WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK - UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
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No ones knows what happened because EIGHT (8) indestructible black boxes (2 on each flight) were destroyed
WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK - UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
By: Lawrence Stephen Maxwell
Four planes, three of the planes hit buildings, One of them crashed in a field in Pennsylvania.
No ones knows what happened because EIGHT (8) indestructible black boxes (2 on each flight) were destroyed or reportedly damaged beyond possible restoration. Guess that is why they are referred to as indestructible. The crash in Pennsylvania did not even cause an explosion. Even if it had, the boxes are designed to withstand twice the maximum heat that can be generated by a jet fuel fire. Why didn't they show us the destroyed boxes?
Do you think the guys who actually found them would talk to anyone? Or are they still alive to discuss what THEY saw with their own eyes? Paper passports of two (2) of the alleged hijackers survived just fine and were supposedly found in the burning ruble of the Pentagon crash, and another three blocks from the WTC.......three blocks. I would bet good money to anyone who thinks he could contrive a way to launch a passport a distance of
three city blocks.
We have been told that seven cell phone calls were made from the planes. Not ONE of the callers described the hijackers as Arabic, Saudi, Muslin, Iranian or anyone from the Middle East.
Barbara Olson, writer, author, investigative reporter, famous commentator, attorney, and wife of the Solicitor General of the United States (Mr. Olson being George W's lawyer who argued before the Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore), did not describe the hijackers to him as being from the middle east. She was trained to be observant and mentally record details, yet there has been no report that she described the hijackers at all. Are we to believe
she didn't describe them, or did she describe them and we just aren't being told? And if we aren't being told, is it because her description doesn't match the profile being fed to us?
And are we to believe the Solicitor General forgot to ask her to DESCRIBE the criminals? I guess we are to accept that this is obviously an insignificant "fact" that the most high-powered-lawyer in the United States would understandably forget to ask.
From almost the moment it happened it was dubbed an ATTACK ON AMERICA. I have videotape referring to it in that manner BEFORE George W made his speech in the Florida elementary school and went prancing across the country. It has NEVER been referred to as an Attack on the United States. In everything the federal government does from a legal perspective - writing and executing laws, prosecution -- everything is the based on an entity known as the United States. But on September 11, 2001 and every day since,
the criminal acts were an Attack on America. Why are we suddenly America, not the United States?
BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms) agents have been walking around all over the ruble for two weeks. Why?
More defense systems were disabled than can even be listed. And the media are NOT talking about THAT.
When OKC was bombed, all we heard for more than a week was Osama Bin Laden, Osama Bin Laden. Then they pinned it on a guy that they said was driving a Ryder rental truck.
They arrested McVeigh, according to news reports, 2 hours after the bombing, driving south on Interstate 45 toward Dallas..barefoot, no shirt, plates expired, no driver license, speeding, with a loaded .45 caliber automatic on the front seat. Just exactly what you would expect from someone who had
just blown up an 8 story building with a fertilizer bomb.
From that moment on, they called OKC a terrorist act. Without McVeigh they had no terrorist. We still, to this day, do not know what McVeigh was supposedly trying to influence the civilian population to do, or how he was supposedly trying to influence government policy....
Explain to me how all of the defense systems were disabled? How did four planes, that were not on their computerized flight paths, fly around for more than an hour and a half without alarms going off all over the place? When their altitudes and positions CEASED TO BE VISIBLE ON RADAR, why weren't people (air traffic
controllers) alarmed?
As close as Boston and Dulles are to D.C., why would disappearing planes NOT be a cause for alarm? Why was it more than an hour AFTER the WTC crashes that fighters were scrambled? Was the Air Force sleeping at 7:45 AM on a Tuesday morning when the planes were supposedly hijacked, and deviated from their designated flight paths?
Are we supposed to believe that when a transponder is turned OFF that no one is alerted that the plane is no longer being tracked by altitude; and that such a thing could occur to four planes almost simultaneously in the same geographical region, dangerously close to the seat of government, and NO ONE was alerting the media, the defense department, or anyone?
Am I supposed to believe that no one even had a clue for an hour and a half from the time the first plane left its flight plan until smoke started coming out of a WTC tower? And when the first plane hit the tower, no one knew that three other planes were missing, and thought it prudent to call the media or government officials and tell them that three other planes were missing and that other locations might not be safe?
I have talked to three pilots who have told me in their own words and understandings that what we are being told happened, could NOT possibly have happened.
What I DO KNOW is that we are not hearing much TRUTH. And 110 story buildings do NOT collapse because a plane hits them. The second plane nearly missed the building, only going through the corner. Most of the fuel burned in an outside explosion. It collasped first, long before the tower that the plane completely entered. The refined Kerosene (a/k/a jet fuel) burned up fairly quickly. The stuff burning from that point on was desks, paper, plastics, carpet, etc. That fuel did not generate 2000-degree heat that would compromise 6 tubular steel columns in the center of the building designed SPECIFICALLY to keep the building from collapsing if hit by a Boeing 707 that, because it was older and less efficient, carried MORE fuel that the 757 and 767 that hit the towers. The structural engineer who designed the WTC Towers explained how the towers were designed to withstand a hit by a commercial jet -- and he did explain this to an international
coalition on Terrorism in Frankfurt, Germany on Wednesday before the event.
And 53 minutes after Tower 2 was hit the tower just imploded because it was on fire? Yeah right! I discussed this with a structural engineer who investigated a HOTEL in Los Angeles that he said was 30 stories and it burned from the ground floor up. It burned for nearly a week. The fire totally destroyed everything on all 30 floors. The estimated temperatures
were 2200 degrees because of the natural gas and other fuel that was the catalyst for the fire.
The concrete and infrastructure did not budge. It cost more than a million dollars to TEAR IT DOWN. The 30 floors above the first floor did NOT cave in on the first floor when the support structure go hot. And he reviewed the architecture on the WTC and said the type of steel and the type of construction for the WTC was double the strength of the LA hotel.
Just like in OKC, people reported hearing multiple EXPLOSIONS before the WTC collapsed. I have video of people who were interviewed after the collapses and they said they heard a series of explosions (not floors collapsing) and then the buildings came down. The media dismissed it as exploding main gas lines. Gas mains on the 104th floor? Yeah right!
We know that there would NOT be any safety mechanism in place that would have shut off gas flow throughout the buildings in the case of fire -- 53 minutes after a plane hit the building. Guess it was a big gas valve and it could not be vented to the outside air after it was shut off. If that is true, I have better safety measures in my own house than the WTC had.
And why would they need safety mechanisms in place? It isn't like anyone has ever tried to blow up those same two towers before.
The strength of the WTC towers was in the 6 Tubular Steel Columns in the CENTER of the buildings, not the steel structure on the outside like most construction. The buildings were literally, according to the builder, designed NOT to pancake in the event of a Boeing 707 crashing into them. But they collapsed. It took 53 minutes for Tower 2 and 88 minutes for Tower 1 -- to simply COLLAPSE. Excerpts of his speech in Germany were posted to
the internet five days before the planes hit the towers.
My take? Americans are not very bright. Americans don't think. They accept what they are told. They don't TEST what they are told. They are lazy, and naive to the point of being undeserving of liberty. And for that reason they will sacrifice liberty for what they perceive to be security. That is exactly, in fact, the genesis for the federal government.
The States gave up their RIGHTS in exchange for perceived security. And as long as the talking-heads can convince the general public that the federal government can PROTECT THEM, the sheople will patriotically give up every right they have if it makes them feel safe -- while singing GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Copyright October 2001
Lawrence Stephen Maxwell
Permission granted to reproduce and distribute
By: Lawrence Stephen Maxwell
Four planes, three of the planes hit buildings, One of them crashed in a field in Pennsylvania.
No ones knows what happened because EIGHT (8) indestructible black boxes (2 on each flight) were destroyed or reportedly damaged beyond possible restoration. Guess that is why they are referred to as indestructible. The crash in Pennsylvania did not even cause an explosion. Even if it had, the boxes are designed to withstand twice the maximum heat that can be generated by a jet fuel fire. Why didn't they show us the destroyed boxes?
Do you think the guys who actually found them would talk to anyone? Or are they still alive to discuss what THEY saw with their own eyes? Paper passports of two (2) of the alleged hijackers survived just fine and were supposedly found in the burning ruble of the Pentagon crash, and another three blocks from the WTC.......three blocks. I would bet good money to anyone who thinks he could contrive a way to launch a passport a distance of
three city blocks.
We have been told that seven cell phone calls were made from the planes. Not ONE of the callers described the hijackers as Arabic, Saudi, Muslin, Iranian or anyone from the Middle East.
Barbara Olson, writer, author, investigative reporter, famous commentator, attorney, and wife of the Solicitor General of the United States (Mr. Olson being George W's lawyer who argued before the Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore), did not describe the hijackers to him as being from the middle east. She was trained to be observant and mentally record details, yet there has been no report that she described the hijackers at all. Are we to believe
she didn't describe them, or did she describe them and we just aren't being told? And if we aren't being told, is it because her description doesn't match the profile being fed to us?
And are we to believe the Solicitor General forgot to ask her to DESCRIBE the criminals? I guess we are to accept that this is obviously an insignificant "fact" that the most high-powered-lawyer in the United States would understandably forget to ask.
From almost the moment it happened it was dubbed an ATTACK ON AMERICA. I have videotape referring to it in that manner BEFORE George W made his speech in the Florida elementary school and went prancing across the country. It has NEVER been referred to as an Attack on the United States. In everything the federal government does from a legal perspective - writing and executing laws, prosecution -- everything is the based on an entity known as the United States. But on September 11, 2001 and every day since,
the criminal acts were an Attack on America. Why are we suddenly America, not the United States?
BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms) agents have been walking around all over the ruble for two weeks. Why?
More defense systems were disabled than can even be listed. And the media are NOT talking about THAT.
When OKC was bombed, all we heard for more than a week was Osama Bin Laden, Osama Bin Laden. Then they pinned it on a guy that they said was driving a Ryder rental truck.
They arrested McVeigh, according to news reports, 2 hours after the bombing, driving south on Interstate 45 toward Dallas..barefoot, no shirt, plates expired, no driver license, speeding, with a loaded .45 caliber automatic on the front seat. Just exactly what you would expect from someone who had
just blown up an 8 story building with a fertilizer bomb.
From that moment on, they called OKC a terrorist act. Without McVeigh they had no terrorist. We still, to this day, do not know what McVeigh was supposedly trying to influence the civilian population to do, or how he was supposedly trying to influence government policy....
Explain to me how all of the defense systems were disabled? How did four planes, that were not on their computerized flight paths, fly around for more than an hour and a half without alarms going off all over the place? When their altitudes and positions CEASED TO BE VISIBLE ON RADAR, why weren't people (air traffic
controllers) alarmed?
As close as Boston and Dulles are to D.C., why would disappearing planes NOT be a cause for alarm? Why was it more than an hour AFTER the WTC crashes that fighters were scrambled? Was the Air Force sleeping at 7:45 AM on a Tuesday morning when the planes were supposedly hijacked, and deviated from their designated flight paths?
Are we supposed to believe that when a transponder is turned OFF that no one is alerted that the plane is no longer being tracked by altitude; and that such a thing could occur to four planes almost simultaneously in the same geographical region, dangerously close to the seat of government, and NO ONE was alerting the media, the defense department, or anyone?
Am I supposed to believe that no one even had a clue for an hour and a half from the time the first plane left its flight plan until smoke started coming out of a WTC tower? And when the first plane hit the tower, no one knew that three other planes were missing, and thought it prudent to call the media or government officials and tell them that three other planes were missing and that other locations might not be safe?
I have talked to three pilots who have told me in their own words and understandings that what we are being told happened, could NOT possibly have happened.
What I DO KNOW is that we are not hearing much TRUTH. And 110 story buildings do NOT collapse because a plane hits them. The second plane nearly missed the building, only going through the corner. Most of the fuel burned in an outside explosion. It collasped first, long before the tower that the plane completely entered. The refined Kerosene (a/k/a jet fuel) burned up fairly quickly. The stuff burning from that point on was desks, paper, plastics, carpet, etc. That fuel did not generate 2000-degree heat that would compromise 6 tubular steel columns in the center of the building designed SPECIFICALLY to keep the building from collapsing if hit by a Boeing 707 that, because it was older and less efficient, carried MORE fuel that the 757 and 767 that hit the towers. The structural engineer who designed the WTC Towers explained how the towers were designed to withstand a hit by a commercial jet -- and he did explain this to an international
coalition on Terrorism in Frankfurt, Germany on Wednesday before the event.
And 53 minutes after Tower 2 was hit the tower just imploded because it was on fire? Yeah right! I discussed this with a structural engineer who investigated a HOTEL in Los Angeles that he said was 30 stories and it burned from the ground floor up. It burned for nearly a week. The fire totally destroyed everything on all 30 floors. The estimated temperatures
were 2200 degrees because of the natural gas and other fuel that was the catalyst for the fire.
The concrete and infrastructure did not budge. It cost more than a million dollars to TEAR IT DOWN. The 30 floors above the first floor did NOT cave in on the first floor when the support structure go hot. And he reviewed the architecture on the WTC and said the type of steel and the type of construction for the WTC was double the strength of the LA hotel.
Just like in OKC, people reported hearing multiple EXPLOSIONS before the WTC collapsed. I have video of people who were interviewed after the collapses and they said they heard a series of explosions (not floors collapsing) and then the buildings came down. The media dismissed it as exploding main gas lines. Gas mains on the 104th floor? Yeah right!
We know that there would NOT be any safety mechanism in place that would have shut off gas flow throughout the buildings in the case of fire -- 53 minutes after a plane hit the building. Guess it was a big gas valve and it could not be vented to the outside air after it was shut off. If that is true, I have better safety measures in my own house than the WTC had.
And why would they need safety mechanisms in place? It isn't like anyone has ever tried to blow up those same two towers before.
The strength of the WTC towers was in the 6 Tubular Steel Columns in the CENTER of the buildings, not the steel structure on the outside like most construction. The buildings were literally, according to the builder, designed NOT to pancake in the event of a Boeing 707 crashing into them. But they collapsed. It took 53 minutes for Tower 2 and 88 minutes for Tower 1 -- to simply COLLAPSE. Excerpts of his speech in Germany were posted to
the internet five days before the planes hit the towers.
My take? Americans are not very bright. Americans don't think. They accept what they are told. They don't TEST what they are told. They are lazy, and naive to the point of being undeserving of liberty. And for that reason they will sacrifice liberty for what they perceive to be security. That is exactly, in fact, the genesis for the federal government.
The States gave up their RIGHTS in exchange for perceived security. And as long as the talking-heads can convince the general public that the federal government can PROTECT THEM, the sheople will patriotically give up every right they have if it makes them feel safe -- while singing GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Copyright October 2001
Lawrence Stephen Maxwell
Permission granted to reproduce and distribute
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Difficult to speak your doubts about truth
07.11.2001 10:25
always. -Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (1869-1948)
Homer
dubious circumstances
07.11.2001 11:42
747 never made it to the surface even though they were only in a hundred feet of water, the beepers were picked up and traced to the exact spot within hours of the plane coming down. Although at the same yankee military were able to steal a whole intact russian aircraft which was parked a couple of miles down on the ocean floor.
The corporate media has given the exact schedule of what happened behind the scenes on 9.11 a wide berth.
except to use the images of the planes hitting their targets for regular sheep dog trials / propaganda ...
It's hard to believe that the U.S government had no contingency plans in the event of a suicide hijack.
They must have known that it was odds on to happen sometime.
yet it seems rather than a special plan there was either a gigantic cock up or a near perfect mission. I would go for the second option. Even though the fourth plane never made it's target. if it was a military op' the fourth plane would have been on stand by, just in case the others didn't make their targets, having seen the devastion on TV the boss debates what to do and finally decides that plane 4 is not needed but obviously could not land so it was shot down.
One question that i have asked before is: did anyone of note die in this attack, not meaning that the ordinary people are not important, as far as I know no big nobs died.
Bush continues to make unsubstantiated accusations against Bin liner and his band of merry men, he reckons that "The Cave" is upto Nuclear spec and bin liner is about to start nuking all an sundry. If Bush told us that bin Laden was on the moon and about to start launching bombading earth with the Bin Evildoers Cheese flans laced with arsenic the fucking toss pots of the worlds media would repeat the story
word for word like the cloned veg that they are .....
this situation is beyond belief bush must be one of the dumbest critters on the planet certainly no where near as intelligent as a Welsh Collie but the sheeple are prepared to follow BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAA
let's have more on the this......
Luther blissett
For all the conspiracy theorists
08.11.2001 01:14
Where you will find a link to an analysis of the WTC collapse by an experienced structural engineer who actually puts his data and conclusions in print, along with his name, unlike the purported engineer whose second-hand assertions are referred to above.
Incidentally, this article, which is rich in detail about the design of the towers, directly gives the lie to the poster's contention that the strength of the towers was in the core and not the exterior columns.
It's a long .pdf file with a lot of diagrams and photos, so it takes a frustratingly long time to download, but it's worth reading.
And then, it might be worth doing some looking into the amount and nature of the preparatory work required to demolish smaller buildings by controlled implosion with explosives, and asking how that could have been carried out in an occupied, active office building.
It's not like you see in the spy movies.
Mulberry Sellers
4 all the doubting toms
08.11.2001 10:43
But what about the supposedly indestructable black boxes being complete destroyed. while the passport of one of the
suspected hijackers turned up in good nick ??
what is the latest on this , is there an official version ?
I mean plane crashes normally consist of high flying object
hitting the ground at high speed and exploding, the fact that these planes were deliberately flown into their targets doesn't change the chemistry, who was actually flying them
might do though .
LB
Luther blissett
conspiracy theorists
09.11.2001 00:09
dwight heet