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Plane crasehed into New York

Ivan Agenda | 12.11.2001 14:50

A plane has crashed into the Queens borough of New York, although no suggestion it is a terrorist attack.

Some buildings are reported to be on fire but as of yet details are not know.

Ivan Agenda

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Flight 587

12.11.2001 15:10

255 people reported to be on board and the plane was an A300 Airbus which left from Boston Logan Airport. The plane is mechanically run. Eye witness reports are suggtesting debris was falling from the plane with the wing on fire, suggesting the possibility of mechanical failure.

fef


Same again

12.11.2001 15:54

Yet more karma returns to the US!

Amen

jo


collective national karma?

12.11.2001 16:06

Are you really comfortable with celebrating every loss of life in the US? Does it feel 'progressive'?

internationalist


BBC report

12.11.2001 17:04

link to full story on bbc website

eager reporter
- Homepage: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1651000/1651984.stm


Re Karma

12.11.2001 17:14


Re: "Are you really comfortable with celebrating every loss of life in the US?

Answer: Whose celebrating? Thats your interpretation of my posting.

Re: "Does it feel 'progressive'?"

Answer: Karma is always 'progressive', although on the face of it it may appear otherwise.

 http://www.austheos.org.au/karma.htm

Jo


oh no

12.11.2001 17:15

not again.. and Rockaway beach.. what a mess. deepest sympathies.

meanwhile what are the jo mooores and the crooks they cover for up to right now? the northern alliance are said to be 'at the gates' of Kabul and there was always a fear they would rape and plunder when they got back there.. any reports coming out just now? AND, what's going on at the WTO?

bah...

z


ho hum

12.11.2001 18:14

just another every day plane crash, of course ppl shoudlnt die liek this, but they did and now the press will bullshit on for days about it cos it happened in fucking america. spare me the bullshit

wonko the sane


Unseen Hand

12.11.2001 21:26

Eyewitnesses saw Flight 587 PLUNGE into the ground annihilating about twelve suburban homes, including a federal building, as well as innocent pedestrians.

Talk about bad luck, or bad karma, what is the chances of over a dozen major incidents across the World in just three months?

I hear the cry for "heightened security," soon you won't be permitted to step outdoors without official clearance. Sad.

Global Hawk


'just to keep people frightened'

13.11.2001 14:05

"In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, '. This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him." George Orwell, 1984.

 http://www.infotrad.clara.co.uk/antiwar/1984.html

George Orwell


change of propaganda tone

13.11.2001 15:17

from the TV chit chat it certainly seems as though the tone of the yankee propaganda machine has changed a bit.
Bush even looked a little bit emotional, as if he had been caught by surprise ?? . They didn't need this one and they are not cranking it up, although the FBI is reporting an explosion during the last few minutes of the ill fated flight. It seems that the U:S authorities would prefer that this plane crash was an accident.
They have probably over played the dramatix of 9.11 to enable them to kick off with WW3 and cut down by 50% on civil rights, having done that they now want to try and get the fa$t buck machine back on track but no fucker wants to get on a aeroplane which is not good for busine$$.
Besides they found the Black Box in record time and that probably rules out CIA involvement, they never seem to find them when there is any likely CIA dodgyness. (8 out of 8 !)
I saw a comment from Internationalist further up the page,
perhaps an Internationalist that didn't spend much time in the poorer parts of the world. Where victims of Wars and disasters ,natural and man made,where people lives are made a misery just so that the people who live in middle class
residential areas like Rockaway can have spacious detached houses with wide avenues and trees an' all the shit .
The people of nicaragua, for example, didn't get any councilling after the last Hurricane, most of them didn't get any food or medicines.
Perhaps the people who don't have anything to lose don't count as much as the people who live in fancy middle class suburbs, in the west, who in effect have everything to lose.
I don't hate anyone, but I am anti american because they are the 'evildoers', and what I can't stand is all the bullshit, I have seen the effects of american foreign policy for myself, I was deeply shocked to see that these poor peoples lives counted for nothing. Knowing that all the people tucked up in their nice cosy middle class world couldn''t give a fuck. What is it we are supposed to feel for thr U:S ? an alligence with people who's sense of security has been shattered by a series of events that could have happened to us or our next door neighbours and therefore shattered our illusions of safety ???? basically saying that our modern world is more important than their third world that makes us more civilised them them, after all they live in shit.

Well how about spraying some of these middle class area with dioxines like the U:S did in Vietnam ??
How could anyone say such an inhuman thing, but it was ok for the vietnamese.. if 587 was an accident and it was bad karma and they (the U.S) are gonna get back what they put in .. what they have had so far is just a drop in the ocean...
good time to leave the states ..

Agent Orange