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Afghans Nuked!

Pseudonym | 07.11.2001 10:33

Evil is evil whoever perpetrates it.

Yesterday, Nov.6th, the USA nuked Afghanistan. They call it a ‘Daisy Cutter’ but it’s also known as the ‘poor man’s’ tactical nuclear weapon. This bomb is the size of a large car and intended for maximum casualties.

But Bush says Bin Laden may be trying to develop nuclear weapons because he is an “evil man, with evil weapons.” So what does that make Bush?

An evil man who already has evil weapons and used them on a Third World country.

Pseudonym

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USA beware

07.11.2001 11:13


True, too true.

But America should realise, that all the destructive actions they impose on the world is destined to return to them sooner or later, in one way or another. Such is the law of Karma.

God will bless America only in as much as America has blessed others.

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Karma - The Universal Law of Harmony

 http://www.austheos.org.au/karma.htm

The law of karma states that order pervades the universe, that nothing exists which is not under the sway of law. A divine plan governs all things.

Natural law operates not only in the physical world, but in the realms of thought and feeling as well.

Karma is the law of spiritual dynamics that can be related to every act in daily life. The word ''karma'' is Sanskrit, meaning action and implying the entire cycle of cause - effect Emerson's " law of compensation'' approximates it in meaning and understanding. The law refers particularly to the accumulation of effects brought about by causes set in motion through our attitudes and actions in the past, and includes the new causes initiated in the present that will result in future effects.

The science of physics demonstrate that no particle of energy can be put forth anywhere in the universe without a natural result following. A stone tossed into the air returns at once to earth as a result of the law of gravity. The energy expended in winding a clock will produce a more delayed result, but the resulting force will exactly equal the original expenditure of energy or cause.

In mixing chemical elements, the reaction may be immediate or long delayed. This is no less true in the chemistry of living, as we bring together actions, thoughts and feelings. The result may follow at once or be postponed in accordance with obscure factors. All thought, desire and action disturb in some measure the equilibrium through a process of readjustment. The operation of this law is as truly a moral law as it is a physical law and can be directly observed as such.

We Choose Our Destiny

The law operates wether or not we are conscious of it. By its functioning our destinies are shaped. Its continued action arises from and depends solely upon our own free will. By our ignorance, we bind ourselves through selfish actions, feelings and thoughts. Only when we have learned that in order to find happiness and peace we must cease the flow of selfish action. Will we begin to use the law consciously for our liberation from the cyclic necessity of reincarnation. Even the slightest thought
or act has its inevitable consequences. Death does not settle the score, anymore than moving to a new town will cancel the debts incurred in the old one.

Each of us is born with a character, in an environment and family that seem either helpful or inimical to our progress. In reality all sets of circumstances are opportunities for us, for they are natural results of past living and should be viewed as the stepping-stones for our future growth. Our destiny is not imposed upon us. It is of own making, and we daily weave the threads of our future destiny.

Cause - Effect

Sometimes the result alone is seen without the preceding cause, and it therefore seems entirely unaccountable. Or the cause is witnessed and the result seems non-existent. When one first meets the knowledge of reincarnation and karma, One is apt to feel resentful over the fact that one now suffers the result of causes set in motion by some body else. But when viewed from the pattern of Immortal Life and the inner being is seen as truly imperishable, living through successive lives, all
events are perceived to have their natural cause and logical consequence. In fact cause and effect can be seen as inseparable, for effect is inherent in the cause, and the two may be thought of as one cause -effect.

The law of spiritual dynamics makes us self -reliant beings with the realisation that we neither desire nor seek to escape responsibility. Rather, we wish to become self-conscious masters of our environment. Only by understanding the law and working with it, can we master natural law, as an aviator learns to fly by understanding the law of gravity and opposing to it other natural principles.

Similarly, in the moral world we transcend the inevitableness of consequences by understanding the law of karma and setting in motion causes that will produce the desirable effects, neutralising the under desirable. In the inviolability of law lies our change and remake the character that is the outcome of our past living and create our future character more perfectly.

Certainly without such a law, we would be drifting aimlessly on a shoreless sea, without chart or compass, at the mercy of every adverse wind, borne onward only by the ceaseless tide of evolution.

Not Predestination

Karma is neither predestination nor fate. The application of this natural law does away with any possibility of such a thing as luck, either good or bad. Behind every piece of good fortune lie the causes that the individual has consciously or unconsciously precipitated, perhaps recently or in a previous life. Behind every bit of misfortune lies the energy likewise generated by the individual. While it is true that the accumulated karma of an individual helps or hinders one's progress, we are still
free to choose within the limits of our making. By successive efforts and choices or lack of effort; we determine the orbit of our freedom. Fatalism or predestination implies that we are so bound by circumstances or by some power outside ourselves that no effort of our own can free us. Under the operation of the law of karma, the ones who generate the causes or forces can modify or neutralise them. We may be temporarily bound, but we do own binding. In the present we have the power
to modify and improve our future.

Basic Principles

While the working out of the law may be very complex; with almost infinite permutations and combinations in human lives, yet certain basic principles of operation may be grasped and employed immediately.

We are normally living in three worlds-physical, emotional and mental - in vehicles appropriate to each world. We generate energies or forces as we act in each of these worlds. These energies bring corresponding results on their respective levels. Physical acts or deeds create physical environment, desires determine family and social links with other individuals and thoughts result in mental abilities or inability's. The summation of all these is what we character.

Action on the Physical Level

If we act in such a manner as to bring happiness to others, we will find ourselves sooner or later in a fortunate physical environment, with an increased opportunity for spreading happiness and goodwill.

If, on the other hand, we cause pain to others by our actions or our failure to act ,we will find ourselves eventually in unhappy surroundings until we learn by experience a greater wisdom in living.

The law itself is impersonal, neither good nor bad. Good or right may be defined from the evolutionist point of view as being all that is in line with the furtherance of evolution, bad or evil is therefore all that opposes progress toward perfection. Even in the case of bad actions, the law functions not to punish the evil-doer, but to teach him With the lesson learned is beyond the possibility of failure, natures purpose is accomplished.

Action on the Emotional Level

The force generated on the emotional level is that of desire or feeling. The pursuit of desire stimulates exertion and aids in our development by binding us to the objects of desire. We may judge the wisdom of a particular desire by experiencing the results of its gratification. Through experiencing the unpleasant results of unwise desires, the soul learns to raise lower desires, into higher ones and finally to attain liberation from all desires Through the happiness enjoyed by wise desires, the soul gains expansion and illumination, with the final power of being happy in all circumstances.

Desire also makes opportunities. Once we perceive this principle, we will understand that if we wish to have future opportunities in any particular line of endeavour ,we should not only cultivate the present desire along that line ,but try to put that desire into action now so far as is possible

Action On The Mental Level

The third force is that of thought. The force generated in thinking increases our ability to think, and increases the power of the mind as an instrument.

Most thoughts are primarily associated with emotion and therefore may bring the thinker into contact with other persons in the relationships of every-day life, either pleasant or unpleasant.

Thought is also a great creative power by which one can build both habit and character, which is the sum total of our habits. Action is but the physical expression of thought, as natural and inevitable in kind as the growth of a plant from the seed.

This is our key to power. Knowing that we become that which we think, we can deliberately set our ourselves to think of those virtues and qualities which we desire to possess. Slowly the moulding power of thought builds those virtues into manifestation. The process is as natural as that of developing muscles by exercise and can
be scientifically employed.

Reincarnation A Necessary Means

Every human being is constantly generating these three types of force-physical, emotional and mental. These determine not only our mode of life now, with its successes or failures, and the state of consciousness after death, but also our environment and relationships with others in succeeding incarnations. Obviously the balance of justice is not always struck within the limits of one life. That is why reincarnation is said to be a means to an end, rather than an end in itself . The cycles of
reincarnation provide the necessary extension in time for the operation of the law of causation. The law of justice and the re establishment of equilibrium in the universe must work out in individual experience. We must also gradually develop our power, knowledge and skill in action and unfold our divine nature.

It is important in understanding karma to realise that motive must be differentiated from action. Deeds react upon the environment, but motive reacts on character.

When we are faced with a piece of unpleasant karma ,we must seek to meet it constructively and modify it, remembering that it is in reality an opportunity to build new qualities of character. Courage and serenity in meeting misfortune, and the persistent effort to eradicate all feelings of ill-will resentment toward those who seem to be responsible for our unhappiness will do much to mitigate both present and future effects.

Opportunities

Occasionally, an opportunity comes to us that we feel is impossible for us to fulfil. But it would not be there unless the law had brought it as a result of past desire and effort. Such opportunities should be seized bravely. If we can nearly do a thing, we have worked for it in the past. To the strength of past efforts we may be adding the final step to bring a latent power into active expression.

Very often the action of karma is not felt immediately. It is like a seed that lies dormant, seemingly dead, but eventually sprouts, matures and the harvest is reaped. In the fertile soil of our physical, emotional and mental natures, we plant the seeds of our future, and we carry with us the rich harvest of many past sowing's. If the harvest seemingly is poor and unfruitful, it can be improved by planting better seed. We are never without opportunities to plant anew, to plant the seeds of love, of kindness of beauty, that we may reap the harvest of tolerance, faith and loveliness.

Character is the visible record of the past, and the promise of the future. The qualities and capacities of today are the results of our yesterdays and rungs on the ladder stretching to greater tomorrows. As we climb we reshape the present more nearly in the image of the future, and so change the past. The failures become but steps up the ladder leading to perfection, When the whole of time is glimpsed at last as an Eternal Now.


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How To End Terrorism Now: A Viable Solution
By Dr. David Leffler
 http://www.davidleffler.com/index.html

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"Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them."
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

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Ron


End of Days

07.11.2001 11:39

You are right Ron, whatever you do in life (good or bad) comes back to you DOUBLE! And you cannot escape your karma by death, it clings to your ethereal body and must be resolved if not in this life, in the next. So in effect, Bush is preparing the USA for annihilation.

Hope


less of them about

07.11.2001 11:52

one thing for sure yankees are cowardly scum. the tourist trade is already complaining that american tourists have all but dissapeared which is good news. Won't have to put up with hordes of fat arsed american women running around europe in the future ...

sun of a beach


BBC.Fuel-air weapons 4 dummies

07.11.2001 12:01

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/world/2001/fuel_air/default.stm

Introduction

Fuel-air weapons exploit the devastating effects of
detonating volatile vapour in air.

The explosion caused by igniting a fuel air mixture
produces a fireball and a rapidly-expanding blast
wave many times greater than that from
conventional explosives.

The effects are similar to those from a small
nuclear weapon, without the radiation.

The Americans used fuel-air bombs in Vietnam and
dropped more than 200 during the Gulf War. The
Russians used them in Afghanistan and in
Chechnya.

There is a nice little instruction booklet which explains quite a bit about these bombs in easy laymans terms

luther Blissett


somewhat off the point (sorry)

07.11.2001 14:32

Sun of a beach: "fat arsed American women"..
Racism, sexism and sizeism in just four words, what economy of offence!

internationalist


are you sure?

07.11.2001 15:05

I always thought that physical laws were simply models, analogies that are convenient to use in mathematics to describe the sense data we receive from the universe and not actually the universe itself and, futhermore, open to interpretation, mutual exclusivity, contradiction and outright refutation (see every revolution in physical scientific thought for details; Plato-to-Newton-to-Einstein-to-Schrodinger to whatever is next).

Probably not the best way to illustrate something in which you firmly believe and wish to convince others of its validity and veracity. To use this as an analogy for karma is to confuse the map with the territory.

Perhaps "games theory" is a more useful analogy when considering karma, since, for a start, it deals with human behaviour, where people play either co-operative or non-co-operative, zero-sum or non-zero-sum games with any number of players. "Classical" games theory is, in fact, a branch of economics (starting to see the picture?) and modelling using games theory is instrumental in the design of modern Artificial Intelligence systems and doesn't have concepts like re-incarnation attached to discredit it amongst those of other faiths.

An extract from "Game Theory: An Introductory Sketch" by Roger A. McCain. Full source at  http://william-king.www.drexel.edu/top/eco/game/game.html

A Scientific Metaphor
Since the work of John von Neumann, "games" have been a scientific metaphor for a much wider range of human interactions in which the outcomes depend on the interactive strategies of two or more persons, who have opposed or at best mixed motives. Among the issues discussed in game theory are

1) What does it mean to choose strategies "rationally" when outcomes depend on the strategies chosen by others and when information is incomplete?

2) In "games" that allow mutual gain (or mutual loss) is it "rational" to cooperate to realize the mutual gain (or avoid the mutual loss) or is it "rational" to act aggressively in seeking individual gain regardless of mutual gain or loss?

3) If the answers to 2) are "sometimes," in what circumstances is aggression rational and in what circumstances is cooperation rational?

4) In particular, do ongoing relationships differ from one-off encounters in this connection?

5) Can moral rules of cooperation emerge spontaneously from the interactions of rational egoists?

6) How does real human behavior correspond to "rational" behavior in these cases?

7) If it differs, in what direction? Are people more cooperative than would be "rational?" More aggressive? Both?

Thus, among the "games" studied by game theory are


Bankruptcy
Barbarians at the Gate
Battle of the Networks
Caveat Emptor
Conscription
Coordination
Escape and Evasion
Frogs Call for Mates
Hawk versus Dove
Mutually Assured Destruction
Majority Rule
Market Niche
Mutual Defense
Prisoner's Dilemma
Subsidized Small Business
Tragedy of the Commons
Ultimatum
Video System Coordination
(This list is extracted from an index of games discussed in Roy Gardner, Games for Business and Economics).

Within this paradigm, "karma" is simply "the set of all zero-sum games" which is itself a subset of "the set of all games." This implies the notion of karma is not in itself a full description of reality since it is not "the set of all things" but a subset of "the set of all things" and so system of personal faith (also termed "delusion" or "hallucination" in psychiatry depending on the popularity of the specific set of beliefs within the population). This is not to dismiss your beliefs out of hand, it is merely to state that others play the games with a different view of what is a "rational" outcome.

Awareness of games theory can produce the nenjin mind without the clutter of dogma (which Bhuddism is just as capable of producing as any other belief system). It does require a greater understanding of complexity and can produce monsters. It allows us to act in non-standard ways and hide information to affect the outcome of the game.

Personally, I like to think of life as "the game with no name - and no rules." Anyone who tries to tell you that there ARE rules is cheating (Bhuddists should like that one).

"TGWNN-ANR" is outcome based (ie. the players have specific aims to achieve) sometimes these are at odds with others desired outcomes, sometimes harmonious. Sometimes it is possible to cooperate with another player who's objectives are at odds with your own to acheive YOUR objective by witholding information or deception (eg. New Labour appealling to the Socialist vote) and sometimes people who are aiming to achieve the same ends are incapable of cooperation (eg the revolutionary left in practically every country in the world). My life experience (and that of games theorists) is that cooperation, although paying less short term dividends, has a long term advantage.

Unfortunately, Global Capital is also aware of this but operates on an analyses of "opportunity cost" (ie, which is the best utilisation - on balance - of the scarce resources at my disposal). Companies are interested (indeed obliged by law) in maximising only a handful of factors - mainly profit and dividends -(this is the "short term") and it's continued participation in the game (the "medium term", since catastrophe could end the game at any time) - with little consideration for other by-products of their operations.

The continued survival of life on this planet, the freedom for intellectual and spiritual development of all individuals or the search for God(the "long term") do not feature on the agenda at the AGM of very many corporations, certainly not at McDonalds or Nike (I think they have a Black Mass instead).

Oops, seem to have written a thesis, I'm off before I think of anything else.

Peace for all time.

mjarsk


Not so sure about the karma

07.11.2001 15:25

I always thought that physical laws were simply models, analogies that are convenient to use in mathematics to describe the sense data we receive from the universe and not actually the universe itself and, futhermore, open to interpretation, mutual exclusivity, contradiction and outright refutation (see every revolution in physical scientific thought for details; Plato-to-Newton-to-Einstein-to-Schrodinger to whatever is next).

Probably not the best way to illustrate something in which you firmly believe and wish to convince others of its validity and veracity. To use this as an analogy for karma is to confuse the map with the territory.

Perhaps "games theory" is a more useful analogy when considering karma, since, for a start, it deals with human behaviour, where people play either co-operative or non-co-operative, zero-sum or non-zero-sum games with any number of players. "Classical" games theory is, in fact, a branch of economics (starting to see the picture?) and modelling using games theory is instrumental in the design of modern Artificial Intelligence systems and doesn't have concepts like re-incarnation attached to discredit it amongst those of other faiths.

An extract from "Game Theory: An Introductory Sketch" by Roger A. McCain. Full source at  http://william-king.www.drexel.edu/top/eco/game/game.html

A Scientific Metaphor
Since the work of John von Neumann, "games" have been a scientific metaphor for a much wider range of human interactions in which the outcomes depend on the interactive strategies of two or more persons, who have opposed or at best mixed motives. Among the issues discussed in game theory are

1) What does it mean to choose strategies "rationally" when outcomes depend on the strategies chosen by others and when information is incomplete?

2) In "games" that allow mutual gain (or mutual loss) is it "rational" to cooperate to realize the mutual gain (or avoid the mutual loss) or is it "rational" to act aggressively in seeking individual gain regardless of mutual gain or loss?

3) If the answers to 2) are "sometimes," in what circumstances is aggression rational and in what circumstances is cooperation rational?

4) In particular, do ongoing relationships differ from one-off encounters in this connection?

5) Can moral rules of cooperation emerge spontaneously from the interactions of rational egoists?

6) How does real human behavior correspond to "rational" behavior in these cases?

7) If it differs, in what direction? Are people more cooperative than would be "rational?" More aggressive? Both?

Thus, among the "games" studied by game theory are


Bankruptcy
Barbarians at the Gate
Battle of the Networks
Caveat Emptor
Conscription
Coordination
Escape and Evasion
Frogs Call for Mates
Hawk versus Dove
Mutually Assured Destruction
Majority Rule
Market Niche
Mutual Defense
Prisoner's Dilemma
Subsidized Small Business
Tragedy of the Commons
Ultimatum
Video System Coordination
(This list is extracted from an index of games discussed in Roy Gardner, Games for Business and Economics).

Within this paradigm, "karma" is simply "the set of all zero-sum games" which is itself a subset of "the set of all games." This implies the notion of karma is not in itself a full description of reality since it is not "the set of all things" but a subset of "the set of all things" and so system of personal faith (also termed "delusion" or "hallucination" in psychiatry depending on the popularity of the specific set of beliefs within the population). This is not to dismiss your beliefs out of hand, it is merely to state that others play the games with a different view of what is a "rational" outcome.

Awareness of games theory can produce the nenjin mind without the clutter of dogma (which Bhuddism is just as capable of producing as any other belief system). It does require a greater understanding of complexity and can produce monsters. It allows us to act in non-standard ways and hide information to affect the outcome of the game.

Personally, I like to think of life as "the game with no name - and no rules." Anyone who tries to tell you that there ARE rules is cheating (Bhuddists should like that one).

"TGWNN-ANR" is outcome based (ie. the players have specific aims to achieve) sometimes these are at odds with others desired outcomes, sometimes harmonious. Sometimes it is possible to cooperate with another player who's objectives are at odds with your own to acheive YOUR objective by witholding information or deception (eg. New Labour appealling to the Socialist vote) and sometimes people who are aiming to achieve the same ends are incapable of cooperation (eg the revolutionary left in practically every country in the world). My life experience (and that of games theorists) is that cooperation, although paying less short term dividends, has a long term advantage.

Unfortunately, Global Capital is also aware of this but operates on an analyses of "opportunity cost" (ie, which is the best utilisation - on balance - of the scarce resources at my disposal). Companies are interested (indeed obliged by law) in maximising only a handful of factors - mainly profit and dividends -(this is the "short term") and it's continued participation in the game (the "medium term", since catastrophe could end the game at any time) - with little consideration for other by-products of their operations.

The continued survival of life on this planet, the freedom for intellectual and spiritual development of all individuals or the search for God(the "long term") do not feature on the agenda at the AGM of very many corporations, certainly not at McDonalds or Nike (I think they have a Black Mass instead).

Oops, seem to have written a thesis, I'm off before I think of anything else.

Peace for all time.

mj


Not so sure about the karma...

07.11.2001 15:28

I always thought that physical laws were simply models, analogies that are convenient to use in mathematics to describe the sense data we receive from the universe and not actually the universe itself and, futhermore, open to interpretation, mutual exclusivity, contradiction and outright refutation (see every revolution in physical scientific thought for details; Plato-to-Newton-to-Einstein-to-Schrodinger to whatever is next).

Probably not the best way to illustrate something in which you firmly believe and wish to convince others of its validity and veracity. To use this as an analogy for karma is to confuse the map with the territory.

Perhaps "games theory" is a more useful analogy when considering karma, since, for a start, it deals with human behaviour, where people play either co-operative or non-co-operative, zero-sum or non-zero-sum games with any number of players. "Classical" games theory is, in fact, a branch of economics (starting to see the picture?) and modelling using games theory is instrumental in the design of modern Artificial Intelligence systems and doesn't have concepts like re-incarnation attached to discredit it amongst those of other faiths.

An extract from "Game Theory: An Introductory Sketch" by Roger A. McCain. Full source at  http://william-king.www.drexel.edu/top/eco/game/game.html

A Scientific Metaphor
Since the work of John von Neumann, "games" have been a scientific metaphor for a much wider range of human interactions in which the outcomes depend on the interactive strategies of two or more persons, who have opposed or at best mixed motives. Among the issues discussed in game theory are

1) What does it mean to choose strategies "rationally" when outcomes depend on the strategies chosen by others and when information is incomplete?

2) In "games" that allow mutual gain (or mutual loss) is it "rational" to cooperate to realize the mutual gain (or avoid the mutual loss) or is it "rational" to act aggressively in seeking individual gain regardless of mutual gain or loss?

3) If the answers to 2) are "sometimes," in what circumstances is aggression rational and in what circumstances is cooperation rational?

4) In particular, do ongoing relationships differ from one-off encounters in this connection?

5) Can moral rules of cooperation emerge spontaneously from the interactions of rational egoists?

6) How does real human behavior correspond to "rational" behavior in these cases?

7) If it differs, in what direction? Are people more cooperative than would be "rational?" More aggressive? Both?

Thus, among the "games" studied by game theory are


Bankruptcy
Barbarians at the Gate
Battle of the Networks
Caveat Emptor
Conscription
Coordination
Escape and Evasion
Frogs Call for Mates
Hawk versus Dove
Mutually Assured Destruction
Majority Rule
Market Niche
Mutual Defense
Prisoner's Dilemma
Subsidized Small Business
Tragedy of the Commons
Ultimatum
Video System Coordination
(This list is extracted from an index of games discussed in Roy Gardner, Games for Business and Economics).

Within this paradigm, "karma" is simply "the set of all zero-sum games" which is itself a subset of "the set of all games." This implies the notion of karma is not in itself a full description of reality since it is not "the set of all things" but a subset of "the set of all things" and so system of personal faith (also termed "delusion" or "hallucination" in psychiatry depending on the popularity of the specific set of beliefs within the population). This is not to dismiss your beliefs out of hand, it is merely to state that others play the games with a different view of what is a "rational" outcome.

Awareness of games theory can produce the nenjin mind without the clutter of dogma (which Bhuddism is just as capable of producing as any other belief system). It does require a greater understanding of complexity and can produce monsters. It allows us to act in non-standard ways and hide information to affect the outcome of the game.

Personally, I like to think of life as "the game with no name - and no rules." Anyone who tries to tell you that there ARE rules is cheating (Bhuddists should like that one).

"TGWNN-ANR" is outcome based (ie. the players have specific aims to achieve) sometimes these are at odds with others desired outcomes, sometimes harmonious. Sometimes it is possible to cooperate with another player who's objectives are at odds with your own to acheive YOUR objective by witholding information or deception (eg. New Labour appealling to the Socialist vote) and sometimes people who are aiming to achieve the same ends are incapable of cooperation (eg the revolutionary left in practically every country in the world). My life experience (and that of games theorists) is that cooperation, although paying less short term dividends, has a long term advantage.

Unfortunately, Global Capital is also aware of this but operates on an analyses of "opportunity cost" (ie, which is the best utilisation - on balance - of the scarce resources at my disposal). Companies are interested (indeed obliged by law) to maximise only a handful of factors - mainly profit and dividends -(this is the "short term") and it's continued participation in the game (the "medium term", since catastrophe could end the game at any time) - with little consideration for other by-products of their operations.

The continued survival of life on this planet, the freedom for intellectual and spiritual development of all individuals or the search for God(the "long term") do not feature on the agenda at the AGM of very many corporations, certainly not at McDonalds or Nike (I think they have a Black Mass instead).

Oops, seem to have written a thesis, I'm off before I think of anything else.

Peace for all time.

mjarsk
mail e-mail: a@a.com


Violence breeds violence?

07.11.2001 15:52


Re: "Not so sure about the karma".

Hi mj,

I enjoyed reading about your 'game' view of the world, and I'm sure there is something in it. But I wouldnt discount the important role of karma in world events. Its a simple case of "every action creates an opposite reaction", and "as you sow, so shall you reap" (the results of your actions, both good and bad). It's basic physics really, and can be applied to anything in life, including war and peace issues.

Best wishes,

Ron


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How To End Terrorism Now: A Viable Solution
By Dr. David Leffler
 http://www.davidleffler.com/index.html

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Ron


Not nukes, not evil

07.11.2001 17:15

I have to say this is the kind of sensationalism that I think does damage to a reasonable consideration of the war, its causes, and consequences. No, the USA did not 'nuke' Afghanistan, as your title says. They dropped another kind of -- big -- bomb, but no nukes. No, George Bush is not evil -- "There is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so" -- he's just a man out for his own and his kind, like men have always done. OK the consequences are harmful, but we don't know how many people were hurt or killed, who they were etc.

We need to take responsibility for what is happening, and it's causes within ourselves. We don't just share our humanity with those being bombed. If our leaders are bombing Afghanistan, so are we.

Puffy G


Game theory

07.11.2001 17:28

Life is a game I agree; but people who tell you there are rules aren't cheating. Because there are no rules that prohibit telling other people there are rules. People who tell you there are rules are just playing their tactics in the game.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."

The problem is, that *is* the whole of the law. Except that what some people wilt is to prescribe laws for others.

You can't stop them doing that.

Puffy G