Cool quote by Amos Oz
Josh | 27.05.2002 17:18
I was reading 'Black Box' by Amos Oz over the weekend, and I came across this dialogue between an estranged mother and son...
"...Sure. Are you blind or something? Can't you see what's going on? These wars and all the bullshit? Quarreling and killing all the time, instead of living it up? Eating their hearts out and then shooting and planting bombs. I'm against the situation. I happen to be quite a Zionist, if you must know."
"You're *what*??"
"A Zionist. Wanting everyone to be okay. And for everyone to do just a little for the country, even something really tiny, just half an hour a day so they can feel good and know they're still needed. If you don't do anything, very soon you start getting into trouble. Take you and your husbands for instance. Not one of the three of yuo knows what it really means to live. You just fuss all the time instead of doing something. Including that 'saint' and his mates from the territories. They're living off the Bible, living off politics, living off speeches and arguments, instead of living off life. It's the same thing with the Arabs. They've learned from the Jews how to eat their hearts out and how to eat each other and how to eat people instead of ordinary food. I'm not saying the Arabs aren't bastards. They are, and worse. So what? Bastards are still human beings. Not shit. It's a shame for them to die. In the end the Jews will finish them off or they'll finish the Jews off or they'll finish each other off and there'll be nothing left in this country except the Bible and the Koran and the foxes and and burned ruins."
(I like it. Zionism is a dirty word nowadays, but it shouldnt be. People here will read the above and pick what to agree with and what to ignore. Amos Oz paints the picture like it is, its very complex...)
"You're *what*??"
"A Zionist. Wanting everyone to be okay. And for everyone to do just a little for the country, even something really tiny, just half an hour a day so they can feel good and know they're still needed. If you don't do anything, very soon you start getting into trouble. Take you and your husbands for instance. Not one of the three of yuo knows what it really means to live. You just fuss all the time instead of doing something. Including that 'saint' and his mates from the territories. They're living off the Bible, living off politics, living off speeches and arguments, instead of living off life. It's the same thing with the Arabs. They've learned from the Jews how to eat their hearts out and how to eat each other and how to eat people instead of ordinary food. I'm not saying the Arabs aren't bastards. They are, and worse. So what? Bastards are still human beings. Not shit. It's a shame for them to die. In the end the Jews will finish them off or they'll finish the Jews off or they'll finish each other off and there'll be nothing left in this country except the Bible and the Koran and the foxes and and burned ruins."
(I like it. Zionism is a dirty word nowadays, but it shouldnt be. People here will read the above and pick what to agree with and what to ignore. Amos Oz paints the picture like it is, its very complex...)
Josh
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AMOS OZ supports represion of Palestinians
28.05.2002 15:36
After the outbreak of the 2nd Intifada, Amos Oz and many of his friends in PEACE NOW (Israeli Peace group) decided that the Palestinians were ungrateful to rebel against Barak's "generous" offer made at Camp David, and turned against them, many now deciding to support the IDF and Israeli State Terrorism.
(Unfortunately they didn't realise that under the peace process life had actually gotten worse for ordinary Palestinians, living standards had plummetted, and repression actually increased)
And the peace offer itself was far from generous -
(I refer readers to an excellent article on the Website of GUSH SHALOM - the ISRAELI PEACE BLOC - on what was ungenerous about Barak's offer).
PEACE NOW is an organisation that constantly talks of peace in terms of Israel's security, and the damage the Occupation does to Israel's reputation, and the effects the Occupation has on Israel.
They forget that Palestinians have absolutely no security, they live under military occupation, they have no state, just the number of Palestinian children killed is more than the total number of Israeli's killed in this conflict.
The Israeli Defence Forces have beaten up hundreds of pregnant women (who have suffered miscarriages), peaceful demonstrators, practice torture, bulldozed Palestinian houses to the ground, teargassed mosques etc. etc.
(For details of Israel's truly appaling human rights record, I refer you to the Websites of B'TSELEM - A respected Israeli human rights organisation & RABBI'S AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES).
Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve equal rights and Justice, and freedom from fear.
The current situation dehumanizes both oppressor and oppressed.
Antonius Cliffus Jnr.
Peace Now are alright
28.05.2002 20:42
And I have that phrase echoing in my head, "foxes and burned ruins", and I can see that happening if the Sharons and the Barghoutis carry on in Israel without support from the international community for Peace movements, especially those in Israel.
Josh
e-mail: osh_josh_bgosh@nospam.hotmail.com