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More on Tony and Cherie's reptilian stuff

dwight heet | 02.01.2002 22:39

Before recharging their batteries at the Egyptian energy centre, the Blairs did some serious ritual in the area of Mexican equivalence. I love New Age stuff. Unfortunateky it's being openly heisted once again for negative and totalitarian purposes. The Blairs fully understand and use this.Pity the Left cant get a grip.

dwight heet

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I'll stop screwing this up in a bit

02.01.2002 22:51

I'll stop screwing this up in a bit - application/rtf

Try this, or just go to Rense.com and scroll a little. I think it's interesting.

dh

You get a fucking grip!

02.01.2002 23:26

Dwight Heet, famous for your diehard defence of Osama Bin Laden, you have been rumbled!

You're a David Icke freak!

Listen you stupid cunt, the Left shouldn't touch this David Icke paranoid bullshit with a bargepole.

If anyone on Indymedia thinks that the path of Icke paranoia is the way forward then they should realise that the underlying source of a lot of this paranoid conspiracy stuff is the FAR RIGHT - not the Left.

Check his site :-

 http://www.davidicke.com/icke/headlines.shtml

god help the political Left if stoops this low!

Dwight Heet - FUCK OFF. Don't ever post your foul fascist bullshite on Indymedia again.

insider

Well thanx

03.01.2002 00:14

I love the challenge,(though in general terms I think I ought not to rise to it, but can't resist), and being of the masochist tendency, the abuse. Thankyou, insider for that and the Icke link. I'd like to be famous, but not for defending Bin Laden. He's the most repulsive ex or present stooge of the CIA and has been willing to fall in line with the big lie in the real videos. And inevitably wasn't caught as he made his way to China, with or without Intelligence assistance It's ok to accuse someone with no power, of being fascist and paranoid, but at least pay some regard to the fascist actions of our leaders, who have power, and push on regardless of anyone's opinion with the pulling of human rights and the imposition of the 'right wing conspiracy theorist's' agenda as it's played out in real life. A couple of years or so ago, I was a simple vaguely leftist green something or other, wondering where my Up Against the Wall Motherfucker attitudes of youth had gone. Events change things. Yeah, I'm paranoid and maybe you're just here to distort things.

dwight heet fascist

Paranoid Dwight Heet

03.01.2002 10:48

Well at least you admit you're paranoid.

Just to reinforce my point that Rense and Icke are pals read this:-

 http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/rense.html

Have you heard of the "Protocols of Zion"? - it's just up your fascist paranoid street.

insider

Worth a read

03.01.2002 11:32

David Icke's political ideas are very stimulating, often chilling and well worth reading. His problem is that he is incredibly gullible and regurgitates other people's ideas wholesale, without apparently realising the deeper implications. There's no way he's anti-Jewish, though he is anti-religion in general.
Some of his ideas are totally bizarre, though hilarious to read and providing light relief from the more chilling stuff about world control by a shadowy - non-Jewish - elite. The Queen is a blood-drinking reptilian Satanist, he says. My thoughts exactly.
Read what he says about the debt scam. It's chilling stuff. If there's any shadowy clique dominating the world, they're probably Anglo-Saxon with a few token minority frontmen.

Open mind

Another paranoid fascist speaking up...

03.01.2002 15:03

Wow, what level of abuse can come out of these fascist haters!! Makes one wonder who the nice guys really are. I have to admit to following David Icke's stuff and people that label his stuff "far right fasist bullshit" clearly haven't read any of it (I'm not far-right, I don't think I'm paranoid and I'm definitely not a fascist, but that won't buy any cred with the likes of Insider - I'm clearly labelled). "Foul fascist bullshit" - wow!! And there was me thinking fascists were the intolerant ones. Anyone who follows either Icke or Rense knows about the friendship - nothing new there.

Still, that's not the point of Dwight Heet's message - I find it deeply disturbing that Blair and Mrs are indulging in New Age rituals, call it reptilian, paranoia, conspiracy or whatever. Come on Dwight Heet, keep posting and don't let the likes of Insider and his foul-mouth get you down.

mucus64

You lot are scared to say things...

03.01.2002 16:30


i happen to think that most of the material on Icke's website is spot-on. The only problem is that he's as mad as a hatter! Fine, global elites, no worries there. shape shifters...leave it out then, mate.
There's a lot of good factual information/research on Icke's site, most of it posted by others and available on many other sites, that is there to be used.
If people don't know how to desifer the material, then go and learn.
And why is DH a fascist/anti-semite?
You 'lefties' are the dickheads who lack any REAL sense of history. You don't even challenge the language of the elites.
Why is it wrong to hate jews? I hate every fucker who believes in god. how's that! Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Shieks, Catholics (esp these fucks) Buddists...I hate the fuckin lot, me!!
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Honest John

Let me spell it out morons

03.01.2002 17:13

"Mucus64" says:- "I have to admit to following David Icke's stuff and people that label his stuff "far right fasist bullshit" clearly haven't read any of it"

Well I have read it, matey.

Once you strip away Icke's personal contribution re-alien reptilian shapeshifters you're left with the standard far-right conspiracy theories as peddled by the American far-right.

These theories unify UFO cover-ups, the "covert plan" for World Government/New World Order, the "cashless society", sympathy for the Waco extremists and in their more extreme forms major doses of anti-Semitism and the kind of support for Timothy Mcveigh style "resistance".

Have you heard of Lyndon Larouche? David Shippers?

These guys have NOTHING TO DO with the political left.

Am I wrong or am I right?

If you scratch the surface of the BNP and Le Pen's French National Front you will find the same underlying themes.

You will note that Rense's site has a proponderance of posts about conspiracies stemming from Israel/Mossad.

You will no doubt have heard the foul antisemitic lie that Sept 11th was a Mossad operation and that all the Jewish workers at the WTC were warned to take the day off work. This sad lie is unfortunately believed by half the Muslim world. Where do you think it came from? The SAME far-right sources.

You will note that Icke, while not promoting this lie, has never posted a rebuttal.

This is only short step away from full-on Holocaust denial. Are you now going to argue that David Irving is right?

So who's paranoid now?

This is what I mean by "fascist bullshite".

Please steer well away from it - it is TOXIC.

Do I make myself clear?

insider

Lizards or Not........

03.01.2002 19:43

David Icke's website includes contributions from many writers who expose the 'Bilderberg's' agenda for a Totalitarian New World Order, which is presently unfolding. You can't pigeon-hole everyone into your narrow 'Left' or 'Right' Wing. Truth is truth.

Centred

What truth?

03.01.2002 20:58

To centred:-

I do not seek to pigeonhole.

It is often said that the political spectrum is in fact a circle and that the extremes of left and right eventually coalesce.

This was evident in the naming of the Nazi movement - combining Nationalism (left) with Socialism (right).

Fascism is historically based on conspiracy theories, as you know.

It's up to YOU to offer convincing proof that the kind of conspiracy theories (Bilderberg/NWO etc) that underly Icke's nauseous bullshite are 100% different to the theories of global Jewish domination that underpinned Nazism.

I do not believe you are able to do this.

Therefore you are in grave danger unwittingly embracing fascism.

Think about it.

Icke's full of shit.

insider

Embracing fascism

03.01.2002 22:13

You see, I don't know what all this shouting about conspiracy theorist fascists is about. Whether me, Icke or Rense is a fascist is irrelevant.Doesn't matter what they brand themselves - Blair,Blunkett, Short, Bush, Ashcroft and all Daddy's cronies, and similar governments throughout a large part of the world, including disgraceful Grunen are promoting genocidal policies,looking to mash up poor nations, seeking world war, practising trauma-based mass mind control (9-11 and all its sequelae),seeking centralised financial control,passing and implementing Nazi-style laws regarding freedom of expression and incarceration of dissidents,lying every time they open their mouths - they're fascists pure and simple. And the world order being promulgated is fascism. Every move they make should be examined. I put that piece up in the first place because it corresponds just a little to the furthest out ideas of Icke et al. We know that a lot of this stuff comes from the non-establishment right. Time to take ownership of ideas ideas which are borne out in burgeoning reality.

Dwight Heet

re Embracing Fascism

04.01.2002 14:22

Dwight Heet - at least you have admitted that the source of a lot of your paranoid political contortions is the "non-establishment" right. This was my essential accusation and you have pleaded "guilty". Indeed you further admit tthat, for you, these ideas as "borne out of burgeoning reality".

The question I have for you is this:- If as you say the global political establishment (including your pet-hate Joshka Fischer) are the "Fascists" then what does that make the so called "non-establishment" right?

Are you seriously claiming that these extremist far-right groups, that include the Aryan nations militias that supported Timothy Mcveigh and the Waco bunch, and large numbers of groups that rival OBL in their hatred for Jews, are NOT Fascists?

Straight answers please.

insider

No way

05.01.2002 00:41

Somehow, insider, you make me feel like I'm involved in some mutual masturbation in even answering you. However, sucker that I am - yes - rebel fascists with no power, who produce evidence of a central government direction that corresponds - I'll listen - I don't have to accept their philosophy wholesale. Maybe those informants running from their manipulation by weird-stuff intelligence agency controllers. wont turn to materialistic left organistions, who believe in SMART goals and all that measurable stuff, but to apocalyptically awaiting rightists. However bad the behaviour of Koresh and the WACO leaders, the response of the state and its immolation of the men women and children there was appalling.Much worse than that applied to Wilhelm Reich a couple of decades earlier. By the way, I don't hate Fischer, but hate the way an erstwhile revolutionary and present so-called green can support a fascist war. Such is the state of governance in this green and pleasant world.

dwight

Not a straight answer

05.01.2002 03:00

Your lack of a straight answer indicates that you lack true confidence in your warped opinions.

You are a naive seeker - you do not have real knowlege.

Like a pathetic sorcerers apprentice you have blundered your way into a situation where you are a public apologist for the Jew hating extreme right.

Quite a journey for someone who claims that "a couple of years or so ago, I was a simple vaguely leftist green something or other". Do you understand the concept of karma?

You speak often of "weird-stuff intelligence agency controllers" and mind-control. Have you ever asked yourself if perhaps you yourself are being "controlled"? And by who?

Where did your ideas stem from - what led you into your absurd amateur defence of pure evil?

Does the concept of demonic posession ever occur to you? Are you really sure you understand the energies you are opening yourself up to?

I do not seek any further replies from you on this topic.

May I just repeat one more time that the Icke-oid conspiracy theories that have infected you on a deep level are fundamentally wrong and you are exposing yourself to danger.

Love and Peace

insider

i'll have the last word anyway

05.01.2002 22:54

I'll take my own chances with my own karma thankyou. Although you have a very authoritarian character, I appreciate your warnings. I'm sure we'll collide again.

dwight