Yeah, the BBC have been consistently towing the govt line and keep stressing that accounts of civillian casualties are un-checkable in way that suggests they don't believe its true. They've also stopped showing footage of bin laden as his phrases like 'muslims in the west should stay away from tall buildings and aircraft' might be coded warnings. The only good knowledgable reporting on the bbc comes from john simpson-who puts all the bimbos and himbos to shame.

If it's in the media, it's part of their "problem, reaction, solution" operation. They only promote their own agenda. Eg. the anthrax scare is being targetted at the P.O. because they want to eradicate all paper mail and money, with only electronic mail (which can be tapped) in a cashless society with ID cards. Don't be surprised if dollar bills are found with traces of anthrax spores. But soon the ID cards will be found inadequate, it won't stop terrorists, so the solution will be a microchipped population.

After the Falklands War, during which the news was reduced to artists impressions of smiling commandos bouncing laughing Falklands children on their knees, there was a debate at BAFTA during which the heads of ITN and BBC news made it quite clear that they believed that it would be wrong to show images that might cause a loss of support for the war. A totally sycophantic audience applauded this view with the notable exception of an ITN cameraman who had been there. There is no conspiracy, on the contrary the shits are quite blatant about their lies.

1) the falklands war was no more just than this one but it was somewhat more clear cut, a country invaded, or reclaimed a territory, which ever way you look at it, and another country declared a war.

here we have an individual from Saudi, who is accused of , (a criminal act)an attack on the U.S which has decided that this is an act of war and therefore declared war on a third party.

the evidence that this individual carried out the attack , is basically heresay.

2) In my opinion the CIA is up to it’s neck in this one.
there is a whole pile of evidence to suggest this, the bush family dealings with Bin laden,
the fact that the CIA have ‘in the past’ funded the afghan resistance groups, the Oil factor, the insider trading, and the list goes on.

The case against Bin laden does not seem to exist but there must be serious doubts about possible CIA involvement or if not a very serious cock up regarding the the 9.11
attacks. Also should bring into question why anything the CIA is given so much credibilty
by the media.

if a group like say CND was to make an appeal, and collect signatures , for an investigation into possible intelligence links with the 9.11 attack , how many people would sign and what effect it would have on ‘the new war order’ ?

If enough people can be shown to have doubts about the event surely that is a democratic way of showing that there are doubts about what happened and asking for an inquiry is a good way of putting our minds at rest , so to speak ..

It would have a bit more bite than a petition against the war
itself I don't know how the CIA would react..

LB

I tend to agree with you there Luther. We've got to open up peoples's minds to what has happened. The accusations don't make it out there on the mainline media - I can only think of one article - on insider trading in advance off 911 - in the Independent, that has given a hint. I fired off a few questioning letters myself to the broadsheets, as many others must have done, in the full knowledge that they wouldn't hit the page. I suppose that going out with a petition that says 'Do you think that western intelligence services, with the knowledge of Bush and Blair were in some way responsible for the WTC atrocity - if so sign here' could lead to some interesting discussions.

The Falklands war was more the result of two megalomaniacs thinking that a war was a good way to get people to vote for them. And I don't think there ever was a declaration of war. Some people at the time reckoned that Thatcher knew Galtieri was going to invade and let it happen so that she could have her war. So actually it was quite similar to what's going on now. And the really scarey thing is that everybody DID vote for the bitch.