Todays italian news papers confirm this story.
A balistix expert has stated that the two bullets
found (in Carlo's body) were fired from different weapons.

But these doesn't tally with the fact that the other cops
in the land rover apparently had all their bullets, and the
cop that is charged with shooting Carlo had two missing.
Another thing to bear in mind is that Italian inquiries/trials are often so riddled with red herrings that in the end it is impossible to understand fact from fiction and the whole thing turns into a farce.
It is hard to see wether this is a positive developement for those of us who would like to see a just out come to the trial. The defence might not be able to use legitimate defence, but they could also say that some one unknown killed carlo, the whole trial would become something akin to an Agatha Christie book.

I am too tight to buy a newspaper and don't like to encourage them, I read the one's in the bar.

I hope that justice will be done but I doubt it.

pete

Whenever someone gets killed, there needs to be an investigation. Whenever the police kill, this is especially important. However, my understanding of the situation here is that Guiliani was part of a large mob of people attacking a police car with two (?) occupants. The mob were using large bits of wood, smaller sticks, and missiles like stones and bricks. The windows of the car had already been smashed. The car couldn't drive away because it was trapped against a wall and surrounded by the mob.

Now imagine you are one of those policemen in the car. This might be difficult, but try, because that is what a jury would be asked to imagine. Do you think, "Hey, just another day's work, they'll soon get bored and go away." ? Or do you think, "Shit, these guys really want to kill us!" ? You might even want to imagine that you, as that policeman, actually support the aims of the protest - though I'm fairly sure the ones in question didn't. But it's unlikely to change your view much and make you less scared of a large, armed, violent mob attacking you.

So the police shot and killed one of the attacking mob, and the others ran away. It doesn't seem that important to me which of them shot, or whether it was both, or how many shots they fired. I don't think it's cool that the guy died. He didn't deserve it. But at the same time, I'm quite sure that the police would have suffered serious injury, or even been killed, if they hadn't acted that way. There *is* such a thing as legitimate self defence, even for the police. If my understanding of this situation is correct and this is the evidence, no court on earth would convict the police for this killing, and neither would I. If the facts turn out to be different, I'm quite prepared to change my mind.

Justice, as I see it, should apply to everyone, including the police. If that was two protesters in the car, and a mob of police was attacking it, and you were one of the protesters and by some bizarre chance happened to have a gun, what would you have done?

However, I can see absolutely no justification for the attack on the Genoa Social Forum at the school, in which many people were beaten within an inch of their lives. If my understanding of that incident is right, those police and their commanders should be looking at very long sentences for attempted murder.

'I've got a big problem with capitalists' On off-days-...............

not quite as protestix puts it, the official reason the land rover was there is that it got lost !!!
this excuse is used repeatedly, the real reason is that the cops drove into the crowd at speed, this scenario was repeated on at least two other occasions, where the vehicles also stalled, one ended up getting burnt.
Another theory is that a cop stamding a few yards away fired one of the shots tat hit Carlo, this theory has now come back into the running, and would rule out legitamate self defence. Another point of interest is why didn't the platoon of cops standind about ten yards from the land rover fire any tear gas, they fired it at the old grannies in the pacifist pink march and used it liberally throughout the G8 festivities against un armed and peacefull protesters, but when two of their colleauges were in the shit they did nothing, very strange ??
these questions and many others are being asked in italy all the time ....

Well obviously the Genoa cops were out to cause as much trouble and provoke as many people as possible. That's precisely why protesters shouldn't go about the place armed and smashing things (and people) up. So when something really serious like this incident happens, the cops have no real chance of getting away with a self-defence defence. Hopefully the enquiry will bring up lots of evidence about what happened in this incident and the wider context of the Genoa situation. But I see no chance of any cops getting convicted.