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anti capitalist | 16.04.2002 22:24

Indeed, that is precisely what they have been busy doing in Zimbabwe, where a Trotskyist outfit known as International Socialist Organisation (ISO), sister organisation of the British SWP, has been a founder member of the MDC, which even by the admission of Trotskyists is totally dominated by capitalists, white farmers, middle class elements and, above all, by imperialism.

There is a Zimbabwe indymedia.
But is ran by SWP from within England.

Indeed, that is precisely what they have been busy doing in Zimbabwe, where a Trotskyist outfit known as International Socialist Organisation (ISO), sister organisation of the British SWP, has been a founder member of the MDC, which even by the admission of Trotskyists is totally dominated by capitalists, white farmers, middle class elements and, above all, by imperialism. The efforts of the ISO, and its only MP, Munyaradzi Gwisai, who represents the Highfield constituency of Harare, have been concentrated on the destruction of "…the Zanu dictatorship and the propertied classes of bosses in whose service the Zanu-PF dictatorship ultimately operates" (quoted in the Weekly Worker of 19 July 2001). If that is the case, one wonders why imperialism has created the MDC (which the Trots, with their characteristic subservience to imperialism, have joined with such glee) to destroy "the Zanu-PF dictatorship"? The question has only to be posed to get the answer that all reactionary forces - from imperialism to the Trots - have joined hands, as they have always done, to overthrow a progressive regime which wishes to better the lives of its people by taking some radical progressive steps such as land distribution.

Please shut down zimbawe IMC

anti capitalist

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in Venezuala they did the same thing

16.04.2002 22:35

In Venezuela the totskyists called to fight Chavez.

We have seen their allies las weekend.

I agree : shut down the trotkyist ran zimbabwe IMC.

Chavez


Zanu PF forever

16.04.2002 23:37

Yeah fuck you, shut down Indymedia, this is the progressive voice of ZANU PF, fuck you motherfucking critics!

Robert Mugabe


fucking cia swp mi5 mdc imc fucking SPOOKS!

17.04.2002 00:14

Keep away from these sites, can't you see, are you all blind???

They are controling your fucking minds!!!

IMC = International Mind Control

When will you fucking wake up to this

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Stalinist twaddle

17.04.2002 00:56

You have obviously not read anything from the ISO to be able to come to this rather stupid conclusion. The fact that you claim to be an anti-imperialism is the more shocking.
In future, don't clutter this website with your stalinist drivel.
Anymore than this I feel dignifies your pathetic attack on those who are risking their lives fighting repression.
I suggest you go to a library and do some reading, learn something, that way you won't be a danger to any one else.

Fred


Wrongly said, Fred

17.04.2002 10:35

Is this the same Fred who is a member of the SWP's Imperialist wing in Swansea, using the Welsh Socialist Alliance as a front organisation for their sad electoral London-centred anti-Welsh reformist bullshit?

Jim
mail e-mail: serengoch@hotmail.com


ISO Zimbabwe

17.04.2002 10:39

ISO comrades are trying to build a socialist movement in Zimbabwe against terrible odds. They've faced harassment, violence and repeated arrest, but they won't give in.

Do ISO oppose Mugabe and ZANU-PF? Yes; because Mugabe's regime has systematically crushed all opposition and attacked and broken up workers organisations for years. Through most of the 80s and 90s Mugabe followed an IMF agenda of cuts and privatisation. Only recently has he picked up land reform again, as a vote-winner for the elections.

Do ISO support MDC? They have, because MDC was founded by the trade unions as a political voice for workers in opposition to the cuts and privatisation. It's true the MDC leadership has more recently courted favour with US and European governments and capitalists; and the ISO are considering their position accordingly.

This is serious stuff. It's temptingly easy from outside Zimbabwe to cast Mugabe as some sort of anti-imperialist hero; but if you want the real picture, talk to activists who actually live, work and try to organise there.

Enough from me. Check out IMC Zimbabwe, and also read about ISO in their own words on their new website:

internationalist
- Homepage: http://www.voiceoftheturtle.org/iso


ISO beliefs

17.04.2002 11:48

I put these very points to a member of the ISO who I met two years ago. He said that his party wishes to work with others to overthrow a particularly brutal regime, but that the struggle does not end there. The fact is that by destroying Mugabe's authoritarian state, the Zimbabwean left feels it will have the space for further class mobilisation. In fact, the ISO has been an important force in preventing the MDC from forming some kind of alliance or coalition government with Zanu-PF.

As for being run by the British SWP, I feel that is somewhat patronising and offensive to those ISO activists who are faced with maurauding Zanu death squads. They are putting up with extreme hardship for their beliefs and everyone, not just the SWP, should lend them support and even constructive criticism. To condemn outright them like this is to play into Mugabe's hands. Instead of moaning from your armchairs in affluent Britain, try to understand the situation in Zimbabwe, which is facing famine, and help your comrades in their struggle.

Daniel Brett
mail e-mail: dan@danielbrett.co.uk
- Homepage: http://zimbabwe.indymedia.org/


Paranoia

17.04.2002 12:24

You may think Indymedia is mind control, but look at the evidence. It is open, I mean people like you can publish, for fucks sake. It is a damn good way of organising resistance, protest etc. And above all, it tells us whats going on, really going on, in the world. When every mainstream press platform reports business news and whats happening on the TV, Indymedia tells us about Hugo Chavez, about demonstrations that happen throughout the world and about whats really going on. Its just pananoid counter-revolutionaries like you who can deny indymedia is a good thing

Benny S


Zimbabwe IMC isn't run from London (official)

19.04.2002 10:57

I took the time to look into the Zimbabwe IMC comments posted above - and i am assured by the people who deal with new imc's that they are definately based in Zimbabwe.

And as for some people in that imc being part of a political group like ISO - this is not a problem - as long as the whole imc is not being used to further a party's agenda etc. I can see no evidence of that and would like to squash the rumour before it starts.

The Zimbabwe IMC is run on an open basis and will include i hope people from many different groups and political views - all working towards Social Justice. To be an imc they have to abide by certain ways of organising, ie. non-heirarchical, open, min of 5 people in the collective, concensus etc (these common guidelines can be found at  http://newimc.indymedia.org/)

If you have questions about IMC Zimbabwe - why not ask them rather than ranting about them without giving them a chance to reply.

Tony
(one of imc-uk)

IMC uk - tony