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italian no globals versus berlusconi 1-0, says CNN

dolores | 11.11.2001 01:40

here we are, the cnn confirms what we saw in the streets today...about 100.000 peolpe marching against war and 40.000 in Piazza del Popolo with Berlusconi

ROME, Italy -- Anti-war sentiment dwarfed pro-U.S. feelings in Rome Saturday as people protesting the war in Afghanistan outnumbered those attending a rally led by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's conservatives.


ROME, Italy -- Anti-war sentiment dwarfed pro-U.S. feelings in Rome Saturday as people protesting the war in Afghanistan outnumbered those attending a rally led by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's conservatives.

According to police, some 100,000 opponents of the U.S.-led strikes against Afghanistan shouted "niente guerra" (no war), as they waved communist flags and anti-NATO banners near Rome's central railway station.

By contrast, a crowd of close to 40,000 attended the Berlusconi rally, police estimated.They waved U.S. flags, as well as flags of Italy and the European Union, as an orchestra played the "The Star Spangled Banner."

Security forces numbering some 6,000 were out en masse to prevent violence.

Determined to avoid the events of the Genoa G8 summit earlier this year when police shot dead an anti-globalisation protester during two days of violence, authorities sealed subway stations were and cordoned off streets.

A 3 km steel fence was erected through the centre of Rome to divide the groups.

And bracing for possible terror attacks, authorities banned flights over the capital -- even setting up anti-aircraft batteries.

But there was little trouble.

No police intervened when some marchers broke away to spray-paint anti-war slogans on banks along the route and hurl balloons filled with paint at a school. Another group burned a European Union flag.

The anti-war march began about an hour before the scheduled start of the pro-America rally in vast Piazza del Popolo.

"We're here today to say we're all citizens of New York," Berlusconi told the crowd, saying "we owe it to the American people" to have this rally.

Among those invited to address the crowd were eight New York City firefighters who had earlier in the morning presented Pope John Paul II with the white helmet of their chaplain, who was killed in the September 11 terror attacks.

"From all New York firefighters, from all New Yorkers, from all Americans, thank you, Rome, and thank you Italia," said Daniel A. Nigro, the department's new chief.

The USA Day rally came days after Parliament, which Berlusconi comfortably controls, voted overwhelmingly to send about 2,700 Italian troops and assorted military equipment to support the campaign against the Taliban.
Berlusconi, head of a conservative coalition, is at pains to show how unwavering an ally he is of Washington and the U.S.-led offensive.

Sophia Loren, Luciano Pavarotti and New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani were due to speak to the crowds at the rally via a video link. Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli was to sing live on stage and Berlusconi to deliver the closing speech.

The organisers of the anti-war march, No Global Forum, had said in advance their event would be entirely peaceful.

Their march was organised months ago, originally to protest against a summit of the Food and Agriculture Organisation planned in Rome for this week.

That summit was postponed until 2002 amid security fears in the wake of the attacks on the United States.

dolores

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Which article is that?

11.11.2001 13:00

Did you just make all that up? Here is the link to the CNN article:

 http://europe.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/11/10/gen.rome.rallies/index.html

And I'm afraid it's nothing like that. Every other report I've read has but the numbers of the anti's around 100,000 and the pro's around 20-40,000... but what do you expect from CNN?

antiwar
- Homepage: http://europe.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/11/10/gen.rome.rallies/index.html


Hmm.. weird

11.11.2001 13:52

From the point "Security forces numbering some..." the reports are identical. Indeed, certain passages are the same before that, but the one on the CNN site has the balance of numbers as the other way round, without the bits about Berlusconi's rally being 'dwarfed'.

Either the report on this site has been changed by the poster, or CNN has altered its online report.

What's going on?

Genoseize


anyway respect to the italian anti war demo

11.11.2001 17:27

what ever the numbers, and 4 sure it was a lot, let's big up the italian demonstraters, as anyone who went to G8/ Genova will know demonstrating in Italy is a very dangerous
past time, Italian cops are complete morons and some of the most savage in the world. They have all the latest protective clothing and are armed with a variety of clubs,truncheons and rakes of tear gas they courageously batter the shit out of anyone who is foolish enough to get with arms reach of them.
That includes woman and old men anyone.
You only had to see them in action against england fans in rome a couple of years back, they were battering innocent fans who were sitting down watching the match, while the trouble makers were 100yds or so away and were left alone to carry on chucking seats at the Italian fans.

BIG RESPECT

Luther Blissett


Censorship

11.11.2001 18:24

I can confirm that I've read the article following the mentioned Link on CNN's website. On Saturday evening it still looked like the text posted above. Yes, it has been changed. Anybody wants to guess why?

ky


mistery

11.11.2001 18:36

It looks like they changed the article this morning
the news I posted was taken from Indynedia Italy, where you can see the thread about this little mistery
 http://italy.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=28082&group=webcast

CNN Italy still reports 100.000 no global and 40.000 with Berlusconi
 http://www.cnnitalia.it/2001/ITALIA/11/10/cortei/index.html

dolores