this site, they're too busy covedring up what they did in Genoa and scare all the people who have documents to present as evidence. You may all know that to this day no one has been tried for the violence in Genoa last year.
Let's all go back to Alimonda Square and say goodbye to Carlo. Let the police know we're not going to forgive or forget. Thank you.

Bruno Lavera is an Italian giournalist working for Rai. The facts, and in particular the infiltrations from Forza Nuova, have already been reported on alternative press (as well on Indy Italiy) during last year.

first my nick is manimal.strange nick x a cop.I never knew cop hearing GERMS(you know them?).
o.k. this luverà still exsist is a rai jornalist and wrote a book on genoa 2001 but repeat you
no one in italy
know his work about Genova.
in Italy i read every day *laRepubblica*and *il corriere della sera* 2 most important italian paper and every day go to italia indymedia and repeat ,i never see about the name Luverà and his name.THIS IS THE FACT *mr police detector*
and in witch tv program mr Luverà told this story?
EVERY PEOPLE IN ITALY KNOW THAT RAI (pubblic tv)
ARE CENSORING ALL MATERIAL ABOUT GENOA
this is a fact* mr police detector*
and is true that in Italy there is a war against all the form of bb made by disubbedienti statement

this is Italian post i wrote about this question

 http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2002/07/63740_comment.php#63753

I thank cltz that in a comment on italia indymedia advise me that someone call me as a cop

DONT'WORRY X THIS
it's just the *REGOLA AUREA* of DISUBBEDIENTI statement
:if someone write on indymedia something against them ,sure he/she is a Cop.
ciao ciao
italia.indymedia is really full of this.

apart from wether or not this guy exists, he obviously does and the story HAS been all over the italian press for a year.

The diaz school has been "squatted" and a lot of people are heading for Genova for the anniversary.
Looks like it will be a bit of a bash hope every one is tooning in ..

check it out, photos of a possible agents provocateur in action at the scene of the Giulani incident at:
 http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/genova/provocateur.htm

Just a couple of comments for international readers about what happened at G8 Genoa: According to a lawyer from the
legal forum who's name I don't have with me at the library
the city of Genoa admits that 9000 cs gas canisters were launced at the public durin the three days. This stuff burns the lungs and skin and my provke ashma like symptoms in people, it is not tear gas. CS gas is internationaly banned by convention for use in war by soldiers but it was used in Genoa on the G8 marchers. The stuff may even cause
genetic dammage.
In the book "non lavate questo sangue" by Concita De Gregorio, published by Editori Laterz(in Italian)Dr. Massimo Costantini, of the Center of Epidemiology of Genoa and the National Institute for the Reasearch on cancer is quoted:"This tear gas have something inside them. An asid, something that swells up the throat and closes it, one cannot breath and spasms start. They have something that makes one vomit. They don't make you cry, this tear gas: it blinds and makes the stomac empty itsself. It is a cloud that berns and smells like sulfer. They throw them from the helicopters, in clusters. Or they shoot them, and you hear the report like that of a gun, but more mutted. Thud. They arrive in barrages:fifteen or twenty at a time, then the asid clowd arrives".

Also, 93 people inside the Diaz school were arresed, and 93 filed chareges of assault. 60 did go straight to the hospital. In the Italian newspapers recently the asistant prosecutor got a confession that the two molotov coctails that were the only clear weapons "found" and upon witch charges were brought, these two molotovs were planted by Police. This is public knoledge. There was and still is no justification for the two hours of beating on those young people sleeping in side the Diaz school. Among the injuries reported a punctured lung from broken ribs and bleeding spleens and broken teeth and limbs. The city of Genoa had given the school to the propestors. They were and are responsable for the safety and well being of these guests of the city and not just the heads of state, in my opinion.

There are several problems: in Italy torure is not a crime, although kidnaping and abduction is.....other problem
Italian police and security forces are not legaly oblicated to carry identifying numbers and names. The european courts
in Strassburg for human rights should be petitioned to look into violation of human rights in Italy.
Peace L

against the lies of ya-basta/white overalls some fliers from an italian social center



Some of our reflections on the days in Genoa .

The heated comments about the events report (above all, obviously coming from the institutional press) the accusations from the heads of the organizations present in Genoa that speak, almost unanimously, of provocateurs in combat with the police (thoroughly filmed and photographed), or, in a minority of cases, of hooligans let loose to agitate, who played games with the police giving them an opportunity to attack the bulk of the peaceful demonstration.


The first observation that one can make is that these accusations have been methodically repeated for 25 years every time a street demonstration escapes the control of its presumed political organizers. To hear that there are always hot heads, comrades that blunder, people that 'fall into provocations' (fascists or police), or, in the most scandalous cases, infiltrators.
This is the only justification of those who try to manage and use the wills of the protest of thousands of people in arguments that touch everyone, in direct and indirect ways.
There are thousands of motives for protesting: a meeting of powers, the most powerful in the West, protected by thousands of men fully armed, the same men that in the first instance, everyday, everywhere, apply the decisions of the powerful.
The G8 is nothing.
Nothing is decided there.
But it is a symbol. And symbolically there were those who wanted to protest against them. In diverse ways and terms.


And at this point it is necessary to understand its terms. To contest democratically (in the accepted meaning of the so called organizers and exponents of 'civil society', this means without offending, without doing damage, without defending oneself) also means to understand--just as those same powers have remarked through their spokespeople--that these powers represent nations in which democracy reigns, that they have been democratically elected, and that they therefore represent all those that accept voting and accept the terms of democratic management, being governed from this and from that ordering politics. It is a system that doesn't leave gray areas: one accepts it or not. In this sense, those who thought of protesting democratically were practically demonstrating only the disappointment of an institutional minority about the decisions of the government that they themselves have legitimized by voting. We understand: even if there were a million people, they would have been democratically considered a minority. The electorate has decided otherwise, they have voted for others, and those elected democratically decide for everyone. Diverse millions of people have elected these powerful. The others continue to try. Scratch scratch maybe one time it'll be your turn to command. What is the use of a demonstration of a minority? To let off steam, to show that we do not agree, to try to put pressure on our governors to make more just decisions... maybe because we must do it. But when we are in the streets, even for the second, the third, the hundredth time, after years of bearing limitations, oppressions, injustices, repression, violence, that are imposed by decisions on high, something else happens. It happens that we remember the anger of when we suffer wrongs, how it is impossible to manage one's own life because in each of its aspects we are limited and repressed by a system that has fabricated predefined platforms from which is impossible to escape. We understand how it may not even be possible to know who is responsible for that which befalls us. Our employers are not responsible--if it wasn't for them we wouldn't eat; it's not those who make us pay taxes (now they take them directly out of the stipends, that way it is less painful); it is not he who fines us, in the end he's just doing his job; it isn't he who teaches us how to behave from the time we're children--we should have common customs--and afterwards if there are those who don't do these things, patience and endurance; it is not he who governs us, in the end they merely act as the expression of the majority of us; it is not he who beats and arrests us--someone has to do it--and then it is not with force that the divisions that keep some 'below' are created....
In this way, when in everyday life we understand that things don't work, no one is ever at fault, no one is responsible, they all have a justification, and it is not possible to do anything, if you don't beg, vote and ask for a few more crumbs (for some more money...). For the great collective questions, there are not responsible ones: pollution, hunger, disease, wars, we no longer find those who are responsible. And we are left there to wring our hands, impotent.
There is she who has come down to the street with these feelings long since rationalized, who has felt them emerge during hours in the street. And so many have vented their anger, have exploded, understanding how, in these demonstrations, we have nothing else to do that doesn't bring you to a mere picnic. So many have destructively expressed their very anger and fury against a system which, indeed, is a black block, a block that doesn't leave space for any other method, much less that of the self-determination of life.
Every imprisoned being, eventually, rebels, no matter how long and comfortable her cage may be.
Then we can also say that the police would have charged people regardless, that they have charged those who did nothing, that they didn't expect anything else, that they like to beat, that the atmosphere was in any case that of intimidation, but the fact is there was no other sensible way to behave when faced with 8 powers that decide for everyone and that surround us with thousands of armed men. And he who has seen the endemic violence of the institutional demonstration, of its blocks, of walls, of divisions, even before direct violence, knows that the responsibility is that of the State and its protectors, independent of provocateurs.
Their very existence is a provocation, a menace.


When we protest against those who govern the world, we cannot use measured means. The system wants someone (or some people) to govern everyone, and the individual can do nothing. And in these days thousands of individuals, not only some anarchists (now that everything interests us except riding the tiger), have expressed and have lived their own anger without mediations. They know--the organizers, the mediators, the institutional politicians--that no one, neither us, nor them, nor anyone in the streets yesterday or in the future, can govern protest, can restrain the fury of those who are constrained every day to live under the aegis of the State, of laws, of justice.
They--the so called pacifists, social democrats, and reformists--cannot do anything but retrace the systems and methods of those that they say they are contesting: hierarchical and specialist organizations, delegation, representation, control, censure, repression. Power against power.
They disappear.
Or they resign themselves to organize trips for bored alternative-antagonistic tourists, even to exotic and far destinations, that don't touch them closely in their daily lives.


Some general and abstract critical notes: the danger of these demonstrations is that even the most determined and sincere subside when it is only on these occasions that one can express oneself, that is, only when there are mass situations, when the satisfaction of agitating is shared by many, and when these actions are disseminated by the media: the dangers therefore are the renunciation of projectuality and self satisfaction. On the contrary, that which is materially extremely dangerous is the spreading of film, video and photographic cameras everywhere, even in our own ranks. The instrument most useful by repression for control is the identification and repression of individuals. It is necessary to eliminate first of all amongst us, this practice, this stupid and useless habit of filming and photographing. Representation, the spectacle of reality cannot do other than deviate our actions.


El Paso, Sunday July 22, 2001



El Paso Ocupato--Torino Italy
ne'centro ne'sociale...ne'squat
 elpaso@ecn.org
distro contacts:  fortpaso@ecn.org, www.ecn.org/elpaso
tel 0039.11.317.41.07

"REVOLT\'S FIREMEN\"

The \"tute bianche\"
(white overalls) are already well known in the european and american
protest movement, being well recognizable with their uniform and
protection pads in the frontlines. They undeniably showed their
reformist and reactionary core to the worldwide movement in several
occasions, but still they fail to get the adequate response we should
give them. That\'s why we consider necessary to spread infos on them,
their tactics and their lies. The tute bianche/ Ya Basta! movement comes
out of the bigger and more sold out social centers of northern Italy,
like Leoncavallo in Milano, Rivolta in Mestre and Pedro in Padova. Just
giving a good look at these places it\'s easy to understand how the t.b.
can\'t be other than reformist: here you find never-ending compromises
with authority, collaboration with political parties, big events
described as diy, well defined hierarchies and leaders. With their
statements and their actions tute bianche play a hard-looking role, and
are desperately trying to have more adepts among those opposing
globalization, but they cannot hide the truth of their relationship with
green and leftist parties ( actually, many Giovani Comunisti, youth
section of the italian party Rifondazione Comunista, are part of t.b.)
and of their own involvement in politics (some of their leaders like
Casarini and Farina took part more than once to elections, even in the
2001 ones, and are those same going on Tv to declare war to police for
the Genoa G8, but in this days they are \'contracting the demo\' with the
italian Foreigner Ministry Ruggiero!). Can we consider politicians on
our same side of the barricades? We think not, even if they wear
balaclavas to look cool and hard, or speak of battles against power to
get our complicity. What, in our opinion, tute bianche are doing is to
reduce the conflict, mediating to get compromise solutions, considering
political parties and istitutions as referring: tute bianche are a
sedative revolt dont\' need. We think we cannot and we have not to give a
hand to the enemy. If tute bianche do it (and they doing it), well, so,
they are our enemies, revolt\'s firemen, which are throwing water on the
fire. They always talk about \"Seattle-style protests\" but we saw them in
action many times in Italy, and the show is always the same. Part one:
they declare war, fill their mouths with big words and say they will
siege and close down any meeting/forum. Part two: they ask for permitted
marches and collaborate with police and political parties taking part in
the protests. Part three: they appear at marches with their pads,
helmets and protections, display in the frontlines, take care that
nobody has the insane idea to do something else (above all to smash
banks\' or multinationals\' windows) and that the march can have place
without any \"problems\". Part four: here is where they try to get
revolutionary credibility... clashes with police! They use to confront
police at the end of the route with plastic shields and no offensive
object, pushing in order to pass the \"red line\". But these clashes are
fake ones! They usually take place when most protesters have gone away,
but tv cameras are still present, and last just a few minutes. Moreover
police don\'t use tearing gas, which is their favourite arm during
clashes or riots. What these coordinated clashes work for is to build
consensus on their façade of hard core protesters, while giving no
hassle to power in practice. Their aim is to catch more and more
potentially angry people, willing to practically attack power and its
meetings, and take them on a do-nothing-and-look-at-us fluffy side.
Another important role they play during protests is also that of
white-dressed cops. Many times t.b. tried to isolate, demask or
physically attack those who passed to action. In May 2000, at the
biotech forum Tebio (Genoa) protests, they even distributed a leaflet
with a sort of \"12 commandments\" to follow during the march. Commandment
number 2 read \"nobody can put in practice spontaneous acts of any kind\",
while number 11 similarly stated that \"during the march no personal or
collective action has to occur\" and number 8 that \"you can throw nothing
that has not been decided by the organizers\". And they also didn\'t
forget an invite to grass with commandment number 12, inviting \"to
inform tute bianche of anything happening\". On that occasion these white
cops couldn\'t stop a block determined to attack directly the capitalism
temples during the march, but some days later they went to the squat
that hosted this block to threaten them for having ruined their show .
More examples come from Ancona, where in May 2000 they lined between
anarchists and cops, or Bologna, where a couple of months earlier at an
anti-fascist demo they preferred the usual fake clashes rather than
attacking fascists. Did you ask yourself why tute bianche\'s actions are
always well known and also appreciated by the press and politicians? The
discussion around that is deeply felt in Italy, if you have a look at
the www.ecn.org/movimento (a sort of mailing exchange) you will see many
people criticizing and attacking tute bianche. Their appearence give you
the feeling that they are a valid and revolutionary moviment. What they
really do is to convert the protest into an istitutional compromise, a
show for the media, reducing all to look for \'social peace\'. That\'s what
they do, they are, day by day, killing the protest. It is clear that
t.b. are a dangerous infiltration in the revolutionary and protest
movement, and a big obstacle for real fight against capitalist power. It
is time for worldwide comrades to know it, in order not to do again the
error of collaboration and complicity. Actually, it is time to get rid
of them! Knowing that they\'ll try to lead the Genoa G8 protests, and are
already preparing their show... will you take a part in it, or will you
ruin it with revolt?

Some rebels (italians)

No one in their right mind would assert that the radical action in Genova was all down to provocateurs, although there was far too much hysteria around this in genoa. However disguised police were operating and agitating in Genova, just like most large mobilisations, and that is a fact. All that is unclear is the scale of that operation.

To discourage debate and analysis of these tactics just because some people say it is an attempt to futher divide people is playing right into their hands.

There have been very clearly documented cases over the last 3 years (sure and many before), but to my knowledge no legal action has ever been taken. Pointing out this form of legalised thuggery and political policing verging on the operation of a private political army is a necessary part of understanding the dynamics of such protests.