Coming from Wales, UK, I am a bit sceptical of
these 'nationalist' movements, as Karl Marx says,
"The Working class has no country", I think it is
more important to devote our energies to building
a better world than wasting time in building independent
nations in capitalist countries.
For instance in Wales a miner who has been sacked because
of privatisation has more in common with striking workers
in South Africa or Argentina than with the ruling class
of Britain, as the anarchists say: "why replace one boss
with another", an independent Wales would still be
a capitalist country, & while devolution has brought
some minor reforms, full independence would have no
fundamental effect on the issues that made me politically
active - the system that breed wars, that in an age of
post-scarcity & superabundance breeds poverty.
It distresses me that many of my friends in Wales support
parties like Plaid Cymru, who talk left rhetoric, but who
if they ever got into power would full into line with capitalism (in the manner of "new" labour).
Instead of building movements around ideas of "state", or
"nation", we should be building movements based around building a better future for everyone, the capitalists organise internationally, so why don't we? Why isolate our movement with artificial boundaries,
Americans are in the heart of the beast, the most powerful, imperialist capitalist country that the world has ever seen, why go off on some divisive utopian track? Why not challenge the state head-on - Build the anti-war movement!
Build the anti-capitalist movement! Build the unions! Build
the workers organisations! Build ecological and environmental organisations! And lets hope we can one day
see workers councils in the USA. So it's boo to schemes
that are inherently reformist! And a big hooray for international revolutionary socialism, that strives to
abolish poverty absolutely, inequality etc.
ANOTHER WORLD IS POSSIBLE!

Speaking of Anarchists and new states with better systems, surely the Anarchist revolution would have to happen worldwide within a relatively short space of time, as an anarchist 'state', having no formal mechanisms of defence, would present an inviting target for neighbouring states.

Roll on the CNP, that's all I can say. The USA is too big and needs to be broken up into as many pieces as possible, and as a Socialist Republican (also from Wales, I might add to the previous poster) I don't see that it's incompatible with the emancipation of the working class (whatever that is).

As to Luke the Drifter's posting, you only have to look at so-called "Socialist" parties in Wales like the SP and the SWP to see that they're not remotely Socialist and that in fact they're basically centralist and Authoritarian - they dance to the full-timer's tune and drop local campaigns at the drop of a hat, and they're basically run from London - which is where again?

As to the miners of Wales, the only deep mine left in South Wales is Tower colliery, it's not state socialist and flies a Welsh flag, not a British one, and the early history of the mining communities of South Wales saw miners fighting to create an independent Socialist Republic in South Wales. Don't know much about Welsh WORKING CLASS history do you, Luke?