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Socialism vs chauvinism on Israel-Palestine: some events

Martin Thomas | 27.04.2002 09:33

Some recent events summarised: an exclusion from a meeting in Birmingham, the 13 March Palestine demonstration in London and the left's response to it.

1. Saturday 23 March, Birmingham. A workshop on Palestine at a conference sponsored by the Stop the War campaigns and the Trades Council. AWL member Jim Denham speaks, argues for "two nations, two states", says that while crimes were committed in the setting up of Israel in 1948, it is false to describe it as "genocide". Heckling, denunciations. Eventually, after Jim mutters "that's not true" in response to an accusation, a member of the audience moves across the meeting to Jim and grabbed him (not a serious physical assault), and then storms out of the room. The chair responds by instructing Jim to leave the meeting, which he does after quietly stating a protest. Afterwards the chair tells Jim that it is his, Jim's, views, which make him unacceptable in the meeting, not any fault of behaviour.

2. Also in Birmingham: AWL members put out a leaflet, "why socialists should be secular". At a meeting of the "dissident" or "non-SWP" Stop the War committee (there is a split in Stop the War in Birmingham), the leaflet is denounced as "something the BNP could put out" and Jim as an "Islamophobe". No AWL member is present. Others in the meeting dissent from the denunciation. The committee decides to table the question of the leaflet and Jim's views for discussion at its next meeting.

3. Saturday 13 March, London. The Socialist Alliance executive discusses its attitude to the Palestine demonstration that same afternoon called by the Muslim Association. AWL member Martin Thomas points out that the Muslim Association's most prominent indication of its politics, on its website, is a top-featured link to the Pakistani fundamentalist party Jamaat-e-Islami; argues that the Socialist Alliance should not "go with the flow" of such politics but raise clearly distinct socialist slogans such as "two nations, two states". No-one disputes the facts about the Muslim Association; but the meeting votes for the slogans "Victory to the intifada! Free Palestine!" The SWP members present vote against "Israel out of the occupied territories" (wrong emphasis, they explain).

4. Saturday 13 March, London: the demonstration. Very big - perhaps not the 100,000 claimed, but very big. As the march sets off, stewards try (with not much success) to separate marchers into segregated men's and women's contingents. The dominant theme is Sharon = Hitler, Zionist = Nazi, Star of David = swastika. Few precise demands (none on the leaflet calling for the demonstration). Rally in Trafalgar Square opens with a reading of verses from the Koran. Jeremy Corbyn and Tony Benn speak. They are repeatedly interrupted, at the microphone, by an imam chanting Allah-o-Akhbar and getting the crowd to chant along.

5. Some Asian demonstrators individually express dissent by refusing fundamentalist leaflets, by not standing still for the readings from the Koran, or by taking "two nations, two states" placards from AWL members there. No collective, visible, organised expression of dissent from the left groupings in the demonstration.

Martin Thomas
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whoopee for the fucking AWL

27.04.2002 11:07

It is once again a travesty to see such nonsense from the hard left. Muslim minorities in the West are suffering a terrible backlash from all aspects of British society and leftist parties such as AWL are contributing to this. The last pro-Palestine demo saw a huge manifestation of ethnic minorities mobilising on the streets in solidarity with the intifada for the first time. Jus bacuse it didnt hav as many white leftists doesnt mean it was reactionary or fundamentalist such an analogy is down right racist and ignorant. The mention of the Quran, Allahuakbr as being examples of this, are stupid and irrelevant. These things are important to some people and if u cant understand why then at least attempt to try to understand. There may hav been a minority of fundamentalists, i saw some members of Hizb ut Tahrir, but instead of demonising them let alone an entire culture and community, I suggest u AWL twats make efforts to know how these ethnic minority groups really work. Perhaps u should talk to them, instead of having this ignorant attitude that we are more "progressive" then they are.

Jamal


too fucking right!

27.04.2002 11:43

couldn't of said it better myself. the problem with the april 13th demo was that it wasn't white enough. ie it seemed to be boycotted by many lefties who don't really know how to relate to one of the biggest anti-imperialist movements since '68. people enter into resistance against the system with all sorts of different ideas in their heads and if socialists can't see that, let alone knoe how to relate to it then the left is f***ed. less of the abstract, preaching 'red teacher' and we might start to get more 'red agitators'

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