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US troops told to kill women and children

from Ithica news | 05.06.2002 21:11

US troops told to kill women and children


ITHACA -- The stench of decaying flesh hung heavy in the air as soldiers passed blown-up bunkers and caves.
As they moved down an L-shaped corridor, the stiffened limbs of a Taliban soldier jutted from beneath piles of rock and dust in the sweltering afternoon air.
Ripped-up pages from the Koran, and booklets describing ways to kill Americans, littered the tree-lined valley
that had been bombarded by U.S. air strikes before their arrival.
These recollections, marking the intensity of every hour of every day felt in combat, typify the memories that
resurface for veterans of World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War and other military combat this Memorial
Day weekend.

For Army Private Matt Guckenheimer, who recently returned home to Tompkins County after two missions in
Eastern Afghanistan, processing these memories and readjusting to American life has just begun.
Guckenheimer, who helped clear the L-shaped valley near the border of Pakistan whose twists and turns are
burned into his memory, explained the nature of his company's mission. In doing so, he spoke candidly about the
reality of war.

In an April interview with The Ithaca Journal at his family's Cayuga Heights home, Guckenheimer, 22, shared his experiences during Operation Anaconda. He was sent on March 6 in a company of more than 100 soldiers to
participate in the largest U.S.-led ground engagement in Eastern Afghanistan.

"We were told there were no friendly forces," said Guckenheimer, an assistant gunner with the 10th Mountain
Division at Fort Drum. "If there was anybody there, they were the enemy. We were told specifically that if there were women and children to kill them."

Taliban al-Qaida soldiers had already been given about two weeks to surrender when U.S. soldiers were ordered to demolish their last strongholds and finish the operation, he said.

Guckenheimer said he loved learning about tanks and guns and watching battle scenes on TV when he was young.
As a teen-ager, he said, his desire to prepare himself to confront the challenges of war intensified despite his
family's disapproval. After attending Ithaca High School his freshman year, he transferred to a boarding school in Bath, Maine.

His parents, Meredith Kusch and John Guckenheimer, attended Oberlin College in Ohio and the University of
California at Berkeley during the Vietnam era. They used to joke that they would disown him if he ever joined the military, he said.
"They're just about the most passive people you could want," he said with a smile. "I just ended up not being that way."

Guckenheimer said he believed his parents had been indoctrinated with a skewed view of the Vietnam War that led them to undervalue war's place in defending the United States. But he said he has noticed a shift in their outlook since Sept. 11.

John Guckenheimer agreed, to an extent, with his son's assessment.
"I think it was necessary for the U.S. to respond militarily to the events of Sept. 11, but I don't feel completely
comfortable with the way the war in Afghanistan is being conducted," he said.

He thinks that the United States is settling into a long and entrenched war in the region, and might repeat the mistakes the Russians made there.

As a Cornell math professor, he said, he has worked with members of the armed forces and has held them in high regard. Regarding the U.S. military as an institution, and his and his wife's opinion of it, he said, "I don't know that our attitudes in general have changed since Matt joined."

Matt Guckenheimer said his first combat experience in Afghanistan was enough.

"I know that I can get through it, so the challenge is gone," Guckenheimer said. "I don't think wanting to put
yourself in that position is really healthy to begin with."

Because of the effectiveness of earlier U.S. military operations in Afghanistan, the number of Taliban soldiers
killed during Guckenheimer's missions was minimal, he said. He knew of only about 10 enemy fighters who were killed, he said.

"Most of it (the difficulty of the missions) wasn't as much the enemy as it was the elements," he said.
Adjusting to the high altitude and low oxygen levels of the region was a struggle. Layers of Gortex and fleece couldn't shield them from the cold nights. They would wake up to find their canteens covered in ice, he said.

When he returned to the United States after spending a month either on missions or at the Bagram military base, Guckenheimer said, he remembered how alienated Americans are from each other. After living in a Third World country, where people he didn't know would smile or say hello to him on the streets, it was jarring to return home, where contact among strangers is mostly shunned.

"These people who lived through life, they seemed to be more grounded," he said. Coming home was like walking
back into a "clueless" society where over-consumption is commonly regarded as the route to happiness, he said.
He said although he only interacted with Afghan men, those he spoke to looked forward to women re-entering public life. On the whole, he said, residents of the towns attached to the Bagram base had been able to achieve a measure of happiness despite living amid constant war.

Guckenheimer returned to Fort Drum on April 24. He said he looked forward to their next assignment and would
like to serve in Sinai, Egypt.

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05.06.2002 21:35

Guckenheimer said he loved learning about tanks and guns and watching battle scenes on TV when he was young.
As a teen-ager, he said, his desire to prepare himself to confront the challenges of war intensified despite his
family's disapproval.

The brainwashing, desensitizing and conditioning was not wasted on Guckenheimer.

Hollywood


"The Gutless Wonder"

06.06.2002 01:17

"The Gutless Wonder"
"The Gutless Wonder"

this guy reminds me of a book I wrote many years ago, the hero of which was a humanoid robot trained to drop gellified incendiary bombs on defenceless human civilians.

He also regarded his job as a challenge.

It saddens me greatly now to think that soon mindless robots will make brave white-trash gameboy soldiers like Mr. Gurckenheimer as redundant as six tits on a boar.

Perhaps then he will join the noble people he so thoroughly enjoyed extinguishing.

But then again, as a fully programmable employee of The World Mafia-Don he will surely be put to another pertinent use, before being scrapped to a trailer-park in Florida.

Makes me proud to have the Neo-US-Flag tatooed on my forehead!

Kilgore Trout


Sterling work, Matt - we feel your pain !!

06.06.2002 02:10

yes, they certainly 'walked through life' and were, like, really 'grounded' an' stuff, and, like, you know, shit an' all - but then the Avengeing Angels of Death dropped by, Matt and his buddies, bearing gifts of 'daisy-cutters' and other cutely-named machines designed to butcher humans cheaply en-masse.

And about 10,000 of these nice, pleasant people just kinda somehow inexplicably quit breathing, see, after their lungs had been pulled inside-out and their bowels rent asunder.

But apart from these understandable slip-ups there were also traumatic, tragic consequences for our Gameboy Heroes - several had terrifying nightmares of chilly water-bottles and quite a few suffered spontaneous sphincter dysfunction and dirtied togs when the saw an undead Arabite clutching a short pole. Luckily, an immediate precision airstrike by the LuftWaffe eliminated this threat scenario, plus the whole population of the same village.

Now Private Wank-o-Matt and his brave chums are back at base, busily licking their damaged egos, having their ringpieces tightened with intensive electro-shock-therapy and gearing up for the next war against evil meat, and grammar, in whichever lair they may hide.

Tomorrow will be a new day, so full, of Death.

Heil Bush!
Heil Blair!
Heil Sharon!

Chain-Driven Daisy Chopperker