Man means Woman
NJ Cartwright | 23.01.2002 07:00
Men must learn to accept that they are unfit for the position which they have usurped - is it womb envy?
The 22nd January 2002 was the 29th anniversary of the famous case of Roe v Wade in the US which legalised abortion in that country.
Now, it would seem, the US has cosied up with the vatican because there is debate on this subject once again and the Supreme Court may vote to withdraw this vital freedom.
I've got nothing against chaps. Some of them are really nice. I would not presume to tell them what they should do with their testicles (for example) because I haven't got any and their balls are their business.
So can anyone tell me why a bunch of blokes should feel that they have the right to tell me what I, a female, should do with my own personal bits and pieces?
Let's get something straight shall we? When a chap has squirted his semen into a woman's body, that's that. The responsibility for what happens to that semen is no longer anything to do with him. He has given it to the woman and it is now hers. He has no more say. Is that too difficult to comprehend?
Should a baby be the result then they can make their own arrangements regarding sharing responsibility if they choose but the decision on whether to produce a child is for the individual woman to make and, should she choose not to, then she should have access to safe abortion.
I do not advocate abortion as a form of contraceptive - fertility awareness and education must play their part - but making abortion illegal will only send it underground and women will suffer.
Have you noticed what a shite world it's been since the rule of women was usurped by men? Precedent has shown us that women are the true leaders since all innovation originally came from women. Don't forget, we're ALL women to start with and, yes, 'man' really does mean 'woman'.
Now, it would seem, the US has cosied up with the vatican because there is debate on this subject once again and the Supreme Court may vote to withdraw this vital freedom.
I've got nothing against chaps. Some of them are really nice. I would not presume to tell them what they should do with their testicles (for example) because I haven't got any and their balls are their business.
So can anyone tell me why a bunch of blokes should feel that they have the right to tell me what I, a female, should do with my own personal bits and pieces?
Let's get something straight shall we? When a chap has squirted his semen into a woman's body, that's that. The responsibility for what happens to that semen is no longer anything to do with him. He has given it to the woman and it is now hers. He has no more say. Is that too difficult to comprehend?
Should a baby be the result then they can make their own arrangements regarding sharing responsibility if they choose but the decision on whether to produce a child is for the individual woman to make and, should she choose not to, then she should have access to safe abortion.
I do not advocate abortion as a form of contraceptive - fertility awareness and education must play their part - but making abortion illegal will only send it underground and women will suffer.
Have you noticed what a shite world it's been since the rule of women was usurped by men? Precedent has shown us that women are the true leaders since all innovation originally came from women. Don't forget, we're ALL women to start with and, yes, 'man' really does mean 'woman'.
NJ Cartwright
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More feminist hatred
23.01.2002 07:14
The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist." (National NOW Times, Jan.1988).
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." (radical feminist leader Sheila Cronan).
"Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family-maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that." (Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, "The Daily Illini," April 25, 1981.
"The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it." (Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in "Women and the New Rage," p.67.
"In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them." (Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman).
"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft." (from "The Declaration of Feminism," November 1971).
"Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole... patriarch!" (Gloria Steinhem, radical feminist leader, editor of 'MS' magazine).
In response to a question concerning China's policy of compulsory abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, "I consider the Chinese government's policy among the most intelligent in the world." (Gary Bauer, "Abetting Coercion in China," The Washington Times", October 10, 1989).
"Let's forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace and inspiration from real women... Two thousand years of patriarchal rule under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the feminist 'salvation' of this world." (Annie Laurie Gaylor, "Feminist Salvation," "The Humanist", July/August 1988, p.37. 10.
"And let's put one lie to rest for all time: the lie that men are oppressed, too, by sexism--the lie that there can be such a thing as 'men's liberation groups.' Oppression is something that one group of people commits against another group, specifically because of a 'threatening' characteristic shared by the latter group--skin color, sex or age, etc. The oppressors are indeed FUCKED UP by being masters, but those masters are not OPPRESSED. Any master has the alternative of divesting himself of sexism or racism--the oppressed have no alternative--for they have no power--but to fight. In the long run, Women's Liberation will of course free men--but in the short run it's going to cost men a lot of privilege, which no one gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is NOT the fault of women--kill your fathers, not your mothers." -- Robin Morgan
"My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter." -- Marilyn French, in "The Women's Room"
I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, MS. Magazine Editor
"By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God." (Gloria Steinhem, editor of 'MS' magazine.)
Letter to the Editor: "Women's Turn to Dominate"
"To Proud Feminist, (Herald-Sun, 7 February). Your last paragraph is shocking language from a feminist. You use the entrenched, revolting male stereotypes of women and rationalize your existence by saying you are neither "ugly" nor "manless", as though either of these male-oriented judgments matter.
"Clearly you are not yet a free-thinking feminist but rather one of those women who bounce off the male-dominated, male- controlled social structures.
"Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don't like it, bad luck -- and if you get in my way I'll run you down."
Signed: Liberated Woman, Boronia Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia - 9 February 1996
"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow up things up. They are not Rambo," said Jodie Foster in The New York Times Magazine
"If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal -- a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students -- I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment...of persuading students that women are oppressed," said Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University in "Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women."
FEMINISTS ON RAPE:
"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it." -- Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan
"All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French, Author, "The Women's Room"
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometime gain from the experience," said Catherine Comins, Vassar College Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time.
"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." -- Robin Morgan
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin
"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent," said Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies.
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual [male], it may be mainly a quantitative difference." -- Susan Griffin "Rape: The All-American Crime"
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" -- Ti-Grace Atkinson "Amazon Odyssey" (p. 86)
"[Rape] is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" -- Susan Brownmiller (Against Our Will p. 6)
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." -- Sheila Jeffrys
FEMINIST DEFINITIONS:
FROM 'A Feminist Dictionary', ed. Kramarae and Treichler, Pandora Press, 1985
*MALE: ... represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants... the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.'
*MAN: ... an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched ... a contradictory baby-man ...
*TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have
it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning."
How it is
Seemed fair comment to me...
23.01.2002 10:35
Unthreatened male
Sexist lies
23.01.2002 10:52
-- feminist lies.
Misandry sucks.
Great women
23.01.2002 11:55
D B
There seems to be some confusion
23.01.2002 12:43
I do not hate men. I have been married to one for 25 years though it seems that some would consider me 'enslaved' by this. I love my husband beyond belief. We have grown together and, as years pass, the mutual love and affection grow stronger. It's not an experience that many have the patience to allow but it's one that is well worth the effort.
When we make love I am not being raped.
I feel just as sorry for the women who hate men as for the men who hate women. The problem here, of course, is the hate. Nothing more. And the hate is probably stirred up by those who benefit from it. Divide and rule it's called.
Are there no men out there who can agree with compassion that a woman's body is her own?
In a civilised society the question would not even arise.
NJ Cartwright
Sperm Ownership
23.01.2002 13:36
Your assumption is incorrect. While it is true that nobody should dictate what a woman can and cannot do with her body, in the event of conception the man does not give his sperm to the woman but to the foetus. This gives the man a legitimate right and interest to be a part of the decision-making process, or at least to be consulted. Particularly as a decision not to abort will expose the man to considerable financial and legal liabilities.
AW
ludicrous
23.01.2002 14:30
phril
What bullshit
23.01.2002 15:30
Gonzo
No frills...
23.01.2002 16:25
colonial
Women's role
23.01.2002 18:40
It's alright luv, I've sorted the stupid bitch out. 'Ere, giv us a kiss. 'X' Cheers luv.
Northern Man
Semenal Issues-the seed of the Patriarchs
24.01.2002 05:11
Semenal Issues-the seed of the Patriarchs
Amused, 'cause if their sperm's so sacred when they impregnate a woman - why are blowing their loads off as often as posible- and nothing wrong with that - sex should be a source of delight for all concerned -
not so amused by the misogyny -
Straight ladz - why do you need to dominate women -
Open yer mind, body, cunt, prick, arse & soul and...
FUCK THE RICH
No Whore But The Class Whore
@ Queen
Don't get me wrong
24.01.2002 07:07
Gonzo
women, know your limits!
24.01.2002 13:40
No no, I salute these keyboard warriors for bravely standing up against the tyranny of feminism. These courageous lads will decide exactly what freedoms women deserve, and how far they should be allowed to go.
I bet they've all got huge cocks, too.
a nonny mouse