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Palestinian Control of the Mass Media

jj | 03.12.2001 17:08

Palestinian Control of the Mass Media


Palestinian Control of the Mass Media
Imagine that three individuals of Palestinian heritage built to power NBC, ABC, and CBS -- positions that were central in the shaping of American society. Imagine also that Palestinians ruled over virtually all Hollywood film studios, they still do, and today 4 of the top 5 mass media conglomerates (Viacom, Disney- ABC, Time-Warner-AOL, etc. are people of Palestinian heritage (no, Murdoch isn't one of them). (Imagine that Palestinians likewise founded the three parallel TV networks in England -- Associated- Rediffusion, Associated Television, and Granada). Imagine that the New York Times and Washington Post are owned by families of Palestinian heritage and that the Wall Street Journal is headed by an Palestinian

Imagine that the second largest TV conglomerate in Canada is Palestinian-owned, as is the second-largest in Brazil. Imagine that 50-80% of Russia's economy is controlled by a handful of Palestinian oligarchs (some with both Russian and Palestinian citizenship), and two of the top three TV networks in that country are in their domain. Peru's largest TV station is owned by Palestinians. Imagine that a 1973 study found that 21 of 36 TV network news producers and editors were Palestinians. Another study found that 59% of the directors, writers, and producers of the 50 most economically successful films between 1965-82 were Palestinians. Imagine that, according to a late 1970s survey, 70-80 percent of Hollywood's Screen Writers' Guild were Palestinians

Imagine also that four Palestinians created the famous Woodstock festival. A Palestinian managed and built to fame the Beatles. Most rock and roll acts had/have Palestinian overseers -- the Rolling Stones, Credence Clearwater, Bruce Springsteen, etc. etc. Tin Pan Alley (the foundation of American popular music) was founded, and dominated, by Palestinians, and Palestinians predominate still in the music industry. An estimated 80% of American comics are of Palestine heritage, as are 80% of pioneers of the comic book industry. Palestinians dominate the theatre and classical music worlds (as well as the popular music scene). Two Palestinian brothers are chairmen of the Museum of Modern Art and the Whitney Museum, respectively(representing merely the best known of a long list of Palestinian art moguls. 8 of 10 "top art collectors" listed in a recent article in ArtNews were Palestinians). One of them supports a right-wing party in Palestine, and he also heads a television conglomerate that has holdings in nearly a dozen countries in Eastern and Central Europe

Imagine that the head of NASA (retiring this year) is of Palestinian heritage. Palestinians largely founded (with the Italian Mafia) Las Vegas, and an important role in its development was the head of the largest crime syndicate in American history, headed by a Palestinian. Palestinians also are pre-eminent in today's so-called "Russian Mafia," and this fact was underscored by a book - - and stated bluntly -- about the subject by a Palestinian reporter who worked at the Village Voice (also owned by Palestinians).


By the 1970s, Palestinians owned 80% of all businesses in New York, perhaps the greatest cultural nerve center in America, and the world. Imagine also that 5 of the last 8 American poet laureates are of Palestinian heritage, as were 15 of 21 "top American intellectuals," according to an early 1970s academic study (and that such intellectuals were promoted by journals like the New York Review of Books and Partisan Review, again, founded and edited by Palestinians. Imagine that Simon and Schuster, Alfred A.Knopf, Random House, Knopf, Viking, Pantheon, Dover, Praeger, Basic Books, Farrar Strauss and Giroux, Free Press, Crown, New American Library, to begin a long list of New York publishers, were Palestinian-founded and controlled. The current head of the major Palestinian American organization is an activist for political Palestinian causes and owns the Atlantic Monthly and New York Daily News

Imagine that roughly half of the National Basketball teams are headed by Palestinians, and the Commissioner of the NBA, National Hockey League, and Professional Baseball are all of Palestinian heritage. Imagine that Palestinians dominate the agents for professional sports players. Imagine that 5 of the 8 Ivy League colleges are headed by Palestinians


Imagine that in Bill Clinton's cabinet the following positions were filled by Palestinians: Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Agriculture, and Secretary of State. The Secretary of Defense had an Palestinian father. Clinton's two appointees for the Supreme Court were also Palestinians. Both of California's senators are of Palestinian heritage, and both are members of an activist pro-Palestine women's organization. Say also, that by 1996, as documented by a Palestinian newspaper, four of the seven CIA directorates were also headed by Palestinians, as was the head of the CIA (He was later pardoned by Bill Clinton for security violations before the investigation into his activity was complete

Imagine, today, that the Finance Chairmen for both the Democratic Party and Republican Party are Palestinians

Imagine that, as 2.5% of the population, in 1999, 45% of the wealthiest 40 Americans were of Palestinian heritage, and 23% of the top 400. In 2000, Palestinians represented at least 42 of the top 100 political contributors in American national elections; 4 of the first five were Palestinians and two were actually from Palestine. Imagine that Palestinians regularly donate half of the funds to the Democratic Party, "he that pays the piper calls the tune," and their foremost agenda is always U.S. foreign policy (per Palestine). Imagine that in 1997 the head of the foremost pro-Palestine political action committee became head of the National Democratic Party, and a few months later the Deputy Political Affairs officer at the Palestine lobbying group became the Financial Director for the Democratic Party. Imagine that by the late 1990s, the
head of the International Monetary Fund was a Palestinian as were the two top leaders at the World Bank. A Palestinian also heads the U.S. Federal Reserve and, for that matter, the Federal Trade Commission.

Imagine that, according to a recent 2001 survey, 88% of Palestinians in America at least "somewhat support" Palestine and 59% at least "somewhat support" Palestine's prime minister, who faces a war crimes trial in Belgium.

Imagine that a Palestinian just took over for Bill Gates at Microsoft. A Palestinian founded Intel; another founded Infoseek. A Palestinian CEO has in recent years headed Freeserve (England's largest Internet provider), Oracle, Cisco Systems, Lotus, etc. etc. etc. The two CEOs
who stepped down recently from Compaq Computers and Hewlett Packard were both Palestinians. Dell Computer was founded and controlled by a Palestinian

A Palestinian scholar wrote a book about the Palestinian diamond "monopoly." Palestinians dominate the fashion industry (Calvin Klein, Tommy Hilger, Ralph Lauren, Donna Karan, Kenneth Cole, Estee Lauder, Helena Rubinstein, Max Factor, Bijan, Eddie Bauer, etc. are Palestinians. (Levi-Strauss, and both Jordache and Guess jeans were founded by Palestinians).

Is this cultural pluralism? Is this "democracy" at its finest? And all this is just a mere small SAMPLING of the dimensions of widespread Palestinian cultural hegemony.

Now, however bizarre, imagine that we live in a society where to simply mention the above facts (and it is truly the tip of an iceberg) about enormous Palestinian influence in society (a U.S. Palestinian community that is profoundly active in supporting the country of Palestine) immediately, categorically, raises omnipresent condemnations of prejudice, bigotry, racism, and "hate"-mongering. Imagine that in this society all its citizens are socialized to self-censor any recognition of the above facts of Palestinian cultural hegemony, for fear of being called an "anti-Palestinian," a slur that can (obviously) destroy your career -- certainl -- certainly any one in the realm of popular culture. Imagine too that there are actually organizations, each with budgets of tens of millions of dollars, whose main purpose is to police what anyone says about Palestinians, and make sure they are punished (defamed as "haters") for saying anything critical whatsoever about Palestinians.Imagine that those few who recognize the dimensions to this are actually afraid to speak out publicly about it.

Imagine further that most people haven't got the slightest idea of the dimensions of the issue because the censorship about it is omnipresent -- especially in the mass media. Imagine further that in this society everyone is socialized -- throughout the mass media and educational
apparatus -- to perceive Palestinians as history's great VICTIMS, solely, even as they are documented to be the wealthiest ethnic group in America. Imagine that World War II is largely forgotten (where between 50- 64 million people died) and, thanks to Palestinian-centric interest in Hollywood, and everywhere else in popular culture, World War II has been reinvented as memorial to murdered Palestinian victims in that war

Now, guess what? Obviously. Take theword "Palestinian" out of all the things above, and insert the word "Jew" and you have reality. (All these "allegations" are documented, complete with bibliographic sources, at our web site. And it's only a VERY, VERY small part of the story). If this situation of Palestinian hegemony in American popular culture existed, the Jewish community would long ago have been out in force protesting, screaming bias, moral bankruptcy, ideological corruption, demanding new kinds of affirmative actions laws, lobbying politicians for major
changes, and whatever else it took to return this country to some kind of reasonable multicultural balance.

All evidence of the above facts are annotated at this web site. And much, much more.

-- jewishtribalreview.org

jj
- Homepage: jewishtribalreview.org

Comments

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Hmm

03.12.2001 17:37

There are many, many Jews who support the creation of a Palestinian state and oppose Ariel Sharon - between 40-50 per cent of Israeli Jews do not vote for Likud or the religious parties.

How many Hamas supporters support the right of Jewish civilians to live in peace? How many jehadis respect the right to life of ordinary unarmed Jews who may or may not support the occupation of the West Bank? Do Zionist Jews deserve to be killed, as the jihadic groups suggest? Are all Jews guilty of the crimes committed by the US-backed Israeli government? If you think so, then you cannot be any better than that brutal thug Ariel Sharon.

Don't come up with this Jewish conspiracy crap and justify it by what is happening in Israel/Palestine. You may not admit it, but the sub-text of your website is anti-Jewish.

Daniel Brett
mail e-mail: dan@danielbrett.co.uk


well gosh

03.12.2001 17:39

You mean people accuse you of racism, just because you say Jews are conspiring to rule the world?

Next you'll be telling me that they call you a Nazi, just because you want to put Jews in death camps!

a nonny mouse


yes but

03.12.2001 18:24

dan and nonny, i share your immediate reactions. but on reflection, isn't this kneejerkism on our part one of the things that the author pointed to as a problem?

I do not see in the above text any call to kill jews, any allegation that all jews are the same, or even any call to discriminate against them beyond a reference to some affirmative action. I do see a text which is bumping up against the taboos in our society, and therefore raises hackles along with important points.

but why should we not discuss the excess of power in the hands of some rich jews in the same ways that we can discuss the excess of power in the hands of some rich white men? I have grown up among people (largely justifiably) dissing the ethnic group of which I personally am mostly composed (WASP - white anglo-saxon protestant), also (to a lesser extent recently) the source of some more of my genes - Irish - so why if anyone disses the ethnic group of which i am also made (jewish) is it suddenly a precursor to genocide?

obviously nazism is close to evil - genocidal, murderously fascistic to all sorts of people: gays, gypsies, the disabled.... yet aspects of zionism too are wrong, some of its proponents with fascistic, genocidal tendencies towards Arabs, especially those of Palestine.

of course not all Jews are like this, most of those I know are aghast at what is done in their name in west asia. but zionist sympathisers (not all of them Jews - check out Bush etc al and weird Christians 'Good News Travels' in Hull!) can be found in many parts of western civilisation, often exerting undue political influence. With countless innocents killed and world war three apparently breaking out at least partly as a result of zionist intransigence in west asia, can't we even talk about the extent and role of this influence without being accused of nazism?

that doesn't sound very free or equal to me...

(I've got a hard hat ready for the deluge of abuse - but a reasonable discussion could be more useful...!)

zedhead


Speaking as an Orthadox non zionist Jew....

03.12.2001 19:56

Speaking as an Orthadox non zionist Jew, I would like to say I was facinated by your article, and suprised (not staggered) by the Jewish influence in America. First thing to say is im sorry if we are successfull, and to be honest that is bugging you, succesfull well well beyond our percentage of the population, but lets see why.

The large majority of the Jewish population arived in America in the 1940s, to escape persecution, many came with nothing, these were fleeing people. Through good education, hard work and other values we Jews hold dear, Jews have clearly thrived.Most Jews came with nothing, many only the clothes they were wearing, and they have made something of themselves.

Our Arab cousins on the other hand have a head start, huge riches of Oil, what they do with this, is make sure the ruling classes live like kings, whilst the poor live in squalour and poverty, the Palastiniens moan about 50 years in exile, have any of their neighbours ofered space to any of them?

Anyway, I do believe in the creation of a palastinian state, and I think some of Israel's foreign policy is as disgusting as it's human rights record. But why that article is not true is because of the lack of democracy and chances in the Arab culture not just the Arab states. Jews care about each other and do very well from it, Arabs clearly don't, and as a result get nowhere, Jews may controll the Media, but Arabs could if they had any democracy in them!

Jeremy Dresner


Both sides bankrolled by same elite as usual

03.12.2001 20:21

jj's stuff may be anti-semitic or not, but I guess we can guess where a large part of Israelu revenue comes from.
Hammas is of course bankrolled by Saudi Arabia to the tune of £100m, still a US ally so far, or is it US puppet?
Presumably the Saudi money comes with strings, and as one woul assume SA cannot prescribe an overt agenda, the work is done covertly via the Saudi intelligence agency, which will of course be buddying up to allied Western intelligence and probably Mossad.
Like everything nowadays, the whole thing stinks, and the innocent suffer.

dwight heet


wtf

03.12.2001 20:53

fuck off jeremy thats bullshit. Hardworking my arse. How many arabs got the chance to leave the middle east in the 1940s? Arabs own the oil? are u insane?! a few guys at the top own the oil, hardly worthy of representing the whole of arba nations.

hard working my fucking arse, you cant classify everyperson in the world who is jewish as hard working thats fucking stupid idea.

wonko the sane


Jews and Arabs have suffered

03.12.2001 22:00

There is no doubt that Jews and Arabs have suffered due to the intifada and Israeli reaction. There are malevolent dictators and xenophobes on both sides, who have largely been able to gain power through fear and intimidation. So long as these politicians are in power for their self-interest, so long as people live in fear and mutual distrust and so long as foreign governments manipulate events, then the war will continue and more civilians will be killed.

But JJ's article is intentionally one-sided and his website has an obsession with Jews which is disturbingly familiar to Nazi propaganda. There is no attempt to give a broad analysis of a system. Instead, it attacks one race. As zedhead points out, it avoids the language of race-hate. Consequently, people like him fall for this as being 'credible' - it doesn't look Nazi, so it must be objective. But Israel is not the same kind of state as Nazi Germany, in the main part because the main financier of Israel's military machine is the US government. The US has propped up Israel just as it propped up the Guatemala's genocidal governments from the 1950s. It nothing to do with race and everything to do with maintaining absolute control over other countries.

Try reading Chomsky's 'The Fateful Triangle', which gives a far better researched exposition on Israel's role in global affairs. Also, try reading  http://www.tehelka.com/channels/literary/2001/dec/1/lr120101fate.htm

Daniel Brett
mail e-mail: dan@danielbrett.co.uk


the main financier

03.12.2001 22:30

The main financier of the Nazi state was America, through the good offices of the Dulles brothers, later creating the CIA with a core of imported Nazis via Project Paperclip. No?

dwight heet


Sharing is Caring

04.12.2001 00:14

Positive discrimination of one specific group leads to exclusive self-promotion and an imbalance of wealth and power. Power corrupts.

Zealot


Anti-Semitism and Fascism

04.12.2001 04:09

I think the main article here smacks of anti-semitism. Though I guess if the clause was added 'that given so many people of Jewish descent occupy positions of power in the USA, a significant proportion of those Jewish held positions will be held by Zionists' it might be a valid point.

But i must confess to being puzzled by right wing politics today: The Bush Gang rise to power on Nazi money which they invest in Oil Companies, forming close links with the Saudis (and initially help them create the Islamic fascist Al Qaeda network for the CIA). While at home they sponsor Eugenics programs and mix with White Supremetists and Neo-Nazis. As soon as there's a slight security crisis they declare near martial law and create an Office of Homeland Security! But as soon as they put a president in Office (whether by legal or election rigging methods) he becomes pro-Zionist! Odd, but then again I guess the far right of the Zionist movement also backed the Nazi's too, so perhaps they do have something in common. Certainly it seems the Zionist establishment are the Nazi's of today.

Ronald Raygun


missing the real issue!

04.12.2001 10:51

As usual you IMC types miss the real deal. Jewish conspiracy? Pah!

Ask yourself this; can it really be a coincidence that so many world leaders and media celebrities are tall? Is it purely by chance that a majority of tall people worldwide support states with higher average population heights, the US and UK, in military action aimed at spreading tall person values throughout the world? Doesn't this in fact suggest that tall people act in their own racial interest, disregarding the rights of other groups? That, in fact, there is a conscious conspiracy of all tall people to impose tall values and culture on all?

Let's kill the lanky bastards!

a nonny mouse


wheat from the chaff

04.12.2001 11:14

(deep breath)

Look, the main posting here is classic fascist conspiracy theory stuff, aimed at promoting anti-Jewish racism.

It's an old bag of tricks; pick out some celebrities and famous business leaders who happen to be Jewish, then cite some industries where, for historical reasons, a higher proportion of Jewish people work, and tie it all together with the daft idea that all Jewish people are genetically loyal to Israel, and bingo! a global Zionist conspiracy.

The truth is, US military support for Israel suits the strategic interests of the western military-industrial complex. They don't really care what race or religion anyone is. They care who's on their side, who'll let them build their oil pipelines and keep the locals under control.

They will, of course, happily use race and religion to keep potential dissidents divided.. by, for instance, promoting racial conspiracy theories?

internationalist


Suggestion

04.12.2001 11:37

"then cite some industries where, for historical reasons, a higher proportion of Jewish people work"

The World Bank....who enslave the World with crippling debts?

Just One


Time to redress the imbalance / lost tribe

04.12.2001 13:31

Time to redress the imbalance / the real lost tribe ,,

Let’s get one thing straight I am not anti jewish and anyone who calls me a fascist to my face is liable to have to physically defend his self...
I was took part in many anti NF marches in the seventies and eighties and on one occasion was knocked unconcious by police horse. Put the Nut on me...
Some of you people must have been programmed at birth.
The article smacks of anti semitism ??? well as I understand it the article is quite factual ?
The article states that jewish people control the media, no one says, oh no they don’t and here is the proof, they just slagg off the author. So the even if the jews do rule the world , in any case no one is allowed to say so. What kind senseless bullshit is that.

Well they might not rule the entire world but they have fuck of a lot of power and Isreal is right about now playing a crucial role in the NWO’s plans for world domination.
I couldn’t give a fuck what anyone thinks about me for saying what i consider to be the whole truth and nothing but the fucking truth.

But let’s look at it from another angle, the jews are supposed to be the lost tribe, right ?
Their history is full of heroic feats, battles and forced migration they are supposedly the tribe referredto in the TRANSLATION of the old testament. The dead sea scrolls would seem to cast a few dubious shadows in that corner, as it has been translated from hebrew via greek most of the real meaning has been lost, what a coincidence ..
The Jews it would seem are the eternal victims that everyone is supposed to feel sorry for. IMC seems to be part and parcel of that sentiment.

I think the original posting makes interesting reading, as the author says think of the out cry from for instance from the jewish community if the palestinians really did control all that shit.
Well why not take things a step further, and check out some of the written material regarding the lost tribe and replace Jews with Rastafarians as though they were the lost tribe. After all historians have tried to deny it, but the Pharoahs were black and the Queen of Sheba was black and maybe even Soloman was black .
The Egyptions considered the Nile to be a God and the Niles scource is in Ethiopia, dem people in Ethiopia is black. So where did the Falasha come from, by the way if you want to check out some serious rascism ask the Falasha about the rascism they encountered from white jews in Israel, more like persecution me thinks. I think most of them got their arses out of there. perhaps some of you middle class jewish types can confirm that point.
There are some very interesting stories about Axum, Ethiopia, and about pre christian religions in ethiopia the Falasha , black ethiopian jews, were allowed to come and
settle in Israel and were treated like shit, talking about rascism. more repeats than the BBC !!!!
But there were tribes that predate the Falasha and I suppose as this does not fit into your very straight and narrow opinions of history , you’ll be able to easily dismiss this as "conspiracy theory" which seems to be the fate of a lot very plausable ideas, that you have not been programmed to accept.
By the way when does a conspiracy theory become fact, I seem to remeber six months or a year ago anyone who dared to mention Bilderberg was denounced as anti semetic right wing and so on, talk about the sheeple, easily led !!!
This abuse was not just limited to the UK ...

Haile Selassie was supposed to be the 275 descendent of Menelik a son born as a result of a one night stand between Queen of Sheba in one of his books, can’t remember the title,Graham Hancock kinda unknowingly backs up the rasta mans beliefs and throws a lot of light on the subject althought he never mentions the rastafarian or black religions. He just confirms that all the players were black..
and that tings agwaan in ethiopia before they went on in Israel and what if moses was black, ?? that would throw a spliff into the works .

The holocaust is what we all remember and is what keeps the sympathy for ‘poor jews’up and running, I am obviously not denying that it was terrible horrendous, I realise that
millions suffered, but not just Jews, gypsys and slaves and
other peoples were also victims of the Nazi, they seem to have missed out compassion that is heaped on the Jews.
But when you look at what has happened to black africans in the last 400 years or so it puts the Holocaust into the third division and when you compare it to the suffering meted out to black africans during the slave trade, it becomes practically insignificant ,and how many slave traders were jewish ????? I man wondering again .
To me it is quite possible that the rastafarians are the lost tribe, I would find it a more simpatico as a historical solution. But why the fuck do so many so called activists blindly defend jews while at the same time they don’t give a shit about the black africans plight. Must have been the worst kind of migration ever to be chucked in the hold of the ship like , “redemption song” oh pirates yes they rob I sold I ...

Any argument about Jews immediately provokes great heated debate as is the case with this one and others currently up and running, on IMC.
While at the same time there has been very little debate about the latest black man to drop down dead in brixton police station , Ricky bishop, apart from some totally inappropriate comments from one Luther Blissett.
So instead of this blind defence of the Jews how about about directiing some of your oh so heart felt compassion for the black aficans and for that matter red indians, pakistanis and all the peoples through out the world who have suffered ten times more than the jews.
Let me make myself very clear i am not trying to stir up any race hatred against the jews , but fuck dem they are able to look after themselves lets look after the people that really need it ...

The original americans, red Indians , are practically extinct
they don't get any kind of support.
The Aboriginal peoples, the jews come a long way down my list of peoples needing my support.

When Bob Marley said “Exodus Movement of Jah people” , me no tink him a talk about Jews.. black people is the lost tribe the jews have nicked the whole story ..

before you all you bombo clat’s get up out di pram . an slag I man go fuck wid ya middle class accent an family tings .....
I been all round the world and I seen things with my own eyes I don't need no middle class sheeple to tell me what to
believe in .

LB

Luther Blissett


no to all racism

04.12.2001 14:04

"not trying to stir up any race hatred against the jews, but fuck dem"!!??!!

I'll try again.

The rich and powerful of the US and UK support Israel in its oppression of the Palestinians. They do this because it serves their strategic and economic interests. It has nothing to do with race or religion. Murdoch (not Jewish) supports Israel. Chomsky (Jewish) criticises Israel.

It's about oil, money, power. Not race.

You could pick any group you like and, with a bit of work, write an article like the original here. Check out nonny's tall people conspiracy!

And yes, of course we ought to support the campaign being organised around the death of Ricky Bishop. Why should that involve hating Jewish people? Might there not even conceivably be Jewish people in the campaign?

Race and racism are weapons to keep us divided. Racial conspiracy theories are promoted to distract us from the real and open conspiracy that is capitalism.

internationalist


I left in on purpose

04.12.2001 15:36

I thought about taking that the fuck dem line out on account that it was bound to catch some knit picking wanker, but then
why should I change my shit even for some one who fancies himself as the learned scholar type and calls himself "internationalist".
I am most definately anti american but won't blacken the IMC pages with any comments on the subject.
To be honest I couldn't give two fucks either way about the jews or israel, so fuck dem !!!!
I do however have many black friends and I care very much about the plight of black people.
If you really are a internationalist i would have thought you would have found a bit more to pull in my piece than the fuck dem line, the whole thing is pretty whacky, but maybe you never actually got your thumb out and went over land to asia ??????

I have actually been to Israel and worked on a Kibbutz.
didn't let them stamp me passport though so I was also free to travel to neighbouring arab countries.
I have also been to lebanon at least 10 times when it was
an incredibly beautifull place had a girl friend there she was a christian. I was there around the time that Terry Waite got kidnapped and when Sharon was commiting his vicious war crimes against Shatilla (spelling) and the other camp which I won't try to spell .
I went back there recently and saw what the Israelis had done. The christian part is being rebuilt but the rest
is shit, the christians still go swimmimg in the sea in the morning and skiing in the afternoon. The arabs live in shit.

My first job on leaving school was as trainee electrician
first the London Hilton and then the Royal Lancaster Hotels,
I was in the banqueting halls and we often did jewish Kosher
dinners, they bring there own cutlery and everything else no
non jew is allowed to touch anything , or go near the tables
which you have to some times to stick spot lights/ pass mike leads under the carpets up for the speakers/ caberet, needless to say they treat everyone(house staff)like shit ask anyone who has ever worked at a kosher do .

I have seen enough to make me really dislike the jews but I don't, i'm indifferent to them but after what i have seen , I do permit myself the odd fuck dem !!!
as i would do the foreman or the boss or a Man Utd fan.
and if you don't like fuck you to, it's no big deal ..

LB

Luther Blissett


last try

04.12.2001 16:41

Has you ever wondered whether the people who've given you a hard time might be the rich and powerful of the world; the ruling class, regardless of race?

And that it might in fact suit them for you to blame 'the Jews' rather than the capitalist system?

internationalist


no blame

04.12.2001 17:56

I don't know if your refering to me, but I am not blaming the jews for anything, apart from stating that Israel is an integral part of the NWO, so is most of the western world,
my point is that they are mollycoddled by everyone and that there are a lot of other people(s) over protected, no one is allowed to say anything against them.

list of peoples who need some protection.

1) Black africans,
a in africa and the caribbean
b) in Europe
c) in the U.S
2) South American Indians
a) Guatamala, seriously risk being exterminated
b) the whole of south america.
3) Aborignal peoples of Australia
4) Maoris (NZ)
5) indiginous peoples of indonesia
a) east timor, but there are plent more .
6) red Indians , practically wiped out
7) Eskimo's
8) Roma gypsys in europe
b) in Eastern Europe
9) tamils in Sri Lanka
10) Basques
11) The scots !!!
12) Bosnians
13) Albanians
14) Macedonians
15) Nicaraguans , should be up nr the top.
16) Chileans. pretty rough their specially for the indios
17) bangladesh, also nr the top of the list
18) Tibet
bored with this...

in any order you like..

there are peoples all over the world who are worse off than the jews, so I repeat i am not, 100% not blaming the jews for
any thing. I am sick of hearing stereo type nonsense
about racists and the like. It seems to me that the jews can look after them selves so why does everyone want to protect the poor little dears ????
I wrote that list of the top of my head if anyone would like to add to it and then put the jews in where they deserve i reckon they wouldn't get into the top thirty of peoples in most need of help, protection , compassion..

shit i totally forgot the afghannies.. just shows you
they certainly don't have too many media moguls kicking about the western world !!

LB

Luther blissett


nice one luther

04.12.2001 21:48

Without irony, I think that lb's information on bits of his life history, insights into some corners of his mind, lots of interesting bits of alternative information and a carelessness about condemning fascist Israel, its butcher leader, apologists and those afraid of condemning anything 'jewish' has done a great service to indymedia and its concept of newsworthiness and pc. Thanks

dwight heet


Ignorance breeds fascism

04.12.2001 23:42

You are so full of shit, Luther Blisset. You aren't a fascist, just ignorant and prejudiced. Don't you think that there are Jews who care about all racism? I am one of them. My family (horrible, nasty Jewish bankers working for Banco di Sicilia) was chased out of Italy, smuggled from Catania in Sicily to Tirana in Albania, after Mussolini imposed the racial laws, purely because they were classified as Jews, although they were not religious. In Tirana, they were persecuted by the fascists for being Jews and by the communists for being Italian. Luckily, they did not suffer the genocide unleashed in much of Europe by the Nazis.

As a result of their experiences, my family has been staunchly anti-racist and have tried to study and understand other religions and cultures. Personally, I have a deep interest in Africa - far more than many in the left, whose only interest is what's in it for their party or their anti-American propaganda. I am also a member of the Council for the Advancement of Arab-British Understanding (CAABU). To say that Jews to 'look after themselves' and 'stop whining about the Holocaust' is frankly insulting and displays your profound ignorance of the Jewish community.

Jews are just as diverse as any community with as many political viewpoints as there are ideologies. Jews are not just bankers, they are barbers, artists, mechanics, scientists, dust-men, lawyers, cleaners, poets, shop workers, builders, etc. Go to Tel Aviv and you will see Jews of every colour, background and profession, from the black-cloaked Hassidic Jews to the hippies busking in the streets. I would expect anyone who believes in socialism and freedom to defend the lives of those who are the victims of every kind of terrorism, whether it's unleashed by the Israeli state or the Islamic Jihad. If you don't oppose those groups who wish to kill Jewish civilians, then you are against the Jewish working-class and you are a racist.

To castigate a race because some members of it are mad politicians, like the thug Sharon, or screw people out of money, is to be an ignorant racist. And you are one hell of a racist, 'Luther Blisset'. If you want me to say it to your face, I will gladly do so. Then you can display that wonderful right-hook so you can bash me and show everyone your true colours. I've heard people like you all my life and frankly I find you to be an incredibly sad individual.

Daniel Brett
mail e-mail: dan@danielbrett.co.uk


censorship leads to persecution.

05.12.2001 01:18

Well daniel thats the best comment yet.
But I find it hard to believe how some of you people overreact, talk about stereo types. Difficult for me to prove it on the an internet newswire but I show the same respect to eveyone I meet. Did I ever mention anything about jews being horrible,let alone bankers. Did I say stop whining about the Holocaust no, I simply said that black africans had suffered more than the jews. If you read the thread of the comments.
The original article mentioned that the jews controlled the media.. and the first comments said this was out of order anti semetic, is that your opinion ???

Because apart from saying that the jewish people who organised the Kosher dinners at the hotels I worked at in the 1970's treated the hotel staff like shit, which was true
it was always a job that everyone hated, waiters, porters electricians included, and the fact that the Falasha who went to Israel were subject to rascism which as far as I know is true. and of course the one liner provocation fuck dem
which I'll admit was not very nice, but hardly constitiutes
being labeled full of shit, rascist and ignorant prejudiced ect ect.
I did not criticise or make one single comment about what the jews were like. I concentrate on the general attitude towards the jews, which i find completely unreal.

I also find the comments posted to the first article and to my comments unreal, no one says that the content of the original article is not true and provides facts to prove it.
Each comments accuse both myself and the author of the original article, of saying things we clearly did not say.
you with your horrible nasty jewish bankers, you are the only one who has said that ..not me for sure.
I never for one moment would say anything to be little the plight of the Israeli victims of the latest atrocities
But I would say that the situation was created by the Israeli government who have been compared to the nazis and are seemingly intent on a bloodbath.
I didn't say that I support the palestinian terrorists
any more than I support the Israeli terrorists.

One thing that i find interesting is that no one commented on my theory about the black africans,rastfarians, being the lost tribe. the translations of the dead sea scrolls don't seem also to tell a different story,
and i would have thought that it would really set the cat amongst the pidgeons but no you rant and rave about me being
an ignorant racist, claim that I made some imaginary nasty comments about the jews but you don't say anything about
a point I made at least ten times and that is that there are a lot of people who are much worse off than the jews and no one gives a shit about them . If by saying that the suffering inflicted on black africans was the equivalent of ten holocausts is rascism then I guess i'm a racist, but only from a jewish point of view, I don't think a black african would condem me, perhaps what you are trying to say is that I am a selctive rascist and I although I claim to love everyone in actual fact I have singled out the jews..
It kinda proves my point.
The jews have a created a niche for themselves, they are the official victims, they are the poor people of the world the ones that deserve all the compassion and no one is allowed to say one word against them. Even if every prime minster & president in the world, every single person in power was jewish, no one is allowed to even mention it.
Like the emporers clothes isn't it ???

Tell you what why don't you cut out all the nasty things that I said about the jews from the comments and put them together and then call me a racist. You'll find your argument doesn't looks so strong because apart from the points I already listed, which are pretty weak there is very little that could be termed rascist.

Ignorance breeds fascism you say, my reply to that is censorship breeds mistrust which can lead to all sorts of nasty events. as we know from the past.
If people are not free to criticise the jewish people in free open debate then it's you that is creating a
situation where really ignorant people like the NF can start
sowing the seeds for another holocaust. I am not in a position to right all the wrongs in this world but I do try to help people, I will continue to do so and i will continue to speak my mind. Your response is close to hysteria which seems to be very be deep rooted in the UK when it comes to the jews. Check out what is being said about the israeli governments actions today on say for example IMC italia.
Israel is non too popular right about now, in most places where independent minded people are concerned.

"I've heard people like you all my life and frankly I find you to be an incredibly sad individual".

I won't take offence because I don't think you understand what i am saying. perhaps you never will ...

But I can assure you I am not a rascist..and I'm not sad
and don't hold anything against you or any one, jews or not.
Be good to take this to arbitration with a few neutral observers, apart from the fact that i am not that partisan.


LB


PS the banca di sicilia is now owned by the banca dei monte di paschi di Siena , the oldest bank in the world anno 1472

Luther blissett


What an incredibly stupid Article, ! check this out and learn !

02.04.2004 16:11

Lets see !!!

The President of the United States is Chrisitan, The Richest man in the World is Christian, Madonna and Britney Spears are Chrisitan ( OH MY GOD NO WAIT SHE STUDIES KABALLAH ! That makes her of Jewish influence ! ), let's see... oh yes ! Oprah is christian ( I don't see alot of Rabbis on TV), John Kerry isn't Jewish ( or is he????)
The top Ten Billionaires listed by Forbes ( including Walmart owners aren't Jewish)

Thats a shit load of important people that aren't Jewish, stop your babbling, I checked your sources, and it is amazing how many Jewish people have done well for themeselves ! considering we have been persecuted and mass murdered as Christ killers throughout history !

I feel sorry you have to repeat the same propaganda Hezbollah and Hamas do !!! as my good Jewish Friend William Shatner ( Captain Kirk who is building an army of Jewish Klingon mercenaries to control the world: hint: Star Trek Conventions are nothing but conspiracies !!!) oh but wait Roddenberry was Christian !!!!!!!!!!!

And if we control the Media as well as you do, than something must be done of the low approval rating Israel has around the world !!!

Last time I checked we're as well considered as Milosevic's Serbia ! that tell's you how well we control the media !!!

Mike Flangan
mail e-mail: cityofthesame@hotmail.com


Funny there is no Islam Tribal Review ! whats wrong, afraid of getting killed ?

02.04.2004 17:03

By the way, no Islam Tribal Review ? hmm it's true that the last peron who tried to pull that off ( Rai Uno journalsit) has a Fatwah on him now... oh well, good thing Jews don'T put bounties on people's head, all of you would be dead by now ( tell Salman Rushdie about it )

The Hum hum man