TRY NOT TO PUBLISH MEETINGS ON INDYMEDIA

Qwertministrator | 03.01.2002 23:30

PLEASE DON'T PUBLISH MEETINGS ON INDYMEDIA.........

......for the following reasons.

1) it clogs up the newswire thingy
2) it can give police/nazis etc. details of what you are doing and where you'll be if you're planning a direct action
3)this site doesn't just represent anarchists, it works for a variety of people.

Please try to keep meeting notices confined to e-mails and private discussion boards.

Thanks

Qwertministrator

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Disagree

04.01.2002 00:01

IMC UK has become the "movements" website
because it perhaps the only site people check up on
a daily basis and perhaps the best way of letting
people know how to make history and not just
spectate it.

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I said DA & meetings

04.01.2002 00:32

I said about direct action meetings, not movements or protests.
It is a good thing to put up news about a movement and protests on this site, but not information on meeting points (especially anarchist DA), as the info is easy for the dibble and like to find.

QWERTMINISTRATOR

Official policy?

04.01.2002 10:47

Is this official policy? It sounds like you're trying to impose rules. Are you an Indymedia bod?

Anti-IMC

no they aint

04.01.2002 11:04

no they aint an indy person apart from the fact everybody is an indy person
if it was an indy announcement it would have IMC-UK as author
every body is able to say what they want as long as it dosnt contravine the editoral guidelines see

http://uk.indymedia.org:8081/censor.php3
Z caty

zcat

,

04.01.2002 11:48

ooh...far be it for anyone to 'clog-up' indymedia with shit!
jesus fuckin christ...

For fucks sake.......

04.01.2002 12:53

.....i was not trying to impose rules....i was trying to help by not advising putting up posts about anarchist and Da meetings as the police (well our force anyway) have this thing where they are looking on sites such as this and singling out 'un-official'and 'un-authorised' protests and meetings...particually anarchist ones....i was only trying to help for fucks sake....

p.s i may be the enemy...but i'm sure willing to help...wink,wink

qwertministrator

yes, the problem of the authoritarian

04.01.2002 17:10

the authoritarian anarchists still persist. interestingly enough, a more relaxed approach to publishing criteira is not elevated into such a problem on most of the other sites, but rule- bound, conventional, britain seems to manifest itself even (perhaps especially) on the left, and it shows.

as i see it, (and its an old debate on these pages)there is no firm distinction between
(A) publicising a meeting, strike etc (if its a secret, dont publish it !)
(B) reporting the action as it happens and
(C) debating the results, building an analysis and arguing over the mishaps.

Why not reconfigure the page; have 3 columns, one for each of A, B, and C. You could also have book reviews Etc.

Acorn Tributor

you are all fascists!

04.01.2002 17:38

Happy New Year comrades!

Separate columns?? Publishing guidelines?? Can't you see this is EXACTLY THE SAME as what Stalin and Hitler did??!?

I refuse to follow anyone's rules ever, even voluntarily; which may be why the local kids won't let me play footie with them any more.

People shouldn't be allowed to make rules. It should be a rule.

a nonny mouse

RIGHT. In fact I noticed via my 'checker' ..

04.01.2002 20:39

WARNING: IN fact the author of the article is 100% right. I can assure that my website placed on indymedia has been visited since December 24, by 89 'Official' Visitors.
1. Echelon
2. Chancellor Office in Austria
3. 38 visitors 'where the origin could not be traced'
4. 2 Official services in the UK
5. Several Services in or from the USA
6. The German Secret Service, BKA and BND
7. and finally I got a message (email) offering me a meeting at the Embassy. Someone don't believe this, I am ready to send by normal mail a copy of the received fax.
I guarantee all above is true. So, in fact if someone , or group are planning 'meeting' he certainly should not publish it, anywhere on the Internet.
On surprise is the indyamedia in the Netherlands. They use a secure server (https) tu submit your article and I don't know how they do, but I never received anything (specific) from the Benelux or the Netherlands.
J. Charles
December 4, 2002

J. Charles
mail e-mail: cee@post.com
Homepage: http://www.e-u-r-o-p-e.org

Eh?

04.01.2002 23:04

So, from what you are saying, nobody should publicise meetings. How do you expect anyone to know about these meetings? What is the point in having a meeting if you are scared of people turning up? Should we start issuing secret anarchist ID cards or develop special handshakes or wear aprons so we know who is bona fide and who is a fascist/pig infiltrator? And what if someone strays from the anarchist party line? Throw them out of the meeting for being counter-revolutionary? And what is the exact point of having a demonstration or protest that no-one knows about?

This is ridiculous. If you want to develop a diverse, democratic and open anti-capitalist movement, you have to throw the doors open not meet in secret. This involves risks - police infiltration or fascist thuggery - but unless you are prepared to put up with risk, you'll get nowhere.

By the way, good luck with the young anarchist meeting! I hope your ideas and your numbers flourish - and don't let the fash or pigs scare you, because you are the future and they are the rot.

Anti-IMC

calendar

06.01.2002 00:01

From my point of view (working with the IMC UK collective) I'd prefer if meetings would be advertised on the calendar rather than the newswire. In a way the calendar is the "second part" someone suggested in this discussion.
What do people think about a separate section for analysis? Any group up for working on something like that?The "process" list (see left hand side, under "mailing lists" on the bottom) would be a good place for proposals, comments and suggestions.
Ionnek

Ionnek