Will anonymous anti-Gosling please get-a-life?
Tony Gosling | 22.01.2002 16:52
I wish people who slag me off would at least make an effort to get a few facts right! And my advice to them: either give up Trotsky or.... get-a-life
In case you're wondering - today's cowardly and anonymous anti-Tony tirade is almost certainly from London 'Class War' who I've been in communication with recently over Shayler's allegations that they were infiltrated by a Met. police officer.
see http://www.bilderberg.org/sis.htm#skullandcrossbones
Tony
Apart from the general trot style drivel -
Factual Inaccuracies.
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1. I'm not an Oxford graduate
2. I publish FACTS on Bilderberg I'm not a conspiracy theorist
3. I have never worked for any part of the Daily Mail Group (but I did write an article on their takeover of Bristol's media and their links to the Nazis)
4. Recruit Activists? Who? Who for?
5. I question this society across every square inch of my website.
6. An ex BBC researcher and reporter I have been involved with organising nonviolent direct action myself for the last 10 years and support it's careful use.
7. I am not a "liberal professional confuser" I am doing my best to untangle the confusion in the world. Particularly when it comes tosecret state's interference in political pressure groups. Definately not a 'liberal'.
8. I have never spread misinformation - give me an example.
9. Custody Visitors are unpaid and there to pull up the police when conditions in cells slip below reasonable standards/people aren't getting their rights. They (we) were set up by lord Scarman after the Brixton Riots as an independent check on the police. We are the very opposite to police PR.
10. I met Shayler personally and am convinced he is genuine.
11. I have attacked no-one who?
12. I think the state is far too powerful and believe in much more local autonomy. Wrong again.
13. The rabble - far from being kept in line - are part of the solution which can only come from the bottom up. Wrong again.
When you're up to speed on this stuff......
Do you want to try again?
see http://www.bilderberg.org/sis.htm#skullandcrossbones
Tony
Apart from the general trot style drivel -
Factual Inaccuracies.
---------------------
1. I'm not an Oxford graduate
2. I publish FACTS on Bilderberg I'm not a conspiracy theorist
3. I have never worked for any part of the Daily Mail Group (but I did write an article on their takeover of Bristol's media and their links to the Nazis)
4. Recruit Activists? Who? Who for?
5. I question this society across every square inch of my website.
6. An ex BBC researcher and reporter I have been involved with organising nonviolent direct action myself for the last 10 years and support it's careful use.
7. I am not a "liberal professional confuser" I am doing my best to untangle the confusion in the world. Particularly when it comes tosecret state's interference in political pressure groups. Definately not a 'liberal'.
8. I have never spread misinformation - give me an example.
9. Custody Visitors are unpaid and there to pull up the police when conditions in cells slip below reasonable standards/people aren't getting their rights. They (we) were set up by lord Scarman after the Brixton Riots as an independent check on the police. We are the very opposite to police PR.
10. I met Shayler personally and am convinced he is genuine.
11. I have attacked no-one who?
12. I think the state is far too powerful and believe in much more local autonomy. Wrong again.
13. The rabble - far from being kept in line - are part of the solution which can only come from the bottom up. Wrong again.
When you're up to speed on this stuff......
Do you want to try again?
Tony Gosling
e-mail:
tony@gaia.org
Homepage:
http://www.bilderberg.org/sis.htm#skullandcrossbones
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Divide and argue
22.01.2002 18:41
It is not a good idea to slag of other people, particularly people who are on the same side as you. You see the idea is that we change things (get rid of capitalism, treat the environment with repect and give full and enforced rights to every person on the globe (like the right to clean water food and shelter)) and in order to change things we have to stand together.
Ranged against us are forces of capitalism and everyone of the rich and powerful has a selfish interest in keeping things this way. On our side there is no selfish motive to keep us focused (OK so if we design a perfect world we get to live in it but so does everyone else) we do it because it has to be done.
Backstabing just divides the movement when we need to be strong, we should be fighting them (in a non violent way of course) not each other.
It seems to me that sometimes somepeople are much more concerned with whether or not they made a difference - than that a difference is made.
So for all those people -Its the struggle that counts NOT whether its your name on the flyers, and if you have a problem with that then you can just get the hell out of MY movement.... OH GOD Im at it too now, quick somebody stop me!
Joseph
Divide and argue!
22.01.2002 18:43
It is not a good idea to slag of other people, particularly people who are on the same side as you. You see the idea is that we change things (get rid of capitalism, treat the environment with repect and give full and enforced rights to every person on the globe (like the right to clean water food and shelter)) and in order to change things we have to stand together.
Ranged against us are forces of capitalism and everyone of the rich and powerful has a selfish interest in keeping things this way. On our side there is no selfish motive to keep us focused (OK so if we design a perfect world we get to live in it but so does everyone else) we do it because it has to be done.
Backstabing just divides the movement when we need to be strong, we should be fighting them (in a non violent way of course) not each other.
It seems to me that sometimes somepeople are much more concerned with whether or not they made a difference - than that a difference is made.
So for all those people -Its the struggle that counts NOT whether its your name on the flyers, and if you have a problem with that then you can just get the hell out of MY movement.... OH GOD Im at it too now, quick somebody stop me!
Joseph
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WHO CARE'S
23.01.2002 05:56
dale winton
e-mail: wintonupthearse@hotmail.com
Oh, please
23.01.2002 17:39
But seriously, Dale; what's your point? Or, perhaps more accurately- what's the point of you?
Julie Burchill