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Ferganoid | 15.09.2001 09:44

Abuse in the west of vulnerable people is an issue witch is unrepesented by social political groups.

Organizations sutch as Social Services and the Mental Health Services are not run for the benefit of the people they are supossed to help, they are run for the benefit of the people who work for them. Sutch coruption allows all manner of mistreatment to take place and destroys peoples lives. The victims have no more power to protect themselves, in order to change this the facts must be documentad and made available to the public.

Ferganoid
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why not to 'name and shame;' why to try and

15.09.2001 13:59

"Organizations sutch as Social Services and the Mental Health Services are not run for the benefit of the people they are supossed to help, they are run for the benefit of the people who work for them."

...gotta disagree...in any system there will be problems. these will be compounded by poverty and low status. the nhs and the social services in the united knigdom both suffer from these problems - when viewed in comparison with other government departments. for example, the nhs has been massively underfunded over the past 20 years. and having anything to do with social services is tantamount to admitting that one is not as good as another.

consequently, staff recruitment and retention in both these services is low - and worse in more difficult areas, be that discipline of geography. more examples are the crises in provision of mental health services nationwide, or of social services in inner city areas, which tend to have the most rapid turnover of staff and the greatest number of social problems due to communities being in a state of great flux.


when the staff of support services are treated like shit, of course it becomes neccessary to look after yourself first. If i haven't eaten or slept in 24 hours, do you really expect me to be 100% dedicated to my patient?? I think it is more important to get a hot meal, and sit down for 20 minutes, than to see somebody who is not at immediate risk of dying (although they may be in some discomfort). That way, i am more likely to be prepared when my crash bleep does go off, adn i have to be present to deal with the victim of a road traffic accident or a heart attack.



"Sutch coruption allows all manner of mistreatment to take place and destroys peoples lives. The victims have no more power to protect themselves, in order to change this the facts must be documentad and made available to the public."

i would, perhaps, re-phrase this to say that 'such UNDERFUNDING allows all manner of mistreatment to take place...' IF there were adequate staff, IF they were adequately compensated, mistreatment should never occur - for it is very rarely done maliciously, but more often than not as an act of self-preservation, as i described above. The huge majority of people in mental health, physical health adn social services are there 'out of the goodness of their hearts.' yes, a bit of a cliche, but do you really think they are there for the money?? or the 'power'?

perhaps, social/political groups should bear this in mind. the working classes of the health and social service world have been used as political beating sticks since the development of the welfare state post-WWII - is it not time to 'get them on our side' rather than creating another enemy??




Dr. Alfred Scott
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Well said

15.09.2001 14:48

Nice one, doc.

Burny


Underfunding?

16.09.2001 12:56

I don't see what underfunding has to do with Sexual and Physical abuse. As a child I spent seventeen years in "care" I was nevre put up for adoption though my perants had wished it. Instead I was kept in captivety for other peoples amusment and on tax payers money. But thank you for you'r coments anyway.

Ferganoid
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Zurich Municipal Insurance Commpany

16.09.2001 13:03

And on the subject of tax payers money a lot if of went to these guy's. As I said befor organizations sutch as Social Service do not exist for the benefit of thoughs that need help. O and by the way I never see any middle class reveloutionary's demonstraiting out side these institutions>

Ferganoid
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disintergratin and dismantaling

16.09.2001 22:19

i agree they r run to benefit the people who work for them, the beaurocrats penpushers, the trusts and private consultants who make a tidy profit whilst the general public and the sick and elderly lie dying abandoned on hospital trolleys in filthy corridors and the misery inflicted on the generally poor and workin class defenceless children and adults, in our ppp run institutes.

sorcha


Thank you for your comments.

17.09.2001 09:27

Althouge their is a problem with money, mutch of the money witch is available dosen't go to thoughs that needed it.
but is redirected to exploiters.
Their are many issues that need social political atention because we live in an abusive society, but the plight of vulnerable people is an issue witch needs more exposure.

ferganoid
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