Unlimited Senseless CensorRage at IMC-Austria !!
BlackPope | 03.07.2002 23:24
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[Now compare with the grim reality of life under a Censor's Jackboot, where posts such as the following survive a bare 14 minutes...]
[Now compare with the grim reality of life under a Censor's Jackboot, where posts such as the following survive a bare 14 minutes...]
Unlimited Senseless CensorRage at IMC-Austria !!
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The practice of CensorRage is senseless !!
by BlackPope 11:50pm Wed Jul 3 '02 (Modified on 12:17am Thu Jul 4 '02)
The sad daily reality of IMC-Austria makes the pious wish expressed above appear like a grim parody.
Censorship occurs without control or valid justification !!
Even inside the Censored Bucket articles are still censored, again !!
Anyone expressing an open and honest opinion on the so-called 'Antisemitism-Debate' which does not correspond 100% with the private positions of the Mods (or at least one otf them, who goes by the name 'ein indy'), is rubber-stamped with the lazy 'Antisemitic(TM)'-accusation and banned.
These people feel no further need, if even that much, to justify such actions. For example, as Dovid so rightly remarked, a caricature by Steve Bell on Bush's Mideast-speech was censured 2 days ago without so much as a word (1. http:// austria.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12689&group=webcast ) His request there for further info is souvereignly ignored by the same Mods!!
On this page (2.
http://austria.indymedia.org/ front.php3?article_id=12866&group=webcast ) a relay-race of censorship has occurred since yesterday - approximately 6 comments (including the subject of Latuff) were cleansed by 'ein indy'. Then 'Ein anderer indy' [2nd Mod] appears to negociate, but my reply to him is also immediately cut!!
Is this procedure honest, fair or even related to the IMC-Guidelines?
Or does it rather better correspond to the power-hunger of some tiny mind(s), wishing to impose at all costs their own political stamp on everyone? Who carefully guard against any opinion but their own being seen?
One thing I do know for sure - this has got absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with antisemitism!!
If anyone would like to maintain the contrary, then I formally request him to place his definition of antisemitism here as a preliminary basis for any further discussion, OK?
And then to please briefly state why Latuff's artwork is here (IMC_ch,de,austria) 'antisemitic', but not on any other IMC in the world?
Should the British be considered particularly 'antisemitic', since they heaved his drawings right onto the frontpage? (3. http://uk.indymedia.org/ - as of 25.06.02)
Why may no honest, open and uncensored dabate on this subject occur on IMC-Austria?
Schalom, BlackPope
PS: Dovid and similar reasonable persons are very welcome to contact me by email.
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censored
by ein indy 12:04am Thu Jul 4 '02
the above text contains links to antisemitic cartoons and has therefore been hidden.
ein indy
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A further sick joke from EI
by BlackPope 12:17am Thu Jul 4 '02
Time to reclaim IMC-Austria from his dictatorial grip!!
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The practice of CensorRage is senseless !!
by BlackPope 11:50pm Wed Jul 3 '02 (Modified on 12:17am Thu Jul 4 '02)
The sad daily reality of IMC-Austria makes the pious wish expressed above appear like a grim parody.
Censorship occurs without control or valid justification !!
Even inside the Censored Bucket articles are still censored, again !!
Anyone expressing an open and honest opinion on the so-called 'Antisemitism-Debate' which does not correspond 100% with the private positions of the Mods (or at least one otf them, who goes by the name 'ein indy'), is rubber-stamped with the lazy 'Antisemitic(TM)'-accusation and banned.
These people feel no further need, if even that much, to justify such actions. For example, as Dovid so rightly remarked, a caricature by Steve Bell on Bush's Mideast-speech was censured 2 days ago without so much as a word (1. http:// austria.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12689&group=webcast ) His request there for further info is souvereignly ignored by the same Mods!!
On this page (2.
http://austria.indymedia.org/ front.php3?article_id=12866&group=webcast ) a relay-race of censorship has occurred since yesterday - approximately 6 comments (including the subject of Latuff) were cleansed by 'ein indy'. Then 'Ein anderer indy' [2nd Mod] appears to negociate, but my reply to him is also immediately cut!! Is this procedure honest, fair or even related to the IMC-Guidelines?
Or does it rather better correspond to the power-hunger of some tiny mind(s), wishing to impose at all costs their own political stamp on everyone? Who carefully guard against any opinion but their own being seen?
One thing I do know for sure - this has got absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with antisemitism!!
If anyone would like to maintain the contrary, then I formally request him to place his definition of antisemitism here as a preliminary basis for any further discussion, OK?
And then to please briefly state why Latuff's artwork is here (IMC_ch,de,austria) 'antisemitic', but not on any other IMC in the world?
Should the British be considered particularly 'antisemitic', since they heaved his drawings right onto the frontpage? (3.
http://uk.indymedia.org/ - as of 25.06.02) Why may no honest, open and uncensored dabate on this subject occur on IMC-Austria?
Schalom, BlackPope
PS: Dovid and similar reasonable persons are very welcome to contact me by email.
add your own comments
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censored
by ein indy 12:04am Thu Jul 4 '02
the above text contains links to antisemitic cartoons and has therefore been hidden.
ein indy
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A further sick joke from EI
by BlackPope 12:17am Thu Jul 4 '02
Time to reclaim IMC-Austria from his dictatorial grip!!
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BlackPope
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Comments
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Dont feed the troll
04.07.2002 00:28
Dont feed the troll
AntiFA's Final-Solution to Debate?
04.07.2002 09:12
Your morals.. well, you never did have any, did you?
Where you cannot censor, you try to stifle debate with this brain-dead 'Troll-bla-bla-bla', or childish accusations of 'Nazi'?
So with just four words of command he tries to save himselves making any effort towards presenting an argument which can be followed.
This is exactly the type of slobbish thug brain-laziness I have noticed in these little Kommissars. This comment from 'DFTT' (more honest would be 'AntiFA WitchHunter') just underlines the relevance of such an opinion.
He an his sort remind me of the special-commando of sheep in 'Animal Farm', which had been trained to continue bleating 'Four Legs good, Two Legs better!!' until all uncomfortable questions had been drowned out. Just that with these bozos it's supposed to function in reverse, with enforced/intimidated silence, and they don't even possess the sheepish intelligence to come up with such a brilliant motto!
So, as far as I'm concerned, this type can safely be consigned to the dustbin of history of Internet Forums - their thought-policeman contribution is well below zero!!
Also, naturally enough, anyone with a little experience will have learned to simpy filter-out such reflexively bleated orders, and not allow themselves to be bent to the will of a two-legged sheep.
Fearless freedom of thought and speech will fatally rupture the flaccid sails of a DFTT any day.
Therefore, only be encouraged to spurn his pitiful commands!!
Yours sincerely, BP
BlackPope