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PEACELINE PRODS AND CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE FROM UFF

agnesvandervan | 16.05.2002 21:49

The desolate wasteland of one of north belfasts notorious peacelines, and favourite hunting ground of the Shankill butchers, Duncairn gardens, interface between loyalist UFF, tiger bay, and republican New lodge, the few remaining families on lower Duncairn had their windows broken on Monday.

An elderly protestant lady who has cancer, and a another catholic male resident, had the windows of their houses broken, by rampaging UFF thugs from loyalist UFF tiger bay. The isolated lower Duncairn community, whats left of the once mixed religion Duncairn gardens area, working class protestants and catholics who lived side by side in the once thriving Duncairn gardens. New lodge Sein fein were the first on the scene, and they offered their support to the residents who had their windows broken, regardless of the residents respective religions. As a former prod resident of Duncairn gardens, i can say that Sein Fein have given us their utmost support and unbiased friendship to all the lower Duncairn residents, and have stood side by side with all residents of Duncairn Gardens, regardless of the religion of the residents against UFF neo nazi thugs.

agnesvandervan

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vote for Sein fein today!

17.05.2002 09:22

Dare I say it, but unionist politicians have also stood by Roman Catholics who have had their homes attacked by loyalist hoods. Was this a press release from the offices of New Lodge Sein fein? It reads like one. Whilst I am sure it is true, it is also true that Sein fein is not so quick to act when the IRA decide to pick on their own, by way of 'policing' their community. Why was this posting made?

jimbob


COMMUNITY RESTORITATIVE JUSTICE

17.05.2002 20:04

yes but unionists only want a photo opportunity, their concern for the working class is merely superfial, if they were that concerned about the fate of ordinary prods and catholics they wouldnt keep getting their brutal pigservice scumbags to beat the crap out of working class catholics and prods. Sein fein on the other hand, are genuinely concerned for the fate of working class prods and catholics, lets not forget the first Irish revolutionaries were protestant, so they have no bones about supporting any section of the working class prod or catholic population as long as theyre not neo nazi capitalist gobshites. Community Restoritative justice is certainly alot better than middle class snobby pig scum, banging working class people up, and wasting tax payers money on stupid pompous legal system trials, and prisons, why not give the offenders a beating, and thats the end of the matter, wheres the harm in that, at least you're not saddled with a criminal record or have to go to jail or pay a fine, instead of the brutal criminal justice system we have now, where the offender is still given a beating by pig scum and still has to go to jail/pay a fine as well.

tia testosterone


theres no government like no government

17.05.2002 20:21

it has never occured to me to vote, as an anarchist i dont vote, but now that youre urging me to vote Sein Fein, i think i will. Sein Fein dont need to enter the political voting arena, they dont need votes as they already have mass support in most working class catholic areas, they are only entering the political voting system to annoy the ultra right wing conservative loyalist unionist pro junta types. As if voting ever changed anything. Voting, governments and political parties dont change anything, but a vote for Sein Fein will really annoy and fuk over snobby sargent major binky old boy types and also the affluent capitalist middle classes, voting doesnt change anything but it might put the wind up capitalists.

ona deathlist


hold on there, tia

18.05.2002 09:27

"Community Restoritative justice is certainly alot better than middle class snobby pig scum". So a thug in a mask taking the kneecaps off a 15 kid is better than a police force? Lots of RUC are bigotted arseholes but I know which justice I would prefer. You seem to have taken the 'Daily Mail' view of anarchy - that it stands for senseless violence. Wrong. Being crippled for life is not justice. As for Ona, Sein Fein are taking part in politics because they have realised that whilst violence has made some gains, it will not take them further. If they are only in politics to 'annoy the ultra right wing conservative loyalist unionist pro junta types' them why are taking part in a huge campaign in the South? Sein Fein need votes because they are a political party, pure and simple (well, not as clean cut I suppose). Why this great sympathy for Sein Fein and - it is inferred - the IRA? Why not hope for social justice for all, to overcome the decades of bitter conflict and pain on both sides? (I can hear strings in the background). The IRA, INLA, UFF, UVF, UDA, UVF etc., are all murderous bastards, fighting for a cause but all too willing to twist it for their own private gain. Leave off Northern Ireland unless you know what the hell you are taking about.

jimbob


Sectarianism

19.05.2002 18:50

I never could have expected to see such nonsense as this on
a leftie site.
There's a lot of people in Northern Ireland with really crap views, and little of what l have read above has done anything to change my mind on that.
The RUC (or PSNI or whatever) are pretty unpleasant, as are the Community Restorative Justice people.
Neither offer any kind of analytic solution to dealing with crime and social delinquence. The RUC regularly hassle and occasionally beat up people from working class communities. Once in a while they lock them up, too. The CRJ regularly hassle and occasionally beat up people from working class communities.
Neither see the indignity of poverty and deprivation as the root cause of social delinquence. Rather, it's just a case of some young lads getting out of hand, and having to be dealt with.
Fuck you both.
And an Anarchist voting Republican? Giving Anarchists a bad name, l reckon. Not just for voting, but for supporting fairly sectarian organisations like Sinn Fein. And when's the last time a protestant worker ever gained from Sinn Fein's blatantly Blairite, corporatitst politics.
And what l really want to know is how can you have contributors using fairly class-conscious language asking people to support Sinn Fein? If there is going to be a class-based, irreligious political party in Northern Ireland, it will NOT be Sinn Fein. They have too much of a sectarian history to ever appeal to Protestant workers. Besides, Sinn Fein has made too much of a rightwards shift to recover to a left-leaning position where they can even pretend to be a party acting ON BEHALF of workers' interests, as they once did.

Zach